VSO CXD 3: Creating Storing Burning Problem

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  1. gbroman

    gbroman Regular member

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    Hi, I an using Convert X to DVD v.3.2.3.81 to convert 2 .avi files to DVD PAL. Both .avi files are in a folder. I used CXD to do the conversion of the folder with both of the .avi files in side it. After the encoding to DVD PAL DVD5 the created CXD folder contained the Audio_TS and Video_TS folders: in the VIDEO_TS folder are these:-

    VIDEO_TS.BUP,
    VIDEO_TS.IFO
    VIDEO_TS.VOB,
    VTS_01_0.BUP,
    VTS_01_0.IFO,
    VTS_01_0.VOB,
    VTS_01_1.VOB,
    VTS_01_2.VOB,
    VTS_01_3.VOB and

    VTS_02_0.BUP,
    VTS_02_0.IFO,
    VTS_02_0.VOB,
    VTS_02_1.VOB

    CXD was waiting for me to enter a blank DVD5-R disc while I checked the outputed DVD PAL by playing it through VLC, WMP 11 or Nero Show Time 4. It was ok, no problems.
    Instead of sending the output to disc I saved it, by that I mean that I canceled the burn process and left the completed conversion in the CXD created folder.
    When I later attempted to use CXD's > Option >" Burn an already converted project" to burn a disc from the saved project, it did so but the transition from one VOB to the following VOB isn't continuous, the picture disappears and then starts up into the next VOB sequence.This also happens when I play the movie from the folder where it is stored.
    This did not happen when CXD was waiting for the go ahead to burn the newly converted project to disc
    My question is : Why is CXD doing this? From a saved project. I believe that I am using CXD correctly.
    It would appear to me that because I am not immediately burning to disc the CXD created DVD VIDEO_TS output , the option to "Burn from an already converted project" is a no-go area.
    I didn't burn to disc at the end of the encoding to DVD process because I had run out of blanks having had 4 bad runs failing part-way through the burn process. Not just from CXD; 2x ImageBurn and 1x DVD Flick were also used.


    Any advice welcome

    Please don't recommend DVD Flick, I have it, have used it and it does the conversion / encoding to PAL DVD5 at 23fps. No good to me.
    DVD FAB 5 Platinum won't address .avi files. ( I have not made an 'Image file', which I presume is a .iso, to try in DVDFab 5)
    ImageBurn failing too.

    I am almost in the process of creating another CXD DVD folder from the .avi's and will send the output straight to DVD disc once the encoding is complete, see if that does the trick. The process to create the 3.06GB VIDEO_TS from a 1.26GB.avi folder takes 2 hours.
    But that is not what my query is about, and I hope that it does not become so.
    Now I will begin the CXD processes and come back here once it is completed. I do not multi-task on computer when I am D-loading, encoding or creating optical media discs.

    Advice on the CXD only please
    Thanks
     
    Last edited: Jan 29, 2009
  2. attar

    attar Senior member

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    What you are describing is normal behavior for a DVD containing two titles with no menu.
    There is a pause between the two on playback.
    To get around that you would have to merge the source files before converting - I don't know if CXD can do that.
    As regards DVD Flick, it does have a feature to have both sources output as one title.

    Regarding the the frame rate in DVD Flick, what you are reporting will be seen if the Video output is set to 'NTSC-Film'.
    Normally it would be set for PAL, giving an output of 25fps or NTSC, giving an output of 29.97 fps.
     
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    attar, thanks for your reply.
    the folder containing the 2 .avi movie clips came that way when I got it. Adding / loading the folder that contained the 2 .avi movie clip files into DVD Flick to do the conversion to DVD PAL, and using the 'Create Menu option' did create in the output a visible menu of the 2 separate titles to choose either one of, which I I could do. I had set the video output to PAL in DVD Flick. That is why I mentioned the 23fps that showed in the GUI. PAL is 25fps.
    I did exactly the same with CXD.
    Also, I have added the .avi's individually to either DVDFlick or CXD, created the DVD PAL output of both files separately and as a two piece. I get the menu to choose from.
    But when I save the output and don't burn to disc immediately after the encoding to DVD PAL, the brief discontinuity from VOB to VOB occurs.
    Further more, though the source file/s are labeled xxxxxx.avi, MediaInfo and AviCodec software checks on them reveals this:-

