Yet Another Console Debate Thread.

i loathe the wiimote simply because its so different and hard to get used to. also, i overheat after some madden or a little cod3. i generally dont want to feel tired when i game, i like relaxing. cod3 on wii sucks, this shaking excessivly to beat someone and not being told how to do it adaquately, and steering vehicles with the 2 controller parts when only one is needed (one that aches your hand so bad tilting your wrist that way so much). i like the sixaxis much more than the lame sensor bar, you dont have to be up all over the place in many games. if the ps3 can relax me, i can have loads of fun with it, all while looking better doing it, whats not to lose?

 

(wow does my router ever blow)

 

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the wii is a party console ... not really great individually,unlike 360 and PS3.

 

well this was me and my friends wii and we were playing together. another thing about the wii is if you dont own one, many games are off limits to you because the motion sensing is in no way intuitive without going through training and getting used to how a certain game works. i was thrown into madden for the wii and first being told how to kick off and what button dives, while my friend jumps up for interceptions, thrusts for a power tackle, stiff arms me for a kickoff touchdown. people say the ps3 and xbox controllers confuse people, but when a german comes from knowhere and starts beating you to hell and you have a wiimote with no buttons and your confused and frightend, death is around the corner so fast and failure is the only option. the the ps3 and xbox 360, i cant jump into any game and figure out all the controlls by myself in minutes, with no problem. the wii is a totally different story.

 

I see your point, but basing most of it off a game that got terrible reviews for controller mechanics (in fact IGN blasted the game for many of the same reasons you just mentioned) is a little unfair to the controller. Most of this criticism should be directed towards activision.
And while many people like to use excessive motions, the fact is that in a lot of games it isn't necessary to achieve the desired function. Not many games have made the wii-mote customizeable, but I think that in the future it could be suited to the needs of just about anyone.

I agree. What they call the ps3 wasn't so much what I was talking about when I said they alienated their gamer base. What alienated them (imo) was having the system cost 200 dollars more than what it should've been, putting the most cutting edge hardware in it, and eventually losing exclusive 3rd party support that, quite frankly, was the biggest reason Sony had such a commanding lead with their last two consoles. Following a rather dissappointing launch, I wouldn't be surprised if a few developers either can their ps3 projects, or decide to port them over to other consoles (i.e the 360).

Right now I think you're absolutely right. Aside from Zelda and maybe a few others, the only games being talked about are the (offline) multiplayer games. Wii sports/play, rayman, and monkey ball to name the big 4. Even Red Steel's multiplayer is better than the single player, which is a huge dissappointment to just about everyone.
However, new games are being announced daily, a lot of which will either enhance the single player experience (No more Heroes, Resident Evil, Metroid, Mario, etc) as well as games that hopefully will fully utilize wiiconnect and wifi (SSB:B).

 

Hey man, can't argue with you there. As a gamer, regular controls come as second nature to me.
I'm a fast learner, so I don't mind too much when confronted with an entirely new way to play.

 

Don't be offended but I think you need to get in shape. I suggest less video games and more physical exercise for a change.

 

Video games where made to sit down and play after a hard day of work..video games are suppose to be relaxing and fun to play...im not saying the wii is a bad thing its more of a party machine(as someone said earlier in this thread) where people get together at a house and play like ping pong together or volleyball of the kind of gameing...i personally like sitting down and relaxing to play a game...not jumping and swingimg my arms around like crazy...of course swinging my arms like carzy and jumping will tirer anyone out after an hour or 2 of jumping and swining..

 

Activity based games - like those on the Wii - can help you get in shape and lose weight:

http://www.nbc10.com/health/10797741/detail.html?rss=phi&psp=news

...and can also help the fight against childhood obesity:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/01/070104144703.htm

 

The reason i dont like the Wii is because its just like anubis66 is saying..If you come in from a hard day of work the last thing i want to do is swing around a remote.I want to relax you can do this with the Sixaxis.

 

i love the ps3 but unfortunatley i don't own one. I don't like the sixaxis though because it seems unescessary. I like to just sit there and play with the buttons and joystics. But the wii isn't bad for people who are normally active and don't like to sit and play a game and would rather be moving and playing tennis or something.

 

i dont understand why ppl think Sony had a difficult launch when every single console was sold within 24 hours of launch day. I guess its cause they didnt make enough PS3 to go around cuz i had enough money at the time to buy one but now i dont.....sad.

It is still early tho to judge a next gen console besides for 360 ofcourse. But we all saw what the 360 can do after a year or so(GOW)...so about a year from now the wii and the PS3 should have a game that will match the level of GOW. Even tho imo PS3 had the best launch title of any console with Resistance. But im still feeling shakey about the wii... since Zelda was also a port on GC and looks exactly the same and plays the same besides for the wiimote controll. Makes it seems like the GC can do what the wii does graphically. But like i said its still too early to judge.

 

those are great articles, but god are they miss leading peoples. first of all the blu-ray isn't slower or should i say isn't gonna be slower for longer.

i think you all should read this article, its the only one out there that isn't bias.
http://www.techspot.com/articles/blu-ray_vs_hddvd/

 

Anbius
If you want me to tell you what a six axis is its;
A cheap rip-off of teh Wii-mote as it was only said to have it after the Wii-mote was said to have motion sensing and proves if sony had known this earlier they would have added more the Wii-mote can be used the same way as a ps3 one can by tiltting since its accelor-metres tell it in whihc direction and how fast the controler is moving whihc means tilting works like used in carbon.
COD3 on the Wii is pretty good and controls are easy unless anyboady is ortistic it shouldnt take more then 30min for you to become a pro at it gamespot also said that the lack of Online is made up by great controls...
The Wii graphically is much better then the Gamecube it has 343mhz while the GC only had 162 making it 2.5x faster.

 

That article is a good find, but it's a year old and it's comparing br vs hddvd. You quoted 36 mbps and a 2x prototype from that article. Sony's already using a 2x/72 mbps for their games which, obviously, is better than what that old article states.

The ps3's drive has a faster transfer rate for regular dvd's as compared to br. They'd get better results releasing games on dvd-9's.

Now, I have no doubt that in the future the ps3 will get faster drives, amongst other upgrades. That's why in my original post, which you quoted, I stated that RIGHT NOW blu-ray games may be hurting the ps3. It work's decent enough for a movie player. But let's face it, I'm sure we all agree that we want the number one priority of the ps3 to be gaming.

 

Lets not forget that ps3 is a relativly new system and blu-ray is new to game developers. The only way game developers are going to make blu-ray games better is through trial and error. Who knows maybe they'll find a way to fix load time without wasting space. There is just one thing I don't understand. Lets say Blu-Ray fails and it becomes obsolete, doesn't PS3 still have HD capabilites. What does the 360 have over the PS3 that they can't replicate? (honest question)

 

Honestly, neither should want to replicate each other. It's the competitiveness between the console manufactures which keeps the breakthrought, innovations, and prices (amongst other things) benefiting the consumers.

This isn't directed to keeprolin, but to any of the fanboys (not flaming ya's), while it's your god given right to have your negative opinions about one manufacturer or the other, you should never hope that they fail.

Take Nintendo for instance. With the way the Wii is steamrolling Sony and MS with sales, we (the consumer) may see a price cut sooner than later then if Nintendo had just faded out of the picture way back when.

Now, this is just an example... so please don't come back yelling to post a link to prove they're "steamrolling" or what-not. I'm just trying to paint a picture.

You guys see what I'm saying, right?

 

Double post sorry