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Discussion in 'DVDR' started by lee73, Dec 17, 2005.

  1. lee73

    lee73 Member

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    hi,i know the basics of burning dvd's with nero, etc,but i have run into a problem that i'm not sure how to get around.I have successfully burned dvd files on my hd to disk with no probs,but i recently bought some 'less expensive'blank dvd-r disks(tdk) and for some reason i can't burn onto them,i tried burning the same project onto a dvd-rw disk beforehand and it was ok but when i tried with the tdk disks using nero i got error message(something like)could not perform start of disk at once,followed by burn failed at 2.4x
    so basically i figure the media isnt compatible with either the nero burning rom or the recorder,can someone please help and let me know whether the problem is with the dvd recorder or nero and if there is any way around it,like maybe different burner etc etc
    if you need more info please let me know the specifics
    many thanks for your help
    lee
     
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  3. lee73

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    thnaks mate,i give it a read but it doesn't really help,i read that tdk disks are poor,but is that it they are coasters and theres nothing i can do at all?
     
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    binkie7 Moderator Staff Member

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    @lee73
    It sounds like your burner doesn't like the tdk's. Make sure your firmware is up to date - this may help your burner 'burn' them. Your best bet is to pick up some better media - like the ty's or verbatims.
    Post your last Nero log (make sure you remove the serial #'s) and we can see if something else is going on also.
     
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  5. lee73

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    thanks binkie7,in future yes i will get the better disks
    i dont know how to get a nero log or check if firmware is up to date,sorry
    i know the basics of burning ,but im not sure on any other aspect of it
    any advice is welcomed
    thanks lee
     
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    binkie7 Moderator Staff Member

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    @lee73
    Not a prob! Here's where you Nero log will be.
    Go to: c:program files>ahead>nero>nerohistory.log.
    Each burn log is separated by this:
    ===== *** NeroAPI, History File *** =====
    Just copy and paste the last one. Edit out the serial # - they begin w/ 1A.
    The log will tell us your drive, firmware etc. Post that and we should be able to sort it out for you!
     
  7. lee73

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    hey binkie7 thanks for the help,i really appreciate it
    i hope this is the log info you need:

    Windows XP 5.1
    IA32
    WinAspi: -
    ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Ahead\nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.59, size=160016 bytes, created 16/12/2003 17:18:04
    Nero version: 6.3.0.2 (Nero Express)
    Recorder: <_NEC DVD_RW ND-2510A> Version: 2.04 - HA 1 TA 0 - 6.3.0.2
    Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 1
    Drive buffer : 2048kB
    Bus Type : via Inquiry data (1) -> ATAPI, detected: ATAPI
    Connected to MMC as unknown drive with class-nr : 1
    Drive is autodetected - recorder class: Std. MMC recorder
    CD-ROM: <_NEC DVD_RW ND-2510A >Version: 2.04 - HA 1 TA 0 - 6.3.0.2
    Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 1

    === Scsi-Device-Map ===
    DiskPeripheral : ST380012A atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
    CdRomPeripheral : _NEC DVD_RW ND-2510A atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On
    CdRomPeripheral : Generic DVD-ROM 1.0 d347prt Port 2 ID 0 DMA: Off

    === CDRom-Device-Map ===
    _NEC DVD_RW ND-2510A D: CDRom0
    Generic DVD-ROM E: CDRom1
    =======================

    AutoRun : 1
    Excluded drive IDs:
    CmdQueuing : 1
    CmdNotification: 2
    WriteBufferSize: 39845888 (0) Byte
    ShowDrvBufStat : 0
    EraseSpeed : 0
    BUFE : 0
    Physical memory : 247MB (253424kB)
    Free physical memory: 26MB (26924kB)
    Memory in use : 89 %
    Uncached PFiles: 0x0
    Use Static Write Speed Table: 0
    Use Inquiry : 1
    Global Bus Type: default (0)
    Check supported media : Disabled (0)

    17.12.2005
    UDF/ISO compilation
    15:08:29 #1 Phase 112 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1800
    DVD-Video files reallocation started

    15:08:29 #2 Text 0 File DVDVideoCompilation.cpp, Line 540
    Content of VIDEO_TS.IFO has been modified

    15:08:29 #3 Text 0 File DVDVideoCompilation.cpp, Line 540
    Content of VIDEO_TS.BUP has been modified

    15:08:29 #4 Text 0 File DVDVideoCompilation.cpp, Line 540
    Content of VTS_01_0.IFO has been modified

    15:08:29 #5 Text 0 File DVDVideoCompilation.cpp, Line 540
    Content of VTS_01_0.BUP has been modified

    15:08:29 #6 Phase 113 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1800
    DVD-Video files reallocation completed

