What Size 4,718,592,000 bytes , 4472MB, or 4.36GB ?

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  1. stive22

    stive22 Guest

    Ok, I'm probably going to really show my ignorance and someone is going to say they are all the same, but DVD2One version 1.0.2 allows you to put an output file size in the box. My DVD blank media says 4.7 GB but I've read in the threads 4.36GB is the magic ouput number to get from DVD2One. The default in my DVD2One was 4472MB to add another set of numbers. And i read 4,718,592,000 bytes is the number. So, my first question is what is the correct number to put in the dvd2one box that allows maximum use of the disc? Second question, why that number? And finally, why would I not want to use the highest number possible for best video quality? I did not find these answers in any guide or thread that I looked through.
     
  2. jrisch

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    This isn't answering your question about DVD2One, but the number confusion usually comes because a KB is actually 1024 bytes, not a 1000. Similarly an MB is 1024 x 1024 bytes, and a GB is 1024 x 1024 x 1024, which is actually 1,073,741,824 bytes. However the DVD industry has preferred to redefine GB as 1,000,000,000 so their products seem to hold more data than they actually do.

    Oh and remember that you have filing systems etc. taking some of the disk real estate.
     
  3. stive22

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    That helps. It looks like then the DVD2One 4472MB / 1024bytes = 4.36GB, which, I've read seems to be the limit to write on a DVD -R/W. The disk says 4.7GB, but that may be partially due to the overstating "selling" gimmick you mentioned.
     
  4. herbsman

    herbsman Moderator Staff Member

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    set DVD2One to 4272 - 100% success for me so far (30+ using DVD2One 1.02)

     
  5. jzaman

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    I leave it at the 4472 default religiously. Never had to change it. The new version 1.1.1 may go oversized in Full Disk mode but a second pass (7-10 minutes) corrects it. I use Imgtools 1.002 (with Nero API 5.5.10.15) and it won't burn if it is oversized and when it burns it plays on every standalone player I've thrown it on. If one is concerned about pixelation on very large movies then Movie Only mode will give you a cleaner product.

    P.S. Setup: Windows xp pro sp1 NTFS, DVR105, and Ritek 4x media.
     
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  6. fatboysyt

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    Hi i tried copying XXX last night in full screen mode, but it made the size of the files 4499mb and was just a bit too big to fit onto the dvd.

    What can i use or do to squeeze it back into a smaller size so ?

    tried to burn it with nero

    dvddecryptor,dvd2one then nero

    Thanks
     
  7. Wizkid

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    Run the outcome files again through DVD2one or run the ripped files again through DVD2one with the setting 4400Mb.
     
  8. herbsman

    herbsman Moderator Staff Member

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    once again , set it to 4272

    never had a problem with dvd2one personally.

    herbs !: )-~
     
  9. Krush019

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    Hmm. I've done about 25 dvd's with DVD2ONE set to 4480 and never had a problem. I use ifoedit to strip down, dru500ax to burn, and meritline generic branded media.
     
  10. fatboysyt

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    Thanks lads that worked perfectly set it to 4400mb and it worked a treat just ran it threw dvd20ne for a second time with the new setting and worked a treat the quality is amazing

    what would we do without it some one give the developers a raise :->
     
  11. phuocle

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    I've personally burned over 150 DVD movies on my Sony DRU-500A primarily using Ritek's DVD+R media (no coasters yet in over 150 discs) and a few DVD-R media. I've left the default size at 4472 and never had a problem.

    When I decided later on to include the JACKET_P folder because my Sony DVD play supported it, I needed to reduce the output size down to 4460.

    But like I said, that was by choice. No problems using all of the versions of DVD2One so far and I primarily do Movie Only since I want the best quality possible. I've only done 1 set of Full Disc for Sex and the City Season 1.

    My system:

    Athlon 1.4 Ghz
    768 MB RAM
    ATA100 IDE 40GB Drive
    ATA100 IDE 80GB Drive
    Toshiba 16X DVD-ROM for ripping
    Sony DRU-500A for burning
    Nero latest version
    Windows 2000 Professional

    Approximate times:
    Ripping: 10 - 40 minutes - more like 10 minutes if no CSS (porn); 25-40 minutes CSS protected movies
    Transcoding: 8 - 20 minutes - depends on what else I'm doing with the system at the time and length of movie
    Burning: 23.5 minutes for a full 4.36GB
     
  12. groove

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    what is JACKET_P folder for ???
     
  13. phuocle

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    To groove:

    Some of the newer DVD's contains a JACKET_P folder in addition to the traditional AUDIO_TS and VIDEO_TS. The JACKET_P folder contains the "Jacket" picture or cover art of that particular DVD.

    Some of the newer DVD players can read this folder and will display the cover art when you're on PAUSE or STOP instead of whatever the normal DVD player screen is. So far, I know only of Sony Players that can display this. If you want to see what it looks like, get your hands on a copy of Spiderman and bring it down to your local Good Guys, Circuit City, Best Buy, etc. and play it on a Sony player.
     
  14. herbsman

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    I have a Sony DVP-NS305 and can confirm this!
     
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