Why not use DVDFAB DECRYPTER?

Discussion in 'DVDR' started by PennRon, Aug 23, 2005.

  1. PennRon

    PennRon Regular member

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    Hi:

    I've been away from the forum for a few months so plz forgive me if I'm a little out of touch. I have read a few of the posts so I'm trying to get back in touch.

    I see that DVD Decrypter will no longer be updated. Too bad. Awesome program. I had trouble with Hitch using Shrink (redundancy error). I cleaned the disc to no avail. I used decrypter to read it in which worked then used shrink to compress and decrypter to write it. When I went to play it the movie wouldn't start on its own. I had to do a 2x fast forward for about 5 secs, then the credits started.

    So I tried Hitch using DVDFab (the trial version) and it worked perfectly. No hesitation etc. I now have the full blown platinum edition. I just backed up The French Connection. First I used shrink to do the initial analysis for the main movie with 5.1 sound and removing all subtitles and subpics. The compression came out to 73% with my settings at 4360m/b. Normally at this point if Shrinks compression is, I think, higher than 98% it recommends that you do a full analysis (optional) which makes the entire encoding process about 90 minutes. Then you have to still burn it.

    So I tried DVDFab and I had it encode the main movie only with 5.1 sound, no subpics same as shrink and it compressed the main movie down to 4200m/b on its own. I then used DVDFab to burn the file to a Ritek blank and the pic looks great.

    This program does it all, rips, removes all the latest encryption and burns. You can either choose to rip to DVD folders to an .ISO file like shrink. It also has a wizard and automatic update. I think this program has surpassed using shrink and dvd decrypter especially because these programs no longer get updated so the new encryption algorithms are a problem. Regards...
     
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  2. teflonmyk

    teflonmyk Regular member

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    I use DVDFab Decrypter regularly. It is a wonderful program....
     
  3. LABOY

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    I have a problem with DVD Fab Decrypter (freeware latest version)..
    After I rip the movie and play it back on PowerDVD (my coputer dvd player) the movie is choppy. This has occurred on three or four movies. Since it is choppy on my computer I refuse to take the next step to burn it.
    There is not a lot to do with the settings since it is the freeware version, so I wonder what is going wrong.

    Anyone else having this problem?
     
  4. Ppower

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    I've tried DVD Fab Decrypter a few times and each time I was disapointed. It took 3 to 4 times longer to rip than DVD Decrypter and when I tried to compress using Rebuilder or DVD Copy 3 I would only get errors. Since DVD Fab Decrypter has been out how many times has it been updated... 4 or 5 times, DVD Decrypter hasn't been updated since March 21/05 and it's still going stong. I don't want to knock Fab Decrypter, there may be a time when we'll need it, but I can't see any reason to use it right now.
     
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  5. PennRon

    PennRon Regular member

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    hi:

    Thanks for the input. I have used Fab 6x now with absolutely flawless copies. Sorry Laboy but I dont know why your output is choppy.

    In addition, PPower, I do not understand why you had to compress using rebuilder. Fab automatically compresses the output to fit on a blank dvd+-/r. At least it did for me. Also I would say that it rips at the same speed as Decrypter. Thats an estimate, but I will time it next time. Plus if you rip with decrypter the file still has to be compressed. correct? taking more time.

    Hey Fab may not be a panacea but so far I like what I see. Regards...
     
  6. MovieDud

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    I like Dab Decrypter, yet I use DVD Decrypter more because I'm use to it! Again give it time and I feel Fab Decrypter will get better. I also will use Smartripper. It all goes back to what works with your individual system
    MovieDud
     
  7. RedAnt

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    -FabDVD Decrypter(Freeware/retail)is a solid program I have used it in the past and have not yet been disapointed.I have recommended to my friends and family and I have yet to hear any complaints.
     
  8. brobear

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    DVDFab is a product of Fengtao Software. Many of us first noticed them with the DVD Region Free. It's a decent program, but it isn't updated as quickly as it should be. When a new encryption system comes out, AnyDVD is right on it. In the past DVD Decrypter was right in there quickly as well. Fengtao always seems to get there, but they have problems and take a while doing it. So, I use AnyDVD to back up any software that may be lacking in decryption software. It has some nice navigation controls as well, no trailers and adverts. As far as the transcoding, I've yet to run tests to see how the pixels hold together at different compression levels and magnification with DVDFab. The software doesn't impress me and the decryption software from Fengtao has always left me unimpressed. The price is competitive for the Platinum package is about the best I can say for this app for now.
     
  9. teflonmyk

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    I only use the freeware version. It does take slightly longer to rip to HD, but not so much so as to become burdensome... I haven't had any quality issues with my ripped video, nor have I encountered a release that it couldn't rip (I'm in Region 1). *knock on wood* I use it in conjunction with Recode2...
     
  10. PennRon

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    hi:

    Yes people I started this thread to get input on other users experiences with this program. While doing so you are also using comparisons with other solid ripping, burning programs we all use. While I am not saying that FAB is the greatest thing since slice bread I believe its a powerful tool to have in your software library.

    The reason why I used it is because I was having trouble backing up Hitch. Then I found out there is an entire thread dedicated to backing up Hitch problems. I was weaned on Shrink and Decrypter and they couldn't do my Hitch for whatever reason although some other people have had success. I just thought it had to do with a new encryption algorithim. Thats why I decided to try FAB and again it seems to do almost everything shrink and decrypter do and then some (rips an entire dvd9 onto (2) dvd5's with no quality loss retaining all menus). It also rips to DL media.

    I still use decrypter and shrink but sometime in the future they will be vastly outdated. Regards...
     