    AviCodec report::

    Name: ********[DvD.Rip.xvid.mp3]
    V.codec: XVID Mpeg-4
    A.1 codec name: MPEG Layer 3
    Beneath this is the following:

    File:1000MB, Duration:1:37:19, type:AVI, 1 Audio stream/s, quality 50%
    Video: 925MB, 1329kbps, 25.0fps, 512*384[4x3], XVID=XVID Mpeg-4, supported.
    Audio: 74MB, 106kbps, 48000Hz, 2 Ch, 0x55=MPEG Layer 3, supported
    ........... ............. ............

    File:300MB, Duration:0:22:21, type:AVI, 1 Audio stream/s, quality 67%
    Video: 283MB, 1770kbps, 25.0fps, 560*416[4x3], XVID=XVID Mpeg-4, supported.
    Audio: 16.78MB, 104kbps, 48000Hz, 2 Ch, 0x55=MPEG Layer 3, supported
    _________________________________________________________

    Overall bit rate: 1,437Kbps
    Codecs Video: XviD
    Audio codecs: MPEG-1 Audio Layer 3

    AviCodec report on the Video_TS folder created when the .avi is encoded to DVD PAL using DVD Flick.
    This is a report for the 1000MB .avi file, only.

    File name: Video_TS\Video_TS.VOB
    V.codec name: MPEG 2[ SVCD/DVD]
    A.1 codec name: AC3 DVM [0x80]

    AviCodec will address individually each file inside the folder, and all the info is the same as above for each file after that above, just that the file name alters to
    Video_TS\VTS_01_0.VOB through to Video_TS\VTS_01_5.VOB

    clicking through each entry from VTS_01_0.VOB to VTS_01_5.VOB shows:

    VTS_01_0.VOB
    File:302KB (0.00B), Duration:00:00:00, type:MPG, 1 Audio stream/s, quality 61%
    Video: 0.00B, 8000Kbps, 25.0fps, 720*576[4x3], MPG2=MPEG 2 [SVCD/DVD], supported.
    Audio: 0.00B, 128Kbps, 48000Hz, 1 Ch, 0x2000=AC3 DVM [0.80] supported

    VTS_01_1.VOB
    File:1023MB (0.00B), Duration:00:00:00, type:MPG, 1 Audio stream/s, quality 75%
    Video: 0.00B, 5801Kbps, 25.0fps, 750*576[4x3], MPG2=MPEG 2 [SVCD/DVD], supported.
    Audio: 0.00B, 192Kbps, 48000Hz, 2 Ch, 0x2000=AC3 DVM [0.80] supported

    VTS_01_2.VOB and VTS_01_3.VOB have the same information as VTS_01_1.VOB

    VTS_01_4.VOB then shows:changes shown in Bold font
    File:1023MB (998MB), Duration:00:23:17, type:MPG, 1 Audio stream/s, quality 75%
    Video: 0.00B, 5801Kbps, 25.0fps, 720*576[4x3], MPG2=MPEG 2 [SVCD/DVD], supported.
    Audio:31MB, 192Kbps, 48000Hz, 2 Ch, 0x2000=AC3 DVM [0.80] supported

    VTS_01_5 shows:
    File:177MB (172MB), Duration:00:04:02, type:MPG, 1 Audio stream/s, quality 75%
    Video: 167MB, 5801Kbps, 25.0fps, 720*576[4x3], MPG2=MPEG 2 [SVCD/DVD], supported.
    Audio:5.53MB, 192Kbps, 48000Hz, 2 Ch, 0x2000=AC3 DVM [0.80] supported

    Why are there not any times entered in the 'Duration' part of VTS_01_0.VOB through to VTS_01_3.VOB?
    The Duration given for VTS_01_4.VOB is 00:23:17,
    with VTS_01_5.VOB showing 00:04:02.
    00:27:19 in total of a movie that is 01:37:18 in length.
    _______________________________________________________________

