What temps are you getting with your HD4890?

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  1. gera229

    gera229 Regular member

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    I know this is a pretty old card already, but I'm wondering what you are getting for Idle and Load temps if you have this card. Both GPU temp and VDDC/MVddc temp.

    64C idle
    75-80C game load GPU temp
    88-90C game load MVDDC temp

    85C Furmark lowest resolution windowed.
    110C VDDC temp Furmark

    Say these are stock settings. Is MVDDC too high? How much is it supposed to be? Does it affect performance or only life span of the card or both?
    Are my temps normal?

    Does overclocking it with stock voltage increase temps?
     
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    Overclocking may increase temperatures somewhat.

    64C idle - typical values are 61-65
    75-80C game load - typical values are 78-86
    88-90C game VDDC - typical values are 90-105

    85C furmark - typical values are 85-97
    110C VDDC furmark - typical values are 105-115

    Is all fine here.
     
  3. gera229

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    Ok thanks sam. My brother built his own PC about a few months ago. Now his monitor works, his PC is on, but the screen is blank and there is nothing on it. It just happened. What may the problem be?
     
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    What happened after he rebooted his PC? Is it actually booting? (You can usually tell by listening for hard drive activity). If it's booting into windows but no signal either the graphics card, the monitor cable, or the monitor itself is faulty.

    If it's not booting it could be all sorts of things.
     
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    The monitor is working on a different computer. Cable im not sure if there is anything wrong, but it is connected correctly. So i'm assuming it's the graphics. Can it be as well be the motherboard?
     
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    Does the other PC have a graphics card? You could try swapping cards...this will give you a good idea if the issue is with the card itself or with something else.
     
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    Thanks for the advise. I will try to swap cards.

    Tested, worked with swapped graphics card. Took it out and put the original graphics card back in and for some reason it started working. I am concerned why that happened or why it didn't work earlier.
     
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    The slots can cause issues sometimes...the traces are so small that a large piece of dust can be enough to cause a problem.
     
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    I have a problem with my pc.

    q9550
    ud3r gigabyte mobo
    hd4890
    4gb g skill ram 800 mhz

    My pc was long stable since the last time it froze. Now all of the sudden after playing a game: combat arms, it freezes and makes a repeating sound through the speakers and nothing but a hard reset will solve it.

    Is this a hardware problem? What hardware and what may it be?
    Or is it Ram comptibility(I hear g skill is 99% compatible)?]
    Or is it a software problem?
    Or what problem is it?
     
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    Could be any of the above. RAM incompatibility is very unlikely since it worked up until now. Check the windows error logs and see if they mention anything that might hint at it being a software issue.
     
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    Can it be a CPU issue?
    Where can I check the error logs?
     
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    Very unlikely unless it's overclocked.
    Error logs are in computer management.
     
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    In the application section this is all I found:

    "Faulting application name: Engine.exe, version: 0.0.0.0, time stamp:
    Faulting module name: cshell.dll, version: 0.0.0.0, time stamp:
    Exception code:
    Fault offset:
    Faulting process id:
    Faulting application start time:
    Faulting application path: D:\Program Files\Combat Arms\Engine.exe
    Faulting module path: D:\Program Files\Combat Arms\Game\cshell.dll
    Report Id:}

    Looking at 11/6/10
    I erased the code, offset, id, etc maybe it may me something to keep private.
    This is where I found an error, not sure if this could have caused the freeze.

    In the system section I see source: avgntflt showed a lot of warnings between the time 2:30 and 4:00.

    There were other errors, too many to list so I think I chose the most acceptable ones.

    Also I see in the system section it says critical: Source Kernel Power
    "The system has rebooted without cleanly shutting down first. This error could be caused if the system stopped responding, crashed, or lost power unexpectedly."

    And error:
    "The previous system shutdown at 9:45:55 PM on ‎11/‎6/‎2010 was unexpected."

    Sorry, it's difficult to organize this here.
     
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    AVG warnings? Sounds like a virus to me.
     
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    But except those AVG warnings were earlier in the day like 2-4pm. It froze when I was playing the game around 7-10pm. What I don't get is that I can't seem to find any game errors other than 11:53AM for application. For system restart warnings I can find 9:47pm.

    Does it say what it was? Is it just a log to tell you what happened? Because I can't seem to find any same time of application errors during the time I reset the PC (other than that hard reset error).

    Another question is can it be a bios problem? Maybe I need to update my bios?
     
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    I will keep examining if this happens. But so far I think it might have been a disk error. My hard drive is partitioned. So I scanned D: with right click->properties->tools tab-> disk checking and it found some errors and repaired them. I will see if this fixed my problem. Also will virus scan the system using AVIRA free version.
     
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    Sometimes memory needs more power than the mainboard will deliver by default (on about 90% of boards I try). If you don't manually set the voltage, the system works fine for 3-18 months, and then starts having random errors until you fix the ram voltage.

    This sounds like it might be viral...I would try MalWareBytes free version, just to be sure that it is clean.
     
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    @KillerBug: So if I change the voltage is it going to change the motherboard voltage produced for the ram or the ram voltage (setting it higher or lower). Or are they both the same thing?



    I encountered an error not related to any voltage settings or this topic, but do not think I need to start another thread for this. Here's the problem:
    Windows update installed(It was like a graphics windows update even though all my graphics drivers were up to date) then I restart the computer and the OS and desktop loads. 5-10 seconds later a blue or black screen appears with no words on it.
    Is this a hardware or software issue? System restore did not seem to fix the issue.
    Had to do a windows clean/ repair install to repair it. I'm mostly concerned about why it happened from windows update.

    After a clean install the update is still in the windows updates place, but I do not want to click on the update again to not mess it up again. Graphics drivers are up to date.
     
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    You cannot change the voltage that memory requires to run. Adjusting memory voltage in the BIOS is adjusting the voltage the motherboard sends to the memory.

    As for the coloured screen, check if the windows update was actually a graphics driver update. If not, just check to see which updates were installed recently, then google their KB numbers and see if any have any bugs.
     
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    Ok I do not think I need a voltage change since I have yet to get the frozen screen again.

    As for the updates, after I reinstalled windows it was there, but then after installing all updates but the graphics and motherboard, they disappeared from the list so I could not find KB numbers. I guess as long as I have drivers I will be fine.

    I have another question though about hard drives.
    Based on how hard drives work, magnet and arm, and assuming I only have 1 hard drive in my computer, is it safe to copy more than 1 file from one partition to another of the same hard drive?
    Does a hard drive slow down the more you use it? Or does this not apply to magnet and arm hard drives (hard disk drives)?
     
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