  11. MovieDud

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    PennRon, I think you nailed it. If it works great for your needs and system then use it. I also have Fab Platinum, use it occasionally, yet not as much as Copy 3 or CloneDvd2. It is amazing how many tools are out there and yet to see what the majority use for their different copying needs. Happy Burning!
    MovieDud
     
  12. brobear

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    Whatever floats your boat, as 'Pete says... The encryption arena has slowed down for a while with only slight variations on what we already have. So, Fengtao has had a long time to catch up. When the Sony ARccOS, bad sector, and structure encryption first came along, Fengtao was weeks catching up.

    As for Hitch, I didn't realize there was a problem until I heard people complaining. That goes for a lot of other DVDs as well. They even started threads on Kung Fu Hustle; ARccOS and bad sector is old news and even the free DVD43 handles it now. I remember when those first came out, Little Black Book, Resident Evil 2, and the Grudge were big thread topics. Island Thunder nailed it right off the bat with AnyDVD, Lightning UK was using some patches for a quick fix until he got DVD Decrypter up to par. Didn't take long and that is freeware he was supporting. Fengtao eventually caught up, then so did DVD43. For a retail app, Fengtao should have better R&D than freeware. I do appreciate their work with the free DVDFab Decrypter. I'd like to see them improve it though.

    It's almost ridiculous how many recording programs are available. They work with varying degrees of quality, but many put out a decent video. Same goes for burners. The key to a quality encode is supplying a clean decrypted source for the input. The vast majority of the time that is where people run into trouble. Usable decrypters can be counted on the fingers of one hand and currently the truly outstanding ones only call for 2. Put your own favorites there if you will and I would almost bet we agree on half of them. LOL

    In the end, software selection boils down to what the individual is comfortable with and what works on their system. Happens all the time. I have no complaints as long as someone doesn't come along trying to sell me on One Click over RB/CCE or DVD43 over AnyDVD or DVDClone over Shrink (good story there if one researches it, seems somebody borrowed Shrink for a control window app).

    Last summer a group got together and started testing transcoders and encoders along with various decryption and burning software. The emphasis was on the transcoders and encoders. We went over many of the top names. At the time, some of the leaders didn't even stack up and were relying on hype. Luckily, some like the CloneDVD2 have improved. InterVideo's DVDCopy 2 was a stinker on some movies. They replaced that with DVDCopy 3, which turned out to be a very good app across the board. It's a little short on editing abilities, but then it transcodes so well, the editing isn't usually needed. Nero's Recode is another that's improved, the author of Shrink is supposedly there now. For those big jobs I go to RB/CCE when I need to work with high compression or I just want the best quality. Seems several of the other members involved with the testing ended up going with that app as well. It's in the final stages of testing before going retail. The author intended and succeeded in making RB one of the best choices. With the Rockas installer, the setup is now easy. http://www.dvd-rb.com

    If DVDFab makes you happy, by all means use it... Funny thing, RB/CCE costs about the same, it doesn't try to do all the things DVDFab does, it's just one of the best encoder setups available. It's the encoder I did Hitch with. They were really having problems with Hitch? Then that would have been in the encryption again. I keep that software up to date.
     
  13. MovieDud

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    @brobear, great words and true to the heart. Rebuilder w/CCE is simply awesome. I use it consistently with a variety of jobs, especially the big compression jobs. I personally believe nothing beats it. Even if there are those of whom do not wish to purchase the CCE Encoder, the free apps that come along with the Rockas Installer is better than most transcoders and 1 clicks. I think it frightens many off with the power of it, yet once you set it up it does the rest. Again great words and thanks for your experience and expertise! Have a great day!
    MovieDud
     
  14. Ppower

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    PennRon I had to compress with something else because I was only tring the the freeware out, just the ripper. That's what I was talking about on my previous post, DVD Fab Decrypter. If you like the one click program, great use whatever works for you. I just can't see the the point of using DVD Fab Decrypter over DVD Decrypter. DVD Decrypter rips faster, rips ISOs, burns ISOs, gives media information, bit setting etc, etc.
     
  15. brobear

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    ...processes multiangle files, etc, etc...
     
  16. Ppower

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    The list goes on, and on, and on. It's really amazing it's freeware.
     
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  17. brobear

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    This was one of those cases where an app was truly so good the movie industry went out of the way to try to eliminate it. If DVD Decrypter had been retail I would have bought it. Sometimes when you think of banned you may think of 321 software. That was just a situation where the high profile of the company set them up as a test case. The banned in the US hype helped the sales, but the app was never worth the prices they were asking.
     
  18. Ppower

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    Yeah 321 products were always over priced. Even to this day it's being sold for big money. DVD Decrypter is worth alot of money. I would have payed whatever LUK was asking. DVD Decrypter ripped 95% of my backups. I still get teary eyed it wont be updated anymore. I need a Kleanex
     
  19. brobear

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    I'm not likely to turn loose of DVD Decrypter any time soon. It is an excellent ripper and as noted, it does much more than just decrypt files. So, as long as I have a good driver type decryption tool to support it when needed, I'm going to keep it and use it on a regular basis; much as I have in the past. DVDD is no longer supported, but it will probably be a useful app for quite a while.
     
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    just my 2 cents...... I use DVDFab Express....... it's not bad and I only use it if the movie doens't need too much compression. It gives a choice of speeds (which I only burn at 4x). But I must say I only use DVDD for ripping to hard drive when I want to use DVDRB Pro with CCE! that's the best and I use it when a movie really needs compression cause I don't want to lose quality!
     

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