Used DVD Shrink-Now how do I burn ?

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  1. brmtrngl

    brmtrngl Member

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    My biggest question is: I have completed some backups and I can view them perfectly on my computer. But on my standalone dvd players is where the problem lies. I'm using the shrink/decrypter combo, and maybe 3 out of the 10 that I have done have worked on my standalone, but they work fine on my computer. Is this a media problem in the sense that I'm using the wrong media. My standalone runs +r's my burner is a dual format. I got a few -r's just to try and those didn't even start up on my stand alone. The +r's would work fine but them 30 mins in or more the picture and sound start to skip and stall and then just stops all together. Is this a media problem, user error or standalone problem. I'm really starting to get frustrated because I can't figure it out. When running shrink I'm making a full back up, automatic compression, deselecting french, spanish audio and subtitles. Unselecting region free and only selecting region 1. If anyone can give me any help I'd greatly appreciate it. Would love to watch the movies on my standalone especially the one in my kids room wich is the main reason I'm backing up my movies, you know how rough kids can be.
     
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    Sounds like Media but what kind of stand alone are you using. Some don't work as well like Sonys sometimes.

    What media and finally what burner. Sometimes a flash can smoothout the errors.

    That said, it sounds like my bad memorex problem. They would play half way on the average then start breaking up. Riteks and Verbatims and Prodisc have been perfect for me even at 8x burning on my new Nec 2500.
     
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    my standalones are all RCA's I have an I/O magic 8x dvd dual format burner. I am using memorex 4x media I've tried both plus and minus.
     
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    My Sony(s) play most media brands , so it would seem whomever you got that advice from on Sony DVD Players [maybe even your own experience] is flawed... if the back up's were done in the correct way & w/ good blank media you/they should not have had a problem 64026402

    Was you told a good few times already brmtrngl that Ritek G04 or Verbatim were good discs to trust ?? [I ask that w/ sarcasm yes as I know you have been told ... as ScubaPete & I have definitely told in this very thread].
    If you choose to be ignorant to the experience of ppl that have been doing this for a long while then it is your DVD coaster funeral.

    *Unsubscribing from thread*
     
  5. ScubaPete

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    Gentlemen,

    I fear sometimes the point becomes lost because all things are not considered -

    When you purchase an original DVD - the movie has been "Pressed" into the disc / dye therefore everything can read it (it plays everywhere). When you backup a DVD, you’re burning the files on to a surface that may or may not be even and consistent in its application. Sooo, the media and the dyed surface you’re burning are of utmost importance both in the ability of players to read it and of it's expected lifetime of retention.

    Both of these factors are considered when we recommend the media that we do -

    Memorex is made by 4 different mfgrs., do you know who’s making your media tonight ?? Because of the spread of media suppliers the quality, as you might well imagine is all over creation and back -

    Like the Country and Western song goes,
    “When your Hot you’re Hot, and when you’re not, you’re not !”

    cheers,

    Pete
     
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    brmtrngl

    From your last post I would consider the media the problem. Go get some Verbatim or branded Ritek and try again.
    It might be good to flash the firmware on your IO drive. This can sometimes improve the burn quality.( If your not comfortable doing firmware updates then don't do it. The procedure is somewhat risky to the drive.)

    Herbsman
    I didn't mean to say all Sonys were a problem. They do seem to come up more often as a brand that might be picky on the media and book type.

    My freind with a Sony is the only one of my freinds that has trouble with playing DVD-Rs. It will Play +Rs and seems OK with -Rs if burned with DVD-ROM book type.
    I'm sure many other players have similar concerns.
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  7. rick5446

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    Memorex!!!!NOT SO GOOD!!! Use CD Check....You will see BAD SECTOR on a lot of Discs.
    I have a$30.00 A M W DVD player that I bought at Circuit-City it plays anything I put in it even the blemished Discs.But my friends DVD Players Problems (Skipping,Freezeing,Won't play at all,Etc.)
    So I repeat myself GO4's,GO4's,GO4's.I use DVD-R's they seem to be more compatible with a larger range of DVD Players
    P.S tried a bowl of FROSTED FLAKES in My DVD player (Grrreat)
     
  8. C.j.

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    When using DVDShrink, you should also have Nero 6 installed. DVDShrink uses Nero 6 as it's default burner. After DVDShrink is done ripping, it automaticly configures it's self with Nero 6 and starts the burning process. I have no problems at all with DVDShrink. 100% burns...
     
  9. ScubaPete

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    Not true c.j., DVD Shrink also uses DVD Decrypter as a burning engine so by defination, Nero is not DVD Shrink's default burner.


    As I just pointed out, depending on your settings, DVD Shrink can also "configure itself" with DVD Decrypter to start the burning process.

