I'm trying to backup far cry, but not having much luck. I've tried CloneCD and Alcohol 120 and am about to try Blindwrite. I'm using a Pioneer DVR-106D. I've noticed that I can start the image-making process with either clone or alcohol, leave, and come back 10 min later to find that I'm not even to 1% copied. I'm aware that the disc is protected by safedisc, and as far as I know, it can be defeated by both clone and 120, but it's not going to do me much good if I can't even get an image made. Any advice? I'll post the results of my attempt with blindwrite here. Edit: Well, blindwrite seems to be doing the same thing. Any advice?
Hi, Alcohol 120% should be the top choice for Far Cry (SafeDisc 3.15) although I used BW5 on it with great results. The Pioneer 106D isn't a 2-sheep burner so it's not going to happen. A 2-sheeper is critical to making a working backup of the newest protections. I'm not sure why the image making process is going so slow. How about some system specs?
Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 1 (2600.xpsp2.030422-1633) System Model: A7N8X2.0 BIOS: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2700+, MMX, 3DNow, ~2.2GHz Memory: 512MB RAM I'm not entirely sure what you mean by 2 sheep burning...
If you need to burn a SafeDisc2/3 protected game the major consideration is the drive doing the copy; certain drives have certain characteristics that give them an easier time to perform SafeDisc2 copies than others. Such drives are described as being 2-sheep burners. Drives not quite up to the task (however capable of), are described as 1-sheep burners and heaven forbid, 0-sheep burners. So the first thing you need to do is to find out what make/model your burner is and if it is a 2-sheep burner or not. To determine your make and model of your optical drives; if you happen to have Nero Infotools installed, start it up and under the Drive tab, it will list all the relevant specifications and capabilities of your burner. The actual name of your burner is listed in the drop-down box at the top (those numbers before the name of your burner are important too!). You can get InfoTools from http://www.cd-rw.org/software/cdr_software/cdr_tools/nero_info_tool.cfm Once you have determined tha name of the burner, head on over to http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/45121 to see if that burner is listed there or not. If it is listed there, it is a 2-sheep burner; if it is not listed there it is not neccesarily a 2-sheep burner but highly unlikely. Now if you have a 2-sheep burner head on over to http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/23699 to find out how to copy a SafeDisc2 protected game. If you are running a 1-sheeper than visit http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/36444 for the appropriate guide.
A "2-sheep" burner is one that can write EFM correctly which is critical to backing up the new protections. Unfortunately very few DVD burners can do this. here's a list of 2-sheep writers: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/45121
Well, I was able to get the rest of the discs copied, so I burned the first disc and tried running it, and it didn't want to work very well, so I'm going to invest in one of those '2-sheep' burners. The lite-ons are pretty cheap! Thanks for the advice everyone!
I have a pioneer 106D and have made a perfect back up of far cry with alcohol 120. This is an important trick for everybody in this discussion forum to read. I have found out that no matter what the copyright protection is, this technique works everytime. For backing up any game (no matter how sophisticated the protection) this is all you need to do. 1. First, install the game from the original disc. 2. Start the game as if you are going to play it. 3. When the title screen for the game appears, hit control, alt, delete, or the alt/option key to exit back to the desktop. The game should still be running in the menu bar. 4. Open Alcohol 120 and click on the "emulation" tab. 5. Next, click on extra emulation. Check the box that reads bad sectors emulation. hit OK. 6. Now click on emulation wizard. check the two boxes that read "skip reading errors" and "fast skip error blocks" 7. Now choose safedisc 2/3 in the draw down tab. (When you are backing up a game with this method, I don't even think it matters what protection mode you choose. I just use safedisc 2/3 and it works every time) 8. HIt next, (make sure to specify that the file format will be an ISO image)then begin the image writing. You will notice that at about 1.8mb, you will begin to see read error messages in the message box. Will will see that Alcohol 120 will "fast skip" these read errors. Infact, it will fast skip about 20mb of these errors very quickly. Just let the process continue. After the read errors are skipped you will see that the drive will begin to copy the disc at normal speed resulting in an error free iso image. Note: This technique works for any game as long as you have already installed the game and have it running in the backround. If you try this with out running the game first, you will get the problem where the drive will not read past the copyright read errors. Everybody should enjoy this information since it works on any game no matter what protection it has. Have fun
Running the game in the background has absolutely nothing to do with a burner's ability to write protections.
It matters. When you make an ISO it discards any extra information -- so whats the point of selecting the safedisc datatype??? In case you didnt know, a "proper" disc dump is supposed to have errors. That's the signiture for SD2/3 WTF? You've never properly backed up a game before have you? Or at least not a SecureROM game...... or a SafeDsic game... "noCDs" dont count as proper backups..... and "Safedisc Lite" doesnt count as "SafeDisc 2/3" -- least of all FarCry's 3.15 You're getting confused with running a DVD player in the background for obtaining CSS codes .... whole different ballgame _X_X_X_X_X_[small]ASUS A7N8X-X, XP2500+ OC'd to XP3200+ Samsung 1024MB, PC2700 OC'd to PC3200 480GB [3x160GB, 7200, 8MB] EVGA, GeForce4 Ti4600 128MB Rules and Policies: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/2487[/small]
Newbies, don't listen to these people who are trying to make the process to back up games to complicated. Sometimes knowing too much is the problem. I have made perfect backups of Halo, Painkiller, battlefield vietnam, syberia II, Far cry and more with the method above. By the way, for preator, I think I know what a back up copy is. After creating Iso images of the authentic disc, I can uninstall the game and reinstall it with the CD-R backups and everything works perfect. Try the technique above before you diss