Video Playback Pause, Stutter and Breakup

Yep, crap media are here to stay. There are many C-branded discs that are marginal media from A and B brand manufacturers. Many 'recycling' companies buy these reject media at scrap-value and re-sell them. That's how you get super-cheap, unlabelled, 100-pk Taiyo Yuden and Prodisc ID media from bargain shops which turn out to be crap discs. Consumers cannot escape from these crap discs unless they stick to the A-brands. Many, like myself, live with them. Its a cost-quality compromise that one has chosen to make upon purchase and shld not complain about.

 

@ Mort and Ed5150,

I have used the Prodisc and been very happy with them for the most part. If you get the -R white inkjet printable to the hub you will get the MCC manufatured ones ;-) awesome buy if you like using the -R format which I don't mind because all my players and game console's play them perfectly. If you get the silver -R you will end up with CMC Mag not usually good but I didn't have a problem with the 25 I had I still wouldn't recommend them just because of CMC's track record. The +R's white inkjet printable come with media code prodisc, and those tested out even worse then the CMC Mag ones? So if you pick the right Prodisc's (x8 -R White inkjet printable to the hub) you will get a good deal and some quality media..

Cheers

 

bbmayo,

You aren't supposed to tell me that about the prodisc dvd+r hub printables. Guess I better pull some out that are several months old and check to see if they still playback ok. They played perfect right after they were burned and the scans were comparable to my verbatums made by MCC. Hope I don't have to remake all the backups done on this media.

Mort

 

I don't know what to tell you Mort, but mine didn't come out so good on the scans they weren't bad and they still work fine I just wouldn't recommend them compared to the MCC manufatured ones and TY's ;-)

 

I might have gotten lucky. Rescanned a couple and they still appear to be ok. Don't worry, I never recommend prodisc media to anyone they're too much like memorex in regards to you never know what you're getting and too particular as to what burners they will perform well in.

 

WOW!! This thread has certainly generated a considerable amount of dialog with many different opinions and suggestions. However, getting back to my original question "Does anyone have any insight on the technical reasons why playback is only a problem on the standard DVD players?", it seems to me that a bad burn is a bad burn no matter if you play it back on your $5000 PC or a $29 Chinese DVD player that plugs into your TV.

It's my understanding that this issue "could" be a function of the DVD player firmware and I've heard that many of the cheap no name players have firmware that's more forgiving than some of the major brands like Sony and Panasonic. Also, nothing has been said about country codes.

Comments????????

 

DuckByte - The Proper Answer to your question was in Amonds first reply to you:

In layman's terms - The Buffer (Temp Storage) area in PC player programs allow the system to read the material many times (over and over the same area) if errors are found. Each pass over an error area (might) give up a few more bits of data until the system finally reads it all properly and can move on. While all this is taking place, the Buffer is feeding the picture to the player. As long as the Buffer can stay ahead of the player, the picture and sound will be good..

On a standard DVD Player, the buffer is much smaller, or in the case of some players, it doesn't exist. If the player hits a bad block of data, it has no time to re-read the block before it sends the information on to the TV set. The result is that you SEE the error.

It has been my experience that most DVD Players will play scratched up and flawed disks that Computer DVD burners have trouble reading - In other words - the Stand Alone players are usually more forgiving. But, as the old saying goes, not all DVD Players are equal...

Re-Read what Amonds wrote...

- Mike -

 

Amonds wrote . . . "The way to solve your Pause, Stutter and Breakup problem is to invest in another DVD player. Preferably one with a MediaTek solution."

This sounds like great advise. In order to reduce the clutter and number of cables and components, I would prefer to use a DVD-VCR Combo unit with the MediaTek chipset. Does such an animal exist? I tried a few Google searchs with little luck locating any "combo" units. Can anyone recomend a make & model that meets these specs and/or a website where I can place an order?

 

hello out there, something i need to ask you guys since,you were talking about media. ARE YOU SAYING THAT CHEAP MEDIA WILL DEGRADE AFTER A TIME, AFTER BURNING. BECAUSE I HAVE SOME DVDS THAT WOULD NOT PLAY AFTER A TIME CAN THAT BE BECAUSE OF THE LOW QUALITY AND WILL MOST DVDS DEGRADE AFTER TIME

 

Yes grafton, Many of the more experienced members have found this out. Scubapete is one of them. The dye in the el cheapo manufacturers break down quicker.Some of them are breaking down less than 6 months down the road!

 

It is more likely to than good quality media.

Yes, more than likely and no media is guaranteed to last forever but good quality media will not degrade as quickly as poor quality media if ever if properly stored. Use this free proggy to ID your media and let us know who it is made by. http://dvd.identifier.cdfreaks.com/

Mort

 

Someone needs to define "Cheap Media" for those of us who have used just about every brand available with No Problems three or four years after the burns.

While I will agree that some "Garbage" media may not be the best bet, I will NOT AGREE that it won't go the distance (last a long time) or burn properly (error free) if reasonable care is exercised.

Everyone has an opinion about this subject, and I respect all sides of the issue, but a blanket statement that all Cheap Media is BAD, is just flat not true (or fair) to the readers.

- Mike -

 

Just to add to creakys statement, prodisc is one of those cheap medias that you can either get very lucky and get some MCC made media or some real garbage. Regarding prodisc you have better chances with dvd-r of getting some good or acceptable media. I tried some prodisc dvd+r hub printables media code prodisc R03 and although when burned with my litey they were completely unreadable but when burned with my benq they played fine and scanned out almost as good as my verb MCC003's. Since they are not compatable with every burner I never recommend them to anyone. I will always recommend verbatum and taiyo yuden.

Mort

 

i'm trying to burn the movie kung fu hustle heres the problem when it burns i get about a five minute black space before the movie starts using One click ,tried decrypter