what is over heating?

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  1. pollution

    pollution Regular member

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    i used speed fan and cant determine what exactly is Remote 1??
    here is a screen shot of speed fan when i run it
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    My system keeps locking up and i think this may be the reason, sometimes i even get the blue screen of death

    Any help would be great
    I have a k8u-939 motherboard and AMD x2 3800+ CPU, dual core
    and a GeForce FX5200 video card
     
  2. philraz

    philraz Regular member

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    my guess is that it is the heat sensor on your cpu check to make sure it is going if it isnt spinning dont use your computer untill its fixed
     
  3. Morph416

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    Remote sensors usually indicate your video card, and 54C sounds about right...though it's a tad warm. Might wanna break out the compressed air cans and chase away the dust bunnies. If it were the proc, the label will say CPU.
     
  4. pollution

    pollution Regular member

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    I changed the video cards heat sink to one with a fan and added artic silver 5 as the thermal contact material and i am still getting the same readings.

    My guess is it is one of the CPU cores because it is a dual core processor.

    Maybe i should apply artic silver 5 to the heat sink and see if this helps?
     
  5. philraz

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    certainly wont hurt make sure that you remove the thermal tape from the bottom of the heat sink it is only designed for a single use and make sure that the fan is spining as one fan is showing as 0 Rpm
     
  6. pollution

    pollution Regular member

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    There is only one(1) Fan. It has dual core inside the same processor.

    Thats what makes me wonder, why would 1 core be so hot and the other cool?

    I thought maybe manufacturer defect, thermal paste not on good, or some type of compatibility issue with the motherboard and CPU.
     
  7. philraz

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    Sorry missread your post thought you were running dual procesors I cant see how the two cores could have a 20c difference the sensor that shows over heating must be either the cpu or another device power unit maybe check your manual it may tell you which sensor is which I would still consider re doing the cpu heatsink and maybe adding a case fan if one is not present
     
  8. The_OGS

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    The x2 CPU will give 1 temp reading.
    If it is not Remote 1 then it's what, Remote 0? (wouldn't be surprised) or is it Remote 2...
    That program is not the best, who knows what the sensors are?
    I have tried MotherboardMonitor and didn't like it either :^(
    Try Everest Home Edition (a wonderful product) or, isn't there some kind of montoring software for you on Gigabyte's webpage?
    There is excellent Asus and ABit software available for those motherboards.
    Anyway that 54C is probably your CPU and if it's at idle, you're in trouble.
    Re/re your CPU cooler and fan. Invest $10 bucks into a sophisticated CPU fan like a Vantec Thermoflow.
    Arctic Silver 5, the best.
    So basically, philraz said it all!
     
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  9. Morph416

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    Fan2 is your first SYSFAN plug. Most people don't have a fan plugged into that. It runs from the motherboard, looks just like the plug for the CPU fan.
     
  10. pollution

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    Thanks to everyone, it is the CPU that is overheating, found out soon after running everest(screen shot at bottom), that is one kick ass program if you know how to use it, I thought from everything that i read that AMD had fixed the problem of their CPU's from running hot, now i will be ordering a vapo chill heat sink

    here is a link to it
    http://epowerhousepc.com/product_info.php?products_id=608

    I know i could probably get off cheaper but i want the best i can get w/o going to a loud fan or water cooled

    I do have one last question
    Should i take the thermal material of the vapo chill and use artic silver 5 instead?

    [​IMG]
     
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    pollution Regular member

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    Most importan question of all

    Should i turn my computer off untill i get it running cooler?

    That is idle speeds that are shown!!!!!
     
  12. philraz

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    I wouldnt
     
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    @philraz, you woldnt turn the computer off till you got it running cooler?

    Just for the info, i took the cpu off and when i did the cpu was stuck to the heat sink!
    I carefully let the artic cleanser break down the old thermal paste/tape that came with the processor around all 4 sides and wiggled gently in each dirrection and then the processor popped off, should of had some padding where i was working.
    Then i had to see if the processor still worked, so i used artic purifier, then i applied artic silver 5, and started up my computer. The temps gave me the same reading so i turned it off.

    is the K8U-939 motherboard i have a K8 socket type?
    i am asking b/c that heat sink i posted above said it was not compatible with Gigabyte K8 sockets.
     
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    With stock cooling, my XP 3000+ used to run between 125F and 135F...never shut it down because of it.
     
  16. pollution

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    @ Morph416, it might be ok to run it with the stock fan at those temps, but since i have spent so much money on the processor i want see lower temps, it is like insurance to me to have a good heat sink.

    Now when i buy processor I will order a after market heat sink at the same time.

    I changed my mind about the vapochill micro, it is to loud, it does not go below 27dba and the extreme performance goes up to ~40dba and high end goes up to ~39dba. Also i read that the vapo chill micro does not fit the Gigabyte socket K8 motherboards. I am not sure what socket mine is, but the zalman is quieter anyways.

    I am going to order a zalman from newegg
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16835118119

    Does not go above 27.5dba at full speed and on silent mode it is at 18dba, had a loud fan on last computer with variable speed control and i find the loud fans annoying.
     
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  17. The_OGS

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    philraz has told you
    All Athlon dual-core CPUs are Socket939!
    Any S939 cooler with a lot of copper in it and a large (120mm) fan should work great.
    Dunno why CPU temp so high - your cooler must suck, maybe small slow fan...?
    Coolers with relatively slow 120mm fans are available; these move a lot of air but are very quiet.
    Pollution did you not 'see' the nice link to your mobo that philraz gave you?
     
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  18. pollution

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    @The_OGS, i saw the link he philraz gave me, and believe me i have looked at that page many times before. Yes my cooler sucks!!! It is AMD stock fan, 2 out of 2 stock fans i bought sucked! but as soon as i install a aftermarket heat sink everything is fine and i can even overclock it.
     
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    I bought a zalman, but not the one i mentioned earlier, it is the latest AMD model, the 9500 model, it was the only one that was completely compatible with my mother board no matter what else was installed as long as my case is wide enough, and from my measurements it is.

    this is what i bought :)
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16835118223
     
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  20. The_OGS

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    That's a sweet cooler - lots of copper, and nice slow 92mm fan :^)
    I can get them for $70 bucks (Canadian).
    You should be good to go!
     

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