Used DVD Shrink-Now how do I burn ?

2 ways to get the birdies with one stone. Where it says 'Select folder for tempory files:' you left click the mouse and drag the arrow across the DVD_Video Files, it should turn blue, then type in the new folder name. The other method is to create a new folder and rename it, and then use browse and select it. Of course I am talking about the box when you hit the big Backup button.

Why would you want to use AnyDVD when DVD Shrink has a ripper? That is sort of overkill, Shrink + Nero can do the job alone.

 

Brobear, thanks for information:

I was useing ANYDVD because I had forgotten that Shrink had a ripper in it.

This will save me some time.

Also, I sort of played with the Select a target and just typed in C:/Paycheck and it created the folder for me.

I understand what you are talking about about renaming the folder.

 

You've got it. Typing in the target is the easiest as I noted (the computer does the grunt work). I just put the other method in there for the folks that like to do things the hard way (like putting big square pegs in little round holes).

 

I just burned a DVD Movie file in Shrink/Nero.

Ran DVDinfoPro to check for write errors.

I had 61,936 errors on the very last sectors on the disc. Showed up as red blocks in Info Pro check.

the errors read like this LBS = 0022122oh thru LBA = 0023040fh

What does this mean? Could it be that set the option in Shrink as Custom to compress to a size less than the total disc size?

I have not played the movie all the way to the end to check and see if it will play.

 

http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/83479 - 3 May 2004
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/76071 - 15 March 2004

and here is a site for the DVDinfoPro HTTP://www.dvdrrw.org .

Check these out. Before you do anything check to see if there is a visual or audio problem. Some flaws don't cause viewing problems.

 

DVDinfoPro maps the disc and uses block and sector designations to tell you where the problem is on the grid map it creates. Note the red dots on the grid map. That is what the letters and numbers are for. Being as how you had 61,936 errors I am guessing that the first error is labeled:
1.Error - LBS=0022122oh
and number
61,936.Error - LBA=0023040fh
(if the sequence runs the other way, just swithch the 1 and 61,936). I had a small error in a recording and it made 140 errors. I recorded the same file from the hard drive to another disc and the movie played great. The movie that played good had 254 errors on the outer edge of the disc. The difference was that the 254 errors occurred on the outer edge of the disc. Also, the good recorded movie read an error and wouldn't be run through DVD Shrink, a file error. A disc copy would record it but there is no need as we are dealing with a backup. Also against the law having more than one backup. The program maps from inside out on the disc and the grid map is top to bottom respectively. So an error on the edge may not mess things up unless it goes too far into the disc surface.

ScubaPete, I believe, went into a long dissertation on media. There is a lot of bad stuff out there. Note on the bad discs if the problem is consistently on the edges. That would be a good indicator of bad media. That is where the parts are fused together and most manufacturing problems occurr there.

Using the data from those tests can sometimes involve more art than science. One disc can have more errors than another and still show a good movie and the one with fewer errors have problems. DVDinfopro is a good tool if you are consistently having problems. It is time consuming and I wouldn't want to use it all the time for error testing everything. It could be handy if you're making a lot of coasters. As I said before, there is nothing like the visual test. Also, let me add, there are other uses for DVDinfopro than just error testing, for those who aren't familiar with the program.

With the Shrink, here is a hint for you. When saving the extras and changing their compression settings in Custom, leave the movie setting in Automatic. That way you will utilize the full capacity of the disc and decrease the compression of the movie to the maximum of what you increased the compression on the extras. Depending on the size, you can get into an over compression situation. That is what the green indicator bar on top is for. If you are compressing, you want the green bar to stay all the way to the right with 4,464 MB showing. If you get any red coming from right to left, you moved the slider too far on a custom setting. Move the slider until the green goes back to the right. If the entire movie is less than 4.7 G, then there is no need to mess with the custom settings. (I just added the last for the square peg round hole crowd).

To your question. Unless you really messed up the compression it shouldn't have caused a lot of read errors. You would have lost more along the lines of video quality. I think you may be looking more at a media problem or possibly a recording error.

Now you know why I put the threads up for you, as this explanation took a while.

