Yet Another Console Debate Thread.

Discussion in 'PS3 - Modding & Hacking' started by anubis66, Jan 17, 2007.

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  1. colinman

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    ps3 sales dropped significantly
     
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    i get whats your saying the 3 need eachother (consumer wise) not company wise...without nintendo (four use consumers) doing sooo good in sales the other two sony/microsoft will go ohh damm we need to do something to compete with that...so sony/microsoft will lower there console just a little to see if it can compete...if not the'll lower them alittle more..just to compete with nintendo doing so good.(so us consumers get good deals outta the 3 compteing money wise...is this what your saying?
     
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    Exactly. With the 3 putting out great systems, it'll keep them competitive.
     
  4. oofRome

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    It's not Blu-ray that is the problem. Blu-ray is merely data storage. The "trouble" developers are having concerns the rsx and especially the cell processor. (in regards to game quality. loading times are addressed below)
    There are plenty of ways to minimize load times. Smart streaming and dumping files on the hard drive are common practices. Developers can't change the data transfer rate of the actual drive, though. That's where most of the loading times are concerned. The amount of information that is transfered from the disk to the unit via the laser is fixed because the speed at which the disk is spinning is physically fixed (2x) in the ps3.
    Absolutely. It would just be, more or less, a ps3 proprietary format. It won't have an effect on gaming either way.

    Nothing, really. I'm not taking a dig at either company, but the 360 and the ps3 offer similar experiences.
    However, the ps3 can play blu-ray movies right out of the box.

    Right now, sony is mandating that all games are BD. Maybe it would be helpful if you understand a big part of sony's strategy. The success of BD won't affect games, but the success of BD is almost vital to the other branches of Sony corp. Sony has invested a lot in Blu-ray, be it Sony pictures or movie playback electronics.

    To touch back on the 360 vs ps3 question you posed earlier, the main difference is just the price. (And actually the 360 has a lot more gaming titles available, but for the sake of this argument don't worry about it) If blu-ray fails, than in essense you would've spent an extra 200 dollars for a feature that wasn't needed.
    On the flipside, if Blu-Ray prevails, than not only do you have a ps3, but a blu-ray player too - and at a cost less than what a standalone blu-ray player retails at.
     
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  5. keeprolin

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    I read a few articles on how MS makes a little profit per console sold while PS3 is tons of money per console. Maybe these articles are not that reliable but if this is the case I don't see a drop in PS3 prices. (this might also lead to the downfall of PS3)
     
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    I thought I read too on IGN that MS was making a slight profit now on their consoles. Also, they are projected to make like $70 million off of Live for next year.
     
  7. oofRome

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    Right now, I'm pretty sure Sony is losing money off every console sold.
    The microsoft figure might be right. They were losing money too when it was launched, but after 13+ months, they have to at least be breaking even.
     
  8. sunset29

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    I know the price of the PS3 is greater than the price of the 360 but isn't the PS3 equivalent of Xbox live free? I think people who talk about the price difference should consider that when they choose one to buy. With the price of Xbox live, you would probably be better off moneywise after a few years if u got the PS3 i think.
     
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    I think the difference is that XBL isn't required to play a game, I know many people who don't use the gold service b/c they hate dealing little brats while playing a game, so they mostly just play single player or split screen. I use it, but it's personal preference, but at least you're given the choice as to how much you want to spend.

    Also, you may want to change your sig before a mod sees it, advertising on this site is not allowed and considered spam.
     
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    Sony isnt making any money on there consoles yet they are losing about $100 on each one sold!!
     
  11. NexGen76

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    Every console maker lose money in the beginning because company have to cover cost of what it took to make the system & some etc..stuff, they get most of there money like a year or two down the road so Sony or Microsoft losing money is a normal thing.
     
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    even with the reported losses per ps3 sold im sure the ps2 department is more than able to compensate for said losses. it was yet again the most successful console for the holiday season topping the ps3/360/wii/gamecube/xbox. it also apparently had 4 of the top 10 selling games for the month of december. not bad for a 6 year old system. sony isn't pushing just one console like microsoft and nintendo. note, by console i don't mean handhelds...

    call me crazy, but i think sony is in quite the position right now and they still have another real killer app due out that'l continue the longevity of the ps2(GodofWar2). hopefully now we'll start to see some real killer apps on the ps3.
     
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    Lets not forget PSP sales which has been very good.Nintendo DS is out saleing PSP but PSP has sold very well and will pickup more steam when Sony has there remote mode working fully with the PS3.Sony is making profit off the PSP also.
     
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    Yup, the PSP is not a failure like most people would have you believe.
     
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    I often wondered why they didn't wait and put God of War2 out on the PS3. It would of helped their console sales emmencely. It's one of my favorite button smasher games of all time. I think they dropped the ball on this one.
     
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    I read that the reason why because the dev's for GOW had already started on GOW2 right after they finish the first one because they had alot of ideas from the first game they wanted to carry over to the second game.Plus the Devs was not sure when the release date for the PS3.But to be honest i think GOW 3 going to be a killer-app on PS3 plus this give them more time to figure out more about the cell.
     
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  18. anubis66

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    hola everyone. if anyne wonders where ive been for a week on on a two week vacation in puerto rico. i probably cant post much till the 2nd week of february. its really fun here, ive been to a several million year old cave, scuba diving (reefs are beautiful), and horse riding through jungle and on the beach. the beaches are nice too, wonderful hills of volcanic rock covered in foliage, and sands of coruse to fine minerals.

    k so on topic, has sony release any good news about its ps3 plans? and have games that are really wanted further delayed again for a third or fouth time?
     
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  19. BobbyBlu

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    It just dawn on me but how can you call the Wii innovative went Nintendo made the same kind of system in the Super nes with the power glove & powerpad.
     
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  20. oofRome

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    The power glove and the power pad were for the NES, actually, but I guess you're right they are the exact same as the Wii controller(s)...


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    PS3 price cuts are already in the rumor mill, and Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter has been delayed, but only in the UK. (I think)
    That's all I got right now.

    edit** Saints Row is coming to ps3.
     
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