    It's not necessary to purchase anything to backup DVD's. If you had read this thread you would have known that :)

    cheers,

    Pete
     
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    Hey Pete! good to hear from ya, was gone golfing all week-end, just getting back to read the threads. (I don't spend all my time on this PC backing up dvd's). Got a question, I have been using Ritek rw's for all my back-ups. I saw where you said rw doesn't read as well as r on most stand alone players. I have Onkyo (2) and Sony (5) and haven't had any problems so far, but they wouldn't play on my brother's Panasonic (don't they read -r and -rw anyway?). Are you saying I should ALWAYS use r's now, unless I'm experimenting and forget rw? I know that r's are cheaper, but not as cheap as no coasters. Damn it,lol, I just ordered and recieved 100 Ritek rw's, should I send them back? [​IMG]
     
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    I am brand new just got my burner today it came with Roxio dvd cd creator 6 I used my dac-100 and sent parts of video (vhs) to computer a 2 min clip burned it to DVD played great then I used the copier I then backup a copy of motorcycle stunt DVD 40 min long worked great played in DVD player in living room. I found your website and started reading I then downloaded DVD shrink I then saw that you need DVD encrypter but someone else stated that only shink and nero 6 is needed if only those 2 are needed what will encrypter do for me. I have Nero 5.5.9.14 on my computer right now what I understand is that I need to go and get Nero 6. Then delete my Roxio DVD CD creator 6 and I will be in business. Will the Nero 6 let me upload (vhs,laserdisc) and burn to DVD like the Roxio does I have video tapes that I would like to transfer to DVD one last thing can I put a 2 to 2 1/2 hour video tape on one DVD if so what do I use to do that. Sorry if this sounds stupid I have read so many ways to do this it has got me confused just want to find out before I start burning again.
     
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    ive created a few filmsfrom dvd using decryper shrink
    i seem to be getting some lipsync problems usually only a on aprox 10 minutes out of a full dvd as its just for personal use i can deal with this. the last time shrunk it pressed back up and left the house the dvd still mostly came out ok apart from some lip sinc problems(am i repeating myself) so any suggestions lower burn rate or use nero its just so easy with decrypter and ill have to think abit with nero, btw thanks scubapete your advice is spot on like the analogyof decrpypter being the circus strongman and shrink the rapier
     
  13. Halm

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    I'm new here, so I suppose my name will say 'newbie'..*l* However, I've been burning DVD's for a while now, so I'm not a newbie to this. Nor am I looking for advice...just reading the forum.

    It seems to me that 'ScubaPete' is about as arrogant and flip as it gets. I read several reply to 'newbies' that were just asking a question, such as where a guide was located, an he launched into some sort of self-aggrandizing tirade...when all that was necessary was a simple answer or a pointer to the information.

    If I was new at this, came in here and asked a simple question....and received the kind of replies this fool gives out...I'd tell him exactly where to stick his burner, his media, and his advice. And yes, it would be a tight fit...considering his head is occupying so much of his rectal cavity now.

    [bold]Edited by Mod: We do NOT require your services thnx , you may not be a newbie to DVD back up but you certainly are newbie when it comes to courtesy & manners ....BANNED[/bold]!!!

     
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    Halm,
    I guess that you missed the 100's of posts saying thank you to ScubaPete for helping them. You must be a friggin narrow minded liberal. LOLLOL

    BTW, you are a dickhead.


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    Since you don't need help, seems you're just here to hand out sheeeaat. Go somewhere else to peddle your drivel. Pete's been a big help to me and many others in this forum, you have to realize there are guidelines and there's no need to ask when it's been answered a 100 times and you're too lazy to look it up. Talk about self aggrandizing AND tirade, look in the mirror newbie*1*, and while you're at it move out of that glass house.[​IMG]
     
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    *comments directed at wrong person*

    Thanks for the correction Pete.
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    Hi there “BigOrange” Guy, I hope you were in the double digits (lol) -

    I was saying, in general, standalone players don’t care much for RW media, they like the single write stuff. The brand new, super cheapo $29.00 to $39.00 Specials, will play just about anything so you’ll have better luck with them playing RW stuff. Once you’re more comfortable with your burning, you’ll want to use either your -R or +R discs. Until then, don’t be surprised if some players don’t play your stuff. It’s not them, it’s your media :-(