Forgot to mention. You can look at the red dots on the grid to get an idea of about where in the movie the read errors occurred. Remember inside to out and top to bottom. The closer the dots to the bottom the closer the problem is to the end of the movie. In case you want to hunt the problem without watching the whole movie.

 

Let me first say sorry for another boring and no doubt redundant question.

I am a newbie (imagine that) and have read your post dated above that I am reading that goes on, in a paragraph, to read:

"Now, take just a second and under “Target Device” go to “Select target device” once there, select “ISO Disc Image”. NEXT, IMPORTANT, tick “Launch DVD Decrypter to burn the output image” box. Finally, where it says “Select target image file”, browse till you find your created folder for your backup and click “Save”. That’s it ! Click “OK” and DVD Shrink burns that ISO image to your HD. It then opens DVD Decrypter and has it burn the ISO image to your waiting blank DVD.
Don’t use your PC for anything at all while it’s working. -

I have a few question about that. One, I have only ONE dvd burner, so I can't follow your directions to the tee, and two, I don't understand the remark, Target Device. I closed down the Decryptor as you stated to open shrink, but I can't find the target device. I am attempting to burn a movie that is WELL over 4.6 gig's and using Sony re-write DVD's. I know you mentioned to use the best, so I am assuming that Sony is up there somewhere. I also have Maxell just write dvd's too! I haven't had any luck and someone said to use Nero 6 vs. Roxio, so I removed Roxio 6 and I have the OEM version 6 of Nero. All in all, here is where I am:

I have the 3.2.2 decryptor
Shrink 3.1
Nero 6 (oem) version
I also have I copy DVDs 2 on the computer as another software that I think I will get rid of
hardware is fine, but I am choosing to use an external Maxtor 40 gig hard drive for copy purposes as my HDD has only 4 or so gig available.

With the questions I posed and the programs, disks and hardware that I mentioned, do you see any issues? I have tried every which way to make this work, but the main block seems to me that when I go to burn the new dvd after copying it to the external, there isn't enough space on the new dvd.

Any Help to your guide would be appreciated. Eric

 

TmcCallie,

No worries Tom, I have AnyDVD running all the time (DVD43 too), it doesn't hurt anything, it isn't necessary with DVD Shrink BUT it doesn't hurt anything -

Tom, to save some time, I open the burned DVD with my PowerDVD player and play it for a minute or two until the main feature opens THEN I jump to the middle using the "Run/Time" bar and listen to make sure that the sound is there and then to the end to watch the credits to make sure there is again audio and that the credits are scrolling evenly. If it is playing at the end, I am sure that it won't be "Stuck" anywhere in the middle. That's how I check for errors. 3 minutes tops - and I know the backup is fine ~

Relax, enjoy life and don't work so hard -

Cheers Buddy,

Pete




Yo Hoo there hrdbawl, Welcome to our little Club, glad you stopped in -

Hey Eric, we do what we do with what we have -

Insert your original DVD in your drive when you begin - When Ms. Computer wants a nice, clean, new DVD - she'll ask for one - Then feed it to her - No worries

Again Eric, Ye fret too much, when you are done un-checking audio tracks and Director's remarks that you don't want and you hit "backup" you'll see the "Target Device" on the first page. Do your "Browsing" then ~

Goodness me Eric, THAT'S a major No, No !!!
Let's go into DVD Shrink, "Edit," "Preferences," there you'll see "Target DVD Size." In the first drop-down box, let's choose "Custom" and in the next box let's put in "4300MB." Ooohh, why "O" why did you have me do that ole ScubaPete ? Because Eric,

Sadly Eric, in this case (as in many others) you're not getting good quality because you paid allot more money. Sadly, our Favorite, "Sony, the one and only," has up and bit us in de Butt. They rank in the below average to average. Bad Sony, Bad !! Quality doesn't have to cost us our Eyeteeth - "branded" +R, 4X Verbatim sells for $ .85 to $1.05 per (USD) and Ritek G04's can be purchased at Meritline (Online) starting at around $ .69 ea. (USD). We recommend these because they are consistently good quality. There are better, priced $2. To $5. ea. I don't know about you but THAT is too rich for my blood and the quality isn't all that much better. Go figure, Huh ?