    If I direct the VIDEO_TS folder to play in VLC, ( right click folder > choose 'Play in VLC), when VLC opens it shows the "Plasma" menu screen that I created in DVDFlick and displays the name of the Movie and the " Play\Resume and Select Title" options. Click any of them and get no response, apart from what's listed below:-
    The Play position slider is almost at the end of its run and in the Address bar at the bottom of the screen it shows
    VIDEO_TS..........................1.00x............00:02/00:02
    Clicking the 'Next chapter' tab merely has it start again on its 2second run.
    Opening VLC



    Opening VLC and then using " Media > Open Folder > dvd > VIDEO_TS " will open the movie, no Plasma Menu, opens straight away. Flashes on screen Video_TS_BUP, IFO, VTS_01_0.VOB then displays VTS_01_1.VOB which fades out. The time given for this VOB is xx:xx/14:12.
    Slide the Play bar almost to the end and the .VOB play time transition to VTS_01_2.VOB is a cut out for a quarter to half second before the 2nd VOB begins, showing on screen the VOB details which again fades out. Time shown is still xx:xx/14:12.
    And this goes on all the way through until VTS 01_4.VOB which shows time as 1:09:59/1:33:16
    When VTS_01_5.VOB opens it displays on screen play time as 1:33:16/1:37:18

    What a palaver.

    Which returns me to the query why is this happening when I save unburnt files to burn them later. NO matter which encoder program I use.

    I don't know much about the .avi/Xvid/XviD/DivX format but I'd like to mention that when I was trying to conveert a .avi file to DVD a week or so ago I had a hellish time of it. I posted a thread here on the troublesome thing and at the end of the day didn't manage to create a DVD PAL from the .avi. That thread is here:

    http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/741020

    I have today Googled the XVID title and read a lot about it and its different clothes. I remember when I searched XVID before I found a web page that detailed XVID as being a container for movies that a group of rather greedy individuals in the US of A had got together and were selling/renting/showing Movies over the TV airwaves to the
    populace in a 'Pay-per-view' fashion, back in the early 1960's. The major Movie companies didn't like that approach and consequently, no movies were made in the XVID format/codec, whatever.
    XVID is not the same as Xvid, DIVX, DivX or Divx.
    And as for the mention of the XVID Mpeg-4: isn't that mp4? Used for mobile devices such as iPods, PS2, Mobile telephones etc??
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPEG-4

    VLC produces an Error Window that shows the following
    Playback failure:
    DVDRead could not open the disk "C:\Documents and Settings\gza\My Documents\New Folder\dvd\VIDEO_TS/V".
    Your input can't be opened:
    VLC is unable to open the MRL 'dvd://C:\Documents and Settings\gza\My Documents\New Folder\dvd\VIDEO_TS/V'. Check the log for details.
    Playback failure:
    DVDRead could not open the disk "C:\Documents and Settings\gza\My Documents\New Folder\dvd\VIDEO_TS/V".
    Your input can't be opened:
    VLC is unable to open the MRL 'dvd://C:\Documents and Settings\gza\My Documents\New Folder\dvd\VIDEO_TS/V'. Check the log for details.

    Seen different error reports, some saying that an .xml can't be opened.
    Here's the Log created by DVDFlick from the conversion of the .avi to DVD PAL.

