Who writes the firmware?

Hey all,
Just wondering who writes the firmware for the boxes, more specifically the starview. Do we know if anyone is currently working on the starview 4 firmware to bring the most recent channel losses back on line. Any of them working on to see if its possible by firmware to get all missing channels.

Is it companies that write it or some people doing it as a hobby?

 

Manufacturers have people that do that but i dont think it will be any time soon you will see a fix as its been 8 weeks and counting so things are looking pretty bleak now

and not even the LINUX boxes that where supposed to have a fix this week has been fixed either even after a newsletter from one of the top linux sites saying it would be but hay we have been listening to that from them for the past 8 weeks as well and these where supposed to be the best boxes on the market and would not go down LOL

I think people should wake up now and only support boxes that are supported and leave the rest behind

as you can see now the Kryptview is the best supported box on the market now been the first to have a fix out for both the Uk and Irish market now on 3 occasions

 

cheers for the reply fergus, yeah i dont disagree with you with the kryptview boxes. her indoors wont let me get one just yet, have a starview 2 upstairs and SV4 was downstairs with another SV2 in the shed they has now been brought back in to replace the SV4!

Was always curious to know was it the hacker basement based techie that worked it for themselves or starview, eurovox ect employed indivisuals

 

a bit of both thats the way it works yes its a pity about the Sv usb as it was a good box i have to say ah well we must move on with the times and the technology

 

agreed, its a shame about the starview 4, unless it gos over to the uk its a nice paperweaight at the mo.

Do we even know if starview ect are working on the frmware, or if they crack it, bring out new hardware to go with it so increase profits. Something it seems Kryptview didnt do and they are rearing the rewards for it now and rightly so.

 

to my knowledge they are working on it but the encryption have them bogged down same with eurovox

so i would not be to hopeful for a fix in the short term and prob by the time they do something else will prop have changed and it will be back to the drawing board again

 

My personal opinion on this is, EV and the rest could easily come up with a fix. I think they know something that the rest of us dont know. I think they have their next move mapped out and dont want to do anything at this time to jeopardize that. They are looking at the bigger picture, ie, the UK. The irish market to them is known existent when compared to UK. Couple of hundred thousand boxes here at most, UK however, MILLIONS maybe. Thats just my opinion.

 

Couldnt agree with you more, there would be very little resources going into our little Irish problem. Its only when the UK gets affected that we would see a much more consistent effort from the programmers to resolve the issue. Yes there is money to be made, but with N3 on the horizon why bother paying programmers/wasting resources to fix an issue which will be non existant once the N3 move is made.

Fergusb, christ almighty what is your prejudice against the Linux boxes? Were you bullyed by one at school? Yes we all acknowledge they are behind at the moment, and the Kryptview is currently the only one fully working....but like everyone who used to say the Linux boxes are the be all and end all, that really used to annoy you I take it? Well my friend you have become the thing you hate the most, your coming across as a little child saying na na na na na my box works yours doesnt! Someone said here before you also come across as a real "bloke down the pub" type, and you really do. Your saying a fix isnt likely because 8 weeks have passed? Did it ever occur to you that most box manufacturers WANT the Uk to continue down the Nagra road, as opposed to going IP Based or true VOD?? For all you know the major Uk companys are watching Irelands problem closely at the moment, and should another Nag encryption fall, they mau just take the IP road. Then again should the Nag continue to work, and they opt to go down the road that UPC Ireland has done. And only after thats inplemented will the fixes be released, as it would be too late in the short term to change systems again. Maybe Nag is something which programmers CAN work with, whereas IP/VOD would spell the end for free tv as people know it.

Just think about things before coming across so childish my friend

 

i do think i am intitled to my oponion on any box and if i hate the linux box with a passion so be it that is for me to decide and you and and any one else that comes on here can say as they feel just like i can one thing i will say for a linux box manufacturer to say a cable box is a pile of poo against the linux box well that got up my nose and as you can see who is trailing behind now and its not the cable box and its nothing to do with the Uk Irish thing either i will tell you that much

And on another note there is a child inside us all just waiting to get out maybe you should let yours out sometime

I speak my mind and dont hold things back and maybe that is something people cant handle what i say to that is TUFF TITTY get over it

 

"its nothing to do with the Uk Irish thing either i will tell you that much" - source??

Im simply saying your a hypocite (typo). Your slagging off the linux boxes because they said they were a better box. Now your the one saying Kyptview is a better box. Im not biased at all, I acknowledge Krytview seems to have better SUPPORT, but that said the boxes essentially do the same thing.