    15:08:29 #7 Text 0 File Isodoc.cpp, Line 6029
    Iso document burn settings
    ------------------------------------------
    Determine maximum speed : FALSE
    Simulate : FALSE
    Write : TRUE
    Finalize CD : TRUE
    Multisession : FALSE
    Burning mode : DAO
    Mode : 1
    ISO Level : 1 (Max. of 11 = 8 + 3 char)
    Character set : ISO 9660
    Joliet : TRUE
    Allow pathdepth more than 8 directories : FALSE
    Allow more than 255 characters in path : FALSE
    Write ISO9660 ;1 file extensions : TRUE

    15:08:29 #8 Phase 111 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1800
    DVD-Video files sorted

    15:08:29 #9 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 118
    Reader running

    15:08:29 #10 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3882
    First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

    15:08:29 #11 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3882
    First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

    15:08:30 #12 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3101
    Turn on Disc-at-once, using DVD media

    15:08:30 #13 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 240
    Last possible write address on media: 2298495 (510:46.45, 4489MB)
    Last address to be written: 1911791 (424:50.41, 3733MB)

    15:08:30 #14 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 245
    Write in overburning mode: FALSE

    15:08:30 #15 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2085
    Recorder: _NEC DVD_RW ND-2510A, Media type: DVD-R
    Disc Manufacturer: TTH02 -
    Disc Application Code: 64, Disc Physical Code: 193

    15:08:30 #16 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 406
    >>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
    =========================================

    15:08:30 #17 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 779
    Setup items (after recorder preparation)
    0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 (CTransferItem)
    2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
    original disc pos #0 + 1911792 (1911792) = #1911792/424:50.42
    relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/required, no patch infos
    -> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 1911792 blocks [_NEC DVD_RW ND-2510A ]
    --------------------------------------------------------------

    15:08:30 #18 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 948
    Prepare recorder [_NEC DVD_RW ND-2510A ] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
    DAO infos:
    ==========
    MCN: ""
    TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
    Tracks 1 to 1:
    1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 3915350016, ISRC ""
    DAO layout:
    ===========
    __Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_RecDep_|_CtrlAdr_
    0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x00 | 0x41
    0 | 1 | 0 | 0x00 | 0x41
    0 | 1 | 1 | 0x00 | 0x41
    1911792 | lead-out | 1 | 0x00 | 0x41

    15:08:30 #19 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1800
    Caching of files started

    15:08:30 #20 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4073
    Cache writing successful.

    15:08:30 #21 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1800
    Caching of files completed

    15:08:30 #22 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1800
    Burn process started at 2.4x (3,312 KB/s)

    15:08:30 #23 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2264
    Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

    15:08:30 #24 Text 0 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1658
    Set remaining time: 11:55,140 (715140ms) -> OK

    15:08:30 #25 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 1512
    Recording mode: Sequential Recording Mode

    15:08:30 #26 Text 0 File Mmc.cpp, Line 19451
    Set BUFE: JustLink -> ON

    15:08:30 #27 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 1643
    Start write address at LBA 0
    DVD high compatibility mode: Yes

    15:08:30 #28 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 7941
    ---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
    Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
    Book Type: DVD-R (2), Part Version: 5
    Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: <not specified> (F h)
    Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
    Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
    Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
    End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 26127F h
    End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h
    Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
    Media Specific:
    60 00 10 20 30 40 50 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 `...0@P.........
    02 FE 10 00 02 FF A0 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................

    15:08:30 #29 SCSI -1046 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1171
    SCSI Exec, HA 1, TA 0, LUN 0
    Status: 0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
    HA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
    TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
    Sense Key: 0x05 (KEY_ILLEGAL_REQUEST)
    Sense Code: 0x30
    Sense Qual: 0x05
    CDB Data: 0x53 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x1D 0x2B 0xF0 0x00 0x00 0x00
    Sense Data: 0x70 0x00 0x05 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0A
    0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x30 0x05

    15:08:30 #30 CDR -1046 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1573
    Illegal disc

    15:08:30 #31 TRANSFER -27 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1573
    Could not perform start of Disc-at-once

    15:08:30 #32 Text 0 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1658
    Set remaining time: 0:00,000 (0ms) -> OK

    15:08:30 #33 Phase 38 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1800
    Burn process failed at 2.4x (3,312 KB/s)


    Existing drivers:
    File 'Drivers\PXHELP20.SYS': Ver=2.02.62a, size=20016 bytes, created 12/10/2005 11:07:41 (Prassi/Veritas driver for win 2K)
    File 'Drivers\atapi.sys': Ver=5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158), size=95360 bytes, created 04/08/2004 05:59:42 (Adapter driver for rec)

    Registry Keys:
    HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)

    ====== *** Nero-Burning Rom, History File *** ======
     
  8. blivetNC

    blivetNC Regular member

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    Turn your DMA on for this drive if you are using it to copy DVD's to a blank DVD, otherwise I recommend ripping to your hard drive first.
    To turn on the DMA go here. http://home.comcast.net/~bbmayo/FAQ.htm
    Try turning of the disk at once feature, this may help you as well,,,
     
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    Just passin through.
    You should also update your NERO. You are way behind. Should be 6.6.0.18

    Cheers.