    11:26:05 PM: DVD Flick 1.3.0.4 build 726
    11:26:05 PM: Calculating stream sizes...
    11:26:05 PM: Disc space used : 4311535 KB
    11:26:05 PM: Average bitrate : 5851 Kbit/s
    11:26:05 PM: Total duration : 1:37:19 hours
    11:26:05 PM: 1 title(s).
    11:26:05 PM: Using Normal encoding profile.
    11:26:05 PM: PAL target format.
    11:26:05 PM: CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2000+
    11:26:05 PM: Threadcount: 1
    11:26:05 PM: Encoding video...
    11:26:05 PM: Title 0, source 0
    11:26:05 PM: Source : E:\*********.Live.In.Concert.72.(DvD.Rip.xvid.mp3)By.Vicent\Live Cophennage.avi
    11:26:05 PM: Properties : 512x384, Normal (4:3), 25 FPS, mpeg4, 5839 seconds
    11:26:05 PM: Target BitRate : 5851 Kbit\s
    11:26:05 PM: Re-encoding
    11:26:05 PM: -i "E:\***********.Live.In.Concert.72.(DvD.Rip.xvid.mp3)By.Vicent\Live Cophennage.avi" -vcodec mpeg2video -s 720x576 -r 25 -g 12 -bufsize 1835008 -packetsize 2048 -muxrate 10080000 -aspect 4:3 -minrate 5801k -maxrate 5801k -b 5801k -preme 1 -precmp 2 -subcmp 8 -mbcmp 8 -cmp 1 -sws_flags lanczos+accurate_rnd -mbd 2 -sc_threshold -3000 -dc 8 -an -threads 1 -fflags +genpts -strict very -f mpeg2video -shortest -map 0:0 "C:\Documents and Settings\gza\My Documents\New Folder\0.0.m2v"
    1:10:37 AM: Combining video sources...
    1:10:37 AM: Concatenating video...
    1:10:37 AM: Encoding audio...
    1:10:37 AM: Title 0, track 0, source 0 of 0
    1:10:37 AM: Source : E:\***********.Live.In.Concert.72.(DvD.Rip.xvid.mp3)By.Vicent\Live Cophennage.avi
    1:10:37 AM: Properties : 2 channels, 48000 Hz, mp3, 5839 seconds
    1:10:37 AM: Recompressing to 192 Kbit\s with 2 channel(s)
    1:10:37 AM: -i "E:\**************Live.In.Concert.72.(DvD.Rip.xvid.mp3)By.Vicent\Live Cophennage.avi" -i "C:\Documents and Settings\gza\My Documents\New Folder\0.0.m2v" -map 0:1:1:0 -acodec ac3 -ab 192k -ac 2 -ar 48000 -threads 1 -async 0 -shortest "C:\Documents and Settings\gza\My Documents\New Folder\0.0.0.ac3"
    1:16:35 AM: Combining audio sources...
    1:16:35 AM: Concatenating audio...
    1:16:35 AM: Title 0, track 0
    1:16:35 AM: Combining sources...
    1:16:35 AM: Multiplexing audio and video
    1:16:35 AM: Title 0
    1:16:35 AM: -m d -o "C:\Documents and Settings\gza\My Documents\New Folder\title0.mpg" -i "C:\Documents and Settings\gza\My Documents\New Folder\0.0.m2v" -0 "C:\Documents and Settings\gza\My Documents\New Folder\0.0.ac3"
    1:26:55 AM: Cleaning up...
    1:26:58 AM: Adding subtitles...
    1:26:58 AM: Authoring DVD...
    1:26:58 AM: Opening menu template
    1:27:01 AM: Generating menu images
    1:27:04 AM: Generating menu files
    1:27:47 AM: Generating XML file
    1:27:47 AM: Generating author information
    1:27:47 AM: -x "C:\Documents and Settings\gza\My Documents\New Folder\dvdauthor.xml"
    1:35:30 AM: Cleaning up...
    1:35:30 AM: Finalizing...
    1:35:30 AM: Finished.
    _____________________________________________________________________
    I didn't bother including the MediaInfo report, this entire AviCodec has taken me 6 hours to type out and check for typo's. I'm sure to have missed one or more.
    The MediaInfo report is much the same as the AviCodec report.

    Here is the MediaInfo report on the .avi file:
    The MediaInfo report on the .avi file is as follows:-

    Name:**************(DvD.Rip.xvid.mp3)
    Format: AVI
    File size: 1,000MiB
    Duration: 1h 37mn
    Writing application: VirtualDubMod 1.5.4.1 (build 2178/release)
    Writing library: VirtualDubMod 1.5.4.1 (build 2178/release)
    ..............................
    Video
    1,317Kbps, 512*384(4/3), at 25fps, MPEG-4 Visual(XviD)(Streaming Video @ L1)(BVOP/Custom Matrix)
    Format: MPEG-4 Visual
    Format profile: Streaming Video@L1
    Format settings, BVOP.............: Yes
    " " , Qpel.............: No
    " " , GMC..............: No warppoints
    " " , Matrix...........: Custom
    Codec ID..........................: XVID
    Codec ID/Hint.....................: XviD
    Duration:...............1h 37mn
    Bit rate:...............1,317Kbps
    Width:................. 512 pixels
    Height:................ 384 pixels
    Display Aspect Ratio:.. 4/3
    Frame rate:............ 25fps
    Resolution:............ 24bits
    Colorimetry:........... 4:2:0
    Scan type:............. Progressive
    Bits/pixel*frame:...... 0.268
    Stream size:........... 917Mib (92%)
    Writing library:....... XviD 1.1.2 (UTC 2006-11-01)
    ...................
    Audio
    Format:................ MPEG Audio
    Format version:........ Version 1
    Format profile:........ Layer 3
    Codec ID:.............. 55
    Codec ID/Hint:......... MP3
    Duration:.............. 1h 37mn
    Bit rate mode:......... Variable
    Bit rate:.............. 107 Kbps
    Minimum bit rate:...... 128 Kbps
    Channel/s:............. 2 Channels
    Sampling rate:......... 48.00 KHz
    Resolution:............ 16 bits
    Stream size:........... 74.5 MiB (7%)
    Alignment:............. Aligned on interleaves
    Interleave,duration:... 24 ms (0.60 video frame)
    Interleave, preload duration:..563 ms
    Writing library:....... LAME 3.97
    Encoding settings:..... ABR