 

you seem to know it all so if you dont know im hardly going to inform you now am i

 

No fergusb, if you read my post correctly, you'll see I said maybe thats one reason. But your the one with the facts here going by your last post, so enlighten us my friend...

 

blimey thats the second fight i missed lol,i would have liked a linux fix 2 but my other option is to change second tuner to sat so box would not be useless,and sky offer hd.i can see both points of view or half view lol people want channels not blank screens,so three choices,wait for fix coming ??? ,go for a working box krypt or sign up for digital package n*l/s*y ur choice.

 

Cactikid, thats about it - they are the simple choices we have at the moment. Lets just see what way things go...

 

Linux boxes have more potential, as for the Kryptview - I'd say they dumped a Rev A05 card when they were creating their boxes and this is how they are still going. Any N2 boxes used in the last 7 months or so will now be using Rev A07, hence why maybe none of the other boxes are up and running.

Once N3 is fully implemented Kryptview will be in the same situation as all the other boxes.
I, personally, think that it would not be a wise investment at this stage to buy a Kryptview due to them potentially becoming door stops shortly - but I do hope for the people who have bought them's sake that I am proven wrong

Like fergusrb said, we are entitled to our opinions and freedom of speech, but why I believe he has hatred of linux boxes instilled in him is because he was shot down on a certain forum belonging to one of these boxes, for continuously promoting Kryptview boxes.

 

a certain forum has the same information the krypt has but unfortunately they dont know how to implement it at the moment hence there is no fix for the linux ones

And me been shot down on another forum has nothing to do with it as all i was doing was reminding a certain forum owner of his comments over the past thats all

and because he could not take the ribbing well lest say my account was deleted what does that say

THE TRUTH HURTS its hard for them to eat there own words thats the problem especially when its there box that has been left behind the be end of all boxes

and as for when N3 happens anyone that has bought a box now been it 8 weeks since they have gone off have well got there moneys worth out of it now and god only knows when that N3 will happen yes could be tomorrow or next week or even next year who knows but everyone knows we all take chances and im glad i choose the right one and feel sorry for all the people that where led to belive that the linux way was the right way as they are now looking at blank screen on most channels

its funny how many newbies come out of the woodwork when you start talking about the linux boxes they are never seen at any other time maybe spend to much time on the other forum

 

that forum has blank screen as well lol

 

Yes mate i am well aware of that as well that's why they are all over here now maybe the firmware did not work on there either

 

Fergusb - so your account was deleted on a linux box forum because you were promoting Kryptview? Well thats pretty childish of whoever the mod/webmaster was I must say. I completely agree that everyone has a right to voice whatever opinions are theirs too. But surely thats an error of the forum in question, not a grudging point against the underlying technology?

But the way you go on saying that you feel sorry for people who were led to believe Linux boxs were better, thats pretty stupid like. A Kryptview doesnt cost a whole lot of money at all, and should the said people be so inclined, they are free to change from linux to Kryptview. It aint the end of the world to change.

For me personally, the linux boxes (particularly dee box), represent what free tv was all about. You wernt buying the box of a branded company, you bought them and customised them and set them all up by yourself. These ready to use boxes in my opinion are what has ruined the whole thing, they have become way too mainstream and every second person seems to have them. Its not an underground practice anymore, and I believe this is because they are branded, and sold ready to use.

Regardless, I dont hold the box itself responsible. Thats just the way its gone. And if your hinting that Im a newbie, and only on here because there are problems today, then your wrong. I find most issues can be resolved without automatically posting for help thats why Im tagged a newbie here. Trust me I know quite a bit about how things work, but as to why Krypt have a fix and nobody else, well like everyone Im in the dark about that one. Ive only posted because its tiring looking at people filling the head of people trying to learn, with misguided/inaccurate info. Thats my final word on the subject, I wasnt looking to provoke or start a war here, the point of my message is that we are all in this together, nobody knows whats really going to happen, and fingers crossed so that krypt/linux users all get what they are hoping for.

Peace

 

yep true its not all linux boxes im against as i have 3 here myself and had a dbox as well its just 1 particular box in question thats all and the person that thinks they know it all calling a cable box that is working a lump of poo to me is belittling the people behind the fixing of these boxes which he has now come to regret as his box is the one no longer working at this time and also cutting the dreammboxes out of been able to use one of their cams so as you can see its not just me they want also to keep the linux source code to themselves

sorry if i have been coming across as if i hated every linux box but that is untrue only the one mate

and yes peace to you as well