Had a tough time with this one What does not work 1) dvd shrink ( fails on analysis) 2) dvd decrypter 3540 (fails on decrypting, about 20 %) 3) dvd fab plat 5110 ( read failure at about 4 %) 4) ripit4me 1710( says file size is 65 Gb, too large to back up, and backed up 65 GB on my HDD) 5) Anydvd 6479 ( fails to read at 97 %) 6) No, I do not have dvdxcopy any longer What works partially (ripped full disc with non functioning menu, just got a list of files) 1) Anydvd 6483 beta What worked !! (Success !!!) dvdfabHD 4120 ( yep, the oldie but goody), full disc and functioning menu ! No I did not do movie only, as I always do full disc, and get menu plus movie via vob blanker I have the 1 disc dvd in the new chinzy paper box !