    I will not give the MediaInfo report from the DVD PAL output.
    __________________________________________________________________
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    Now I'm going to set either DVDFlick or CXD into action encoding to DVD PAL the folder with the 2 .avi/ XVID/ Mpeg-4 files and while that is being done in the 2-3 hours that it takes, I'll head to town and purchase some TDK DVD-R 4.7GB Blanks,s. The unsaved DVD PAL conversion should be showing on screen as done and ready for a blank DVD5 to bed itself into.
    Then I'll see what the score is.
    If I don't get a playable DVD in PAL complete with the Menu option, I'll throw in the towel.
    Still doesn't answer my original query though.


    Why don't I just buy a Stand Alone DVD PLayer that plays all of these 'X' files?? I ask me....

    From what I have seen and read here in the various Forums on the subject of .avi and DivX/Xvid files, I don't think that I am alone with the "Lip-sync" and other converting/encoding problems.
    Why do I like the DVD PAL format? Answer is because I'm familiar with it and know that it will play on any DVD stand alone machine that uses the Region Four PAL coding. Simple as that.
    Yeah, I know that DivX will play on any machine too, if the machine will address DivX/XviD. Some of the newer machines don't see DivX/Xvid.
     
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    The latest CDX3 will merge files and subs also. After you add the first file, right click on it and choose 'Merge more files to this titleset'. You can also add/merge 2 part subs at this time.

    @ gbroman

    Turn off CXD's burning option and let it write the files to your HD. It's always best to test your output anyway. I have associated VIDEO_TS.IFO with NeroShowtime, making it easy to quickly check the output by clicking on it (this will play the entire folder as a DVD). Use Imgburn (free) in 'Build' mode to do your final burn to disc.
     
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    cheers MysticE.
    I'm well late back to get on with the plan and am going to use CXD3 as you suggest, I was almost using CXD3 as you suggest but I had not used the 'Merge more files' facility. I was adding title one and then tile 2, setting the output to "Europe PAL" but I did not have the "Burn result to DVD" box unticked. I do like to view the output before burning it to disc; the output was excellent when played from the 'My DVD' folder, with Menu and continuous flow throughout the playback. Alas, that was not the case when I canceled the burn, thinking that the stored output would behave and burn to disc as it would have done, before it was " not burned at that time, but stored to be later sent to disc".
    I realized that the 'Menu options didn't respond as they did when the encoded to DVD PAL output was freshly completed and waiting to be burned to disc.

    Anyway, I have set CXD3 up as follows and will set it in motion once I have here,finished typing my intentions: modus operandi.

    Open CXD3 > File > Project > New Project
    Add Title 1 (.avi 1) > right click Titleset 1 > click "Merge more files to this Titleset" > click "Add" > click .avi 2

    Settings
    Create Chapters every 05:00 M:S for titleset longer tham 15:00 M:S
    Encoding
    Medium quality--> normal encoding time.
    Target
    DVD-5 (4300MB)
    Conversion priority: Normal
    Audio (en)
    Convert audio to format: Automatic
    Convert DTS to AC3: yes
    Video processing
    De-Interlacing: Automatic
    Video resize: Letterbox
    DVD Specification
    Format: PAL (Europe)
    DVD Resolution: Full D1, 720*576 PAL
    Aspect Ratio: Automatic
    Burning
    Untick "Burn result to DVD" box
    Untick " delete folder after successful burn" box