     
  10. binkie7

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    lee73:
    Than NEC burner should handle 4X or 8X TDK DVD-R (TTG01 or TTG02) without a problem, once firmware is updated. At work I have a 3 year old NEC 1300A that burns either of those disks at 4x.
     
  12. lee73

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    thanks for your help everyone
    binkie7,i have read the instructions to download the latest firmware but when i get to the page where the download should be there's nowhere to press for it,it shows this:



    NEC DVD-ROM Firmware Flash Utility Download
    Please note: Firmware updates for NEC DVD drives will generally only add new media information and will not solve issues in conjunction with some software packages.
    If the firmware upgrade is not performed correctly or if the power supply is interrupted during the upgrade, the drive may be rendered unusable. If you wish to upgrade the firmware, you do so at your sole and exclusive risk. NEC takes no responsibility for any errors or problems with any firmware upgrade. This software is provided "as is" with no warranty whatsoever. NEC will not supply any technical service or support regarding this firmware or any upgrade.

    The NEC firmware upgrade below should not be used with external USB / FireWire drives or with OEM drives from HP, DELL, Medion, Fujitsu, Siemens, Gateway, or any other OEM manufacturer. If you wish to update the firmware on an OEM drive, please contact the dealer or manufacturer.


    Download Firmware:


     
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    The link is missing. Try reloading the page or just navigate to it again. Make sure you follow the directions carefully. That's why they make you click on an acknowledgement that you have read the directions and provide you with an option to print them out.
     
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    binkie7 Moderator Staff Member

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    @lee73
    What's the brand of your pc? Or did you buy the drive directly? Firmware versions go in numberical/alpha order.
     
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    ok first of all binkie7,my pc is emachines 3230

    right i have managed to access the download
    i have followed the instructions and determined it is my 'master' drive,however it comes up with the error box 'target NEC ND-2510A is not found correctly' in a pop up box,as shown in one of the instruction display boxes,but it says verify the correct drive,but the dropdown box in the original bigger box,is greyed out so i cant access it,also in the box where it should say'target drive is not found' it says instead'SPTI ready'
    i think ive followed the instructions well enough i just cant see a way to resolve this problem
    please help

    ive also updated my nero to 6.6,so with a bit of luck if i can get round this problem,i might be back almost there
    thanks lee
     
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    binkie7 Moderator Staff Member

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    Those errors can mean it doesn't see the drive or the firmware doesn't match the model. I'm still thinking that nec is the oem. So instead of guiding you the wrong way let me see who i can call in.
     
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    i'm here :)

    hi, i'll just attack the logfile for now....and read the rest of the thread afterwards

    - Nero's too old, latest 6.x version is 6.6.0.18, download "update package 1" from here - http://ww2.nero.com/enu/nero-up.php

    - see here - http://forum.rpc1.org/dl_firmware.php?download_id=1837

    - if your burner is a 'proper' NEC drive, then the lastest firmware for your drive is 2.18; if your drive is a Dell OEM (ie is your PC a Dell, and if so did the burner come shipped with the PC?), in which case 205C is the firmware you need

    - yup, Nero's too old to recognise your burner

    - 512MB is what i consider the minimum for dvd work. you should get more memory, and for now you're gonna have to dig deep to close down as much as you can to free up more memory

    - not very good discs

    - see previous comment
     
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  18. lee73

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    cheers binkie7 and creaky
    first of all,ive already updated my nero to 6.6.0.18
    ive tried burning onto the same disk and it never worked
    i can confirm that the cd/dvd rw is built into and came with my pc,which is an emachines 3230.
    the main prob i have is what i said in the other post about the error box when trying the firmware update,so basically thats what i need to sort out how to do.
    on a side note,i can just bin these cheap disks,but will i eventually have to get the firmware updated anyway,if so i would if i can get it sorted now that will be great
    it seems that verion 2.18 is the latest update for my drive,so with that,what could i be doing wrong in the firmware update for the message i posted earlier?
    thanks lee
     
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    Did you disable the slave drive?
     
  20. lee73

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    binkie7,yes,i disabled the slave drive if the slave drive being the other sub category within cd/dvd rom drives from the device manager called 'generic dvd rom scsi cdrom device'
    i also found another item within the device manager which the instructions said would be in control panel and to uninstall called intel(r) 8280 1db ultra ATA storage controller-24b,but kept needing rebooting and reinstalled itself
    another thing i found was when trying the download flash,i tried from a direct download from the page and tried from saving it to my desktop then proceeding and found in properties that the file was blocked as it came from another computer but i unblocked it and tried again with no luck,from my understanding it seems ive followed all the insructions and even tried with other drives enabled and disabled but every time i get the same error,in the flash box it says 'spti ready',in the window,but then the pop up box always appears with'target NEC ND-2510A is not found correctly'i tried to close the popup box down and the first box closes with it so i cant enter any details in the flash box for correct drive etc
    some things are not meant to be and unfortunaltely for me this seems to be one of them.
    oh well,thanks for you time and help binkie7
     

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