The Gods will bless your children and "Uncle" ScubaPete loves you. (Lol)
As time goes by and, as you hang around here more, you'll see many "Newbies" with Roxio-caused problems and you'll feel glad that you made your decision.

I would like to suggest the following:

Install a DVD-ROM. It is extremely cheap. One of my good friends here at Afterdawn told me he picked one up for about $30.00 (USD) within the last week. Why you ask ? Playing your DVD in your DVD-ROM. It will save your DVD burner. It's easier for your PC to read the disc and it is much easier on your DVD burner. The constant stopping and starting of your burner required to read a disc could cause overheating and may easily lead to the premature wearing out of your DVD R/W drive. Sooo, use your DVD-ROM for reading and your DVD-RW for cooking.

Using a 40GB HD is fine for your DVD Backup work, plenty of room there. I am very concerned about you having only 4 Gig or so on your PC's HD. A PC needs some room to move around. At about 95% your PC will begin crashing. If you can, try to free up a little more room, for safety's sake - I'm sure you don't want to lose valuable information.

Lastly, You have an excellent choice of programs. The settings for DVD Shrink and Nero AND DVD Shrink and DVD Decrypter are located here on this page. A lengthier guide using DVD Shrink and DVD Decrypter is on the first page of this thread at the bottom.

I hope this has been of some help,

Cheers,

Pete

 

I must be doing things all wrong, even tho the results are good. I use dvd decryter to rip the files to hard drive, then shrink to encode and burn them to the blank.??? It works fine. I dont have nero or any other software installed?? Does this make any sense at all?

 

KoolAid7,
You are just adding an extra step by ripping with Decrypter first. I use this method if Shrink can't rip the disc.
Shrink has no burn engine so you must have the
"Launch Decrypter to burn the output stage" box checked and Decrypter is actually doing the burning.
You could just use the Shrink open disc button to start the process and save a bit of time.

 

Hey there KoolAid7,

Not to throw you too far off your feed BUT you may well be shooting yourself inna da Foot-ski ! (Heh,heh)

I guess you haven't bothered to read too much about the thread you're currently in -

Some History: For one reason or another this thread has had almost every regular question and a ton "O" a bit outside the ball field questions. In just this one thread you can find some of the most simplest guides for DVD Decrypter, DVD Shrink, Nero recode2, Nero Basic and like that. Ton's of info about Media, why some are good and some, not. Why price doesn’t play a factor and the size game and recently - DVD’s that may lose your backup or your data in a year or two. Yea, 12 pages, 290 + posts but there’s good stuff here -

In short, the Administration has seen fit to place it at the "Head" of the Newbie Forum" for all this contains ~

Now, to your question, I posted reasons why you might want to change your mind about using DVD Decrypter as a ripper rather than DVD Shrink -

It did take about 2 minutes to find it BUT when I set my mind to it I will prevail (lol)

Page # 10, about the middle of the page - Look for the "ScubaPete" Icon -
And hopefully it may change your mind )

Enjoy, my friend and - Welcome to our little Club -

Pete

 

ok, i know i have FAT32 file system. does that mean i am disadvantaged because i can only make my file sizes 3.99 GB and not being able to TAKE advantaged of a file size about 4.4 GB in having NTFS?

thanks

 

Howdy knobbhead, Welcome to our little Club -

We like people to make up their own mind but with this topic, the choices are simple - Check out the bottom of this comparison -

http://www.ntfs.com/ntfs_vs_fat.htm


To convert over, No sweat ! I have never heard of anyone having, even a single file out of place after a conversation. Time-wise - it takes seconds to upgrade to NTFS file system -

Try using Partition Magic 8, their trial program, it certainly make everything a snap -

http://www.soft32.com/download_151.html

After that, come on back, we have a ton of info to help you with your backups -

Cheers friend,

Pete

 

Great Thread! I have been a lurker here for quite a long time, and finally decided to take the plunge. My first attempt resulted in a coaster [RTFM, E' Ho'a!].. But after setting down and becoming smarter, (Who sez ya can't teach an old sailor new tricks?), I burned 5 different back ups using DVD Shrink and DVD Decrypter. I did not have any problems and they play perfectly on the 3 stand alone commercial DVD players that I have available to me. This thread really laid it out in black and white and no one should ever have a problem doing any standard back up.. Now I'm off to fiqure out how to put 2 smaller files on a single disk... Hmmmmm

This site is nothing short of Awesome, I have always enjoyed the reads and have gained very much from perusing the various different forum's threads. I am an ex-Sperry-Univac Field Engineer and have been in the field since the 60's... I am in awe of what you younger people will have in the future...