    That's it. I will submit the result here when it is available.
    I hope that the outcome is favourable, if it is I will burn the output to a Verbatim DVD-R DVD5. Without having saved to burn at a latter date, the output from the conversion of the .avi files to DVD PAL format.
    Once I have an acceptable output stored to disc I will then close CXD3 and check later if the saved output repeats the odd behaviour I mentioned before.
    The version of VSO CXD that I was using 2 years ago did not 'not' produce an acceptable burn to disc of a saved/stored VIDEO_TS folder, but then, I was not using CXD to convert .avi's to DVD PAL.
    I was using CXD to work from Original DVD's, PAL format from step one.
    I'll post back the news.

    Thanks for your help and advice.

    At the end of the day and using the settings I listed above, CXD3 created a most acceptable result: DVD PAL that played well from the VIDEO_TS folder: only thing that isn't there is a menu that lists and allows a choice of either of the two music video clips of which the compilation is made up of.
    I played it through VLC. Attempting to play the movie in Nero by clicking the VIDEO_TS_IFO, wouldn't open the file/movie. Why not I don't know. Had a Patent Warning come up on screen saying that my 'Trial' 30 day use of MPEG-2 Decoder had expired. First time I have seen that in the 15 months Nero 8 Ultra has been installed on computer-no, I actually saw it a couple of days ago. It shows whenever I try to open any file that I wanted to play in the VIDEO_TS folder but it only fails to open .IFO or .BUP files.
    The .IFO files show a MediaInfo icon and right click > Open with -> Hero Show Time is bringing up that Patent warning, opening nothing, and causing the computer to 'Not respond'. Have to use Task Manager to End Nero Show Time. Double clicking the MediaInfo / .IFO file only opens the MediaInfo GUI showing data about the movie.
    I inserted a blank Verbatim DVD-R 4.7GB disc into the Asus DRW 1814BL Multi optic drive, opened ImageBurn > added the VIDEO_TS folder > chose: Mode > Build > Output: Device( the Asus optic drive) > Options: Image options-File system > ISO 9660+UDF (UDF revision: 1.02), in Destination the Asus drive is showing and the 'Verify' box is ticked.
    Click the Green 'Build' tab and the folder is being sent to the blank DVD disc.
    When that is completed the device tray opens, then closes again and from there nothing happens. A message in ImageBurn says "Logical Device not ready" so I wait, assuming that the disc has been taken back into the device so that 'Verification' can take place ( and Finalising of disc?)
    5 minutes later I take the disc out of the drive, see that it shows the 'darker'sign of it having something recorded onto it, replace it into drive and try to open it from My Computer > DVD RAM. The show in the 'F' drive window is blank; Properties shows:
    Type: CD Drive
    File system: RAW
    Used Space / Free space / Capacity: 0 bytes 0 bytes for all three.

    I will attempt to use ImageBurn again tomorrow. Am I meant to be creating and burning an ISO 9660+UDF file to the blank DVD disc??
    Months ago I made an .ISO Image File from a Folder that contained all files from a decrypted Original DVD, burned it to blank DVD disc and it wouldn't play in a stand alone DVD player. So why am now I using the ISO 9660+UDF method?
    Can't I simply send the VIDEO_TS folder with all that is inside of it directly to optical media disc?
    Hell, to the best of my knowledge on the subject-( which is minimal)-when I had 'backed-up' Original DVD's in the past, say with VSO Convert X to DVD (two years back)the created VIDEO_VTS folders were burned to blank disc at the completion of the Decrypting /
    Encoding / Compiling stages and the image on disc of the created back-up was certainly not a 'Disk Image'.iso/.bin/ .DAT or suchlike: it was an image of the Contents of the VIDEO_TS folder's contents: .IFOs, .BUPs, VTSs and .VOBs.
    Obviously, out on a limb here.
    I'm plagued!!
    Tomorrow is another day.
    Until then I'm going to sleep on it. :)
     
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    Go High Quality
     
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    MysticE
    I have only this morning read your advice to use High Quality for the Encoding so I will run CXD3 again with Encoding quality set to High. I will use the same settings for everything else.
    Re: the use of ImageBurn to burn the output to DVD5 disc, I have just checked the ImageBurn Log which is here ;-
    //****************************************\\
    ; ImgBurn Version 2.4.2.0 - Log
    ; Saturday, 31 January 2009, 03:42:33
    ; \\****************************************//
    ;
    ;
    I 03:32:25 ImgBurn Version 2.4.2.0 started!
    I 03:32:25 Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 3)
    I 03:32:25 Total Physical Memory: 785,904 KB - Available: 290,880 KB
    I 03:32:25 Initialising SPTI...
    I 03:32:25 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...
    I 03:32:25 Found 1 DVD±RW/RAM and 1 BD-ROM/HD DVD-ROM!
    I 03:33:37 Operation Started!
    I 03:33:37 Building Image Tree...
    I 03:33:37 Checking Directory Depth...
    I 03:33:37 Calculating Totals...
    I 03:33:37 Preparing Image...
    I 03:33:37 Checking Path Length...
    I 03:33:37 Contents: 10 Files, 3 Folders
    I 03:33:37 Size: 3,299,321,856 bytes
    I 03:33:37 Sectors: 1,610,997
    I 03:33:37 Image Size: 3,299,934,208 bytes
    I 03:33:37 Image Sectors: 1,611,296
    I 03:33:37 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:00
    I 03:36:02 Operation Started!
    I 03:36:02 Corrected conflicting settings for DVD Video disc.
    I 03:36:02 Building Image Tree...
    I 03:36:02 Checking Directory Depth...
    I 03:36:02 Calculating Totals...
    I 03:36:02 Preparing Image...
    I 03:36:02 Checking Path Length...
    I 03:36:02 Contents: 10 Files, 2 Folders
    I 03:36:02 Size: 3,299,321,856 bytes
    I 03:36:02 Sectors: 1,610,997
    I 03:36:02 Image Size: 3,299,934,208 bytes
    I 03:36:02 Image Sectors: 1,611,296
    I 03:36:02 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:00
    I 03:42:32 Close Request Acknowledged
    I 03:42:32 Closing Down...
    I 03:42:33 Shutting down SPTI...
    I 03:42:33 ImgBurn closed!
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    Why the Duration shows as 00:00:00 I don't know. I'd assume that the time to do the burn was zero hr:mn:ss.
    Anyway, the disc I sent the DVD VIDEO_TS folder using ImageBurn > Build Mode as stated, isn't empty, or so ImageBurn informs me when I try to use it again to find what's the score with it. Using Nero DiscSpeed 4 > Disc Info to check the disc reveals Manufacturer, Type, Book type, Blank size etc, but no info as to whether the disc is Blank or not. Switching to Nero DiscSpeed > Disc Quality or Scan Disc doesn't allow the action to be performed as the computer / Nero App becomes 'Not Responding'. The disc is naffed.

    Strange thing is that when I insert the 'blank?' disc into the optic drive, I get the usual pop up window that informs me that " Windows can perform the same action each time you insert a blank CD" ( disc is a DVD but Windows always says its a CD) and from the drop-down options therein, highlighted for use is ImageBurn's 'Buid and Burn', choose to use it and up pops the ImageBurn GUI.
    Mindboggling :)
    Right I'm off to do the re-create from .avi to DVD PAL; will start it in 15minutes. That will take about 2hrs and a bit and I will post back here once it is completed that stage.
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    OK, all that done, High Quality Encoding, excellent DVD PAL output.
    Re-installedan MPEG2 Decoder into computer and the VIDEO_TS.IFO file still not open in Nero, WinAmp or VLC. The VIDEO_TS folder willopen the movie in VLC. Don't get options to open it in WM11 or WinAmp.
    Am going to re-install Nero 8.
    Got clued up from the Help pages on the use of ImgBurn and set the Burn Speed to 2x : advice from following link-

    http://forum.imgburn.com/index.php?showtopic=1779

    and set the burn to ISO 9660+UDF , (UDF Revision 1.02) as advised here

    http://forum.imgburn.com/index.php?showtopic=4249

    All good, sent the VIDEO_TS folder to disc, completed in 20mins, then went to verify.
    Didn't seem to be doing much and after 5+ minutes a info window showed on screen saying that the image I am trying to verify is smaller than the one from where it was taken. That was not a good sign to me-Clicked to 'continue and when I returned to see the state of affairs I was greeted with a window informing me of the following:-

    ImgBurn

    I/O Error!