    Cheers,



    Hello iracekx, Glad you stopped by to join our Club,

    There are different recipes, don’t confuse them or mix them up -

    Here’s a list of some -

    ScubaPete’s Basic Cooking Recipes

    1. DVDShrink (ver. 3.1.7) ISO mode + DVD Decrypter ISO write mode (FREE)

    2. DVD Shrink (ver 3.1.7) + Nero (ver 6. OR ver 5.5)

    3. DVD Shrink (ver 3.1.7) + CopyToDVD

    4. AnyDVD or DVD43 + DVD2One + CopyToDVD

    5. AnyDVD or DVD43 + CloneDVD2

    6. AnyDVD or DVD43 + Nero Recode 2

    7. For DVD-5's (FREE)
    DVD Decrypter in the ISO read mode + DVD Decrypter in the ISO write mode

    8. DVD XCopy Xpress (ver. 2.5.1, 3.0 and 3.2.1) + 321 Gone (Pre RF versions)

    9. DVD Xcopy - Original (ver 1.5.0, 1.5.2) - (Pre RF versions)

    ALSO, it doesn’t hurt to makeup your own Recipe booklet,

    Example:

    For Starters - I always create a folder on my Desktop named " All DVD Work" and before ripping my DVD’s I create another sub-folder with the name of the movie I'm backing up. (i.e. “All DVD Work\The last Samurai.”)

    Program burning recipes:

    When using DVD Shrink & Nero - Make sure in DVD Shrink “Edit”, “Preferences”, “I/O File”, tick the box which says “Enable burning with Nero”.Also, in “Backup”, Select Target Device”, Browse until you have your DVD burner. Nero will burn to disc “Automatically”.

    When using DVD Shrink & DVD Decrypter - Make sure in DVD Shrink “Edit”, “Preferences”, “I/O File”, un-tick the box which says “Enable burning with Nero”.Also, in “Backup”, Select Target Device” choose ISO Disc Image and remember to “tick” the box which says, “Launch DVD Decrypter to burn the output image”. DVD Decrypter will burn to disc “Automatically”.

    When using DVD Shrink and Nero to burn an ISO image, Make sure in DVD Shrink “Edit”, “Preferences”, “I/O File”, un-tick the box which says “Enable burning with Nero”.Also, in “Backup”, Select Target Device” choose ISO Disc Image and in “Select target image file” choose your pre-made file to send your ISO file too. Lastly, remember to “Un-tick” the box which says, “Launch DVD Decrypter to burn the output image”.

    When using Nero to burn your ISO image, use Nero StartSmart - “Click” the DVD tab in upper right - then “click” the 5th tab, under DVD tab "Copy and backup” then choose “Burn Image to Disc”. This should open Nero Express. Use this to burn your ISO Image to your blank DVD.


    Keeping the programs separated is very important.


    LASTLY,
    As far as Roxio goes, there are a ton of documented cases of Roxio and Nero not playing well together. Should you begin to encounter problems I suggest that you look in Roxio’s direction. At the very least, go to msconfig and un-check anything that deals with Roxio, you don’t have any good reason to have it on your startup board.

    When you have time, check Nero out for your Video to DVD projects.
    Cheers,




    Thanks for the kind words giraff36,

    You might want to check into Nero Vision, with a little bit of help for your friends here at A/D you might like Nero better - One thing for sure, you’ll never know until you try :p)

    Cheers,




    Halm,

    I don’t remember ever having crossed paths with you so, I’m not sure what I said to you that upset you so much -

    To continue,
    When you have something constructive to add to this thread, please feel free to join right in - but let’s keep it to the topic at hand -

    Otherwise, feel free to continue on reading, we love those who research our threads, it makes our jobs so much easier and produces some of our better members with a truly well rounded knowledge base -

    Meanwhile, cheers,




    GrandpaBW, “Big” Guy,

    Thanks but let’s drop it -

    This particular thread has more than 275 posts to it and contains sooo much valuable information in just a single thread that the Administration has “Posted” it. Put this thread at the head of the Newbie Forum. Almost all of the questions that are regularly asked, and even many asked for the first time and their answers are contained in these growing pages.

    We don’t want this thread removed because of one individual. Everyone is entitled to his or her own opinion and he has voiced his. It’s over -

    Cheers,

    Pete
     
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    I just want to put my 2 cents worth in, RE Dickhead's (Thanks GrandpaBW) post.

    My friend Pete has put many, many long hours here at Afterdawn helping out everyone who is willing to be helped. He is not here to hold anyone's hand and if a person cannot make the effort to read the rules, do a search, or type in a semi-legible fashion, he might just flame them a bit. They usually get the idea pretty quickly and do what Pete has suggested.
    Senior Member is just a title but it does say something about the time and effort a person gives to Afterdawn. Pete has given more than most. Few people know the lengths my friend has traveled and the effort he makes everyday.

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    All I can say is, "Pete I appreciate the help you are giving people like me concerning DVD Burning."
    I not only benefit by posting, I also benefit more by watching.
     
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    I am useing ANYDVD/Shrink and have Shrink set to auto burn with Nero. The folder on the HD containing the shrunken files is DVD_VIDEO.

    Can you change the name of the folder where Shrink sends the video files?

    If so how?

     
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