 

maheanuu, damn that's hard to spell lookin' at it. Anyway,DVD2one and I ain't so young, feel older.
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maheanuu......

Glad you decided to take the plungs. I am sure that with your background you will be able to contribute a lot to our knowledge.

I am of the old school and learning a lot thanks to the many friends I have made on this forum.

Credits to bigorange, forkndave and Scuba Pete and all the other's that have helped me.

I can never tell you how thankful I am.

By this forum I was able to correct the spyware that was on my computer. Someone answered my thread and steered me to Computer Cop and now I am free of some spyware that Adaware, Search & Destry, and Spy Sweeper could not detect and or remove.

Just can't say enough about AFTER DAWN.

Tom

 

Howdy there maheanuu,

Welcome to our little Club )

You couldn't have picked a better thread to be on. It's 13 pages of packed info with links, tips, guides and more - Reading this from front to back will have you going like a mad man - Although it seems like you're already doing good, Congrats on your burns -

Burn on -

Pete

Here’s a little guide to help you there - I suggest Nero recode for that. Unfortunately, if you have the trial version, it Does not have Nero’s recode2, ya get that puppy when you buy the thing. Nero is a program you’ll use for everything, an excellent buy for $ 50.00.
Using DVD Shrink will cost you your menus but works well -

Here ya go -

Create a file beforehand so that you’ll know where each DVD is - do that for all of the DVD’s you wish to work with.

Here is what I’ve found is the easiest if you don’t mind losing the menus (Little kids generally don’t mind stuff like that). First, rip all your DVD’s to your HD THEN open each one in DVD Shrink (Open File) - go to re-author and move the main movie only to the left-hand side of the page, strip the beginning off till you are at the opening screen and strip the credits off from the end using the start/finish function. THEN compress it to the maximum twice, that’s right twice, running “Deep Analysis” each time.

Do this to all of your DVD’s.

You can also use Nero’s recode2 to accomplish the same thing though you’ll need something like AnyDVD, Region Free DVD OR DVD43 (Free) to rip the original DVD.
When you are finished processing your different DVD’s open recode2, select “Remake a DVD” then choose “DVD Video” at the top left of the page and then choose “Import Title” - use the “Browser button to locate your DVD files in which your movies reside and bring them over. You have only to click and drag your main title over to the left side of the screen and release them under “Content” My disc. Click “Next” then “Burn” and you’re done -

Your second option is to use DVD Shrink and add the files in re-Author then shrink the whole thing then burn to disk with a burning engine (DVD Shrink cannot burn).

And your last option is to use DVD2One in the “Join” mode to hook them all together seamlessly and then burn to disc with Nero (in the Classic mode) OR any other burning engine.

The most you can hope for is 3 DVD-9 movies on a single disc (most Disney DVD’s arte DVD-9’s) - if you decide to do it to smaller DVD’s you can get 4 DVD-5’s on a single disc before your quality goes downhill. Expect new VHS Video quality. You will be amazed at the quality you get all things considered, them that’s tried rave -

Enjoy,

Pete

 

Need Help. I ripped a Soprans disk with shrink, and tried to burn it with dekrypt. My home player does not read it. I tried with nero and OK. Why is this happening. Am I setting dekrypt wrong. I use to burn with Platinum, but, recently, to many problems, after ripping disk, when trying to burn it immediatley after pressing the start button, when blank disk is in, it says burn complete. No burn at all. Do you know what is happening. I know is not the blank disk because I burn with this program and this disk over 200 disks, before having this problem.

 

What is the best video capture card?

I want to convert my some 1500 VHS movies that I have (backed up) to DVD.

I have looked at the computer stores but each clerk tells me something different.

Your advise is appreciated.

I don't want to have to give up an arm and legg, something under 200.00 or less if there is one that will do the job.