    Device:[1:0:0] Asus DRW-1814BL 1.13[F:](ATA)
    ScsiStatus 0x02
    Interpretation: Check condition
    CDB: 28 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 00
    Interpretation: Read[10]-Sector 0
    Sense Area: 70 00 03 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 02 00 00 00 00 00
    Interpretation: No Seek

    When viewed in light the DVD media disc shows the sign of data being on the disc, but I see on its surface one thin (1'2mm?) dark ring about 3/4 mm from the inner circle. Not a good sign.

    Nero DiscSpeed > tools won't even scan the disc, the Start tab is greyed out. Well, disc scan did begin one scan, reached the 42MB point and stood still from there. I had seen that 42MB point only two days ago when I checked a batch of freshly burned dvd discs ( 5 attempts to get a result-no go), same point of burn onto disc, it 'misses-fails to read/write to disc and then continues to the end. No mention of a R/W error during the process. Hmmmmmmmmm.........
    I'm getting the same result when I try other DVD media discs that I have created in the past and have been as sweet as until now: getting that Dropdown window about Blank media discs and the ImgBurn 'Build & Burn' option. Click ok and ImgBurn GUI opens and down the bottom of the Gui is notice that 'The disc is not empty'.

    That's it. Looks like I have a problem either with my optical hardware, Drive and/or media discs. Or software.
    I did notice today, somewhere when I was about to burn or create the burn settings, that the DMA Mode for my DVD drive was DMA 2 (33). That's a change, the drive is on 80 pin ribbon, UDMA 5 (100) and has been as good as gold, til 1 to 2 days ago: when I got 5 dud burns one after the other: thought that I had got a 10pack of discs that had slipped past 'Quality Control', as happens.

    Thanks MysticE. I have a handle on the CXD 3 and ImgBurn now. Cheers.

    PCW Pressf1 or MajorGeeks, here I come.............

    Noticed on my return here that there are more threads concerning the DivX/XVID/AVI soup. That's life I guess.....;)
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    PCW Pressf1 sorted this one out for me.
    One chap suggested trying different media (ie DVD-R), I had used both + and - media discs. Both had produced the same apparent fault/s.
    Another senior member suggested that I update the Asus drive's firmware and try a different IDE Cable on the secondary channel (possibly because I had mentioned noting that when I did the last 'Build+Burn' in ImgBurn that the Secondary DMA was showing 2, it was set for UDMA5 previously.The 80 connector IDE cable that was attached was new eight months back, but I had a couple of 'old' spares about the closet and did the exchange. After the Firmware update to v 1.14 from v 1.13, the DMA had increased to DMA4. Have not checked it since rebooting com.
    Three out of the five discs that I mentioned were not opening as they should have and were causing computer to freeze up etc, opened when I tried them just for the hell of it.
    Good news that becauase I have the DVD VIDEO_TS of the music concerts twice now.
    I still have to do it once more to create a DVD from the High Quality Encoding version that was created last night.
    Hopefully when I send it to disc tomorrow, all will go well. Too tired for any of that now.
    Will post the result here when I have it.
    Cheers. :)
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    Sunday, Feb 1st '09. 15:46:00

    Superb result.
    Happy as Larry.
    Now I will figure out how to add more than one file at a time into CXD to convert/encode to DVD PAL, and not merge them so that any one of the compilation can be selected from the Menu to be viewed at will.
    Or to add from a storage place on HDD, 1 0r more already converted to
    VIDEO_TS folders and have them so that any one of them can be chosen to be viewed.
    All good.
    Actually, I think I know how to do that as it was one of the ways that I did the first or second conversion of the 2 .avi files to VIDEO_TS. I simply added the two .avi files to CXD 3 one at a time before I set it off to encode to DVD PAL. Both entries showed in the menu of the CXD output and could be accessed from off the screen of the computer. I began to have the troubles when I tried to burn the CXD output to optical media discs.
    But that seems to be sorted out now.
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    Last edited: Jan 31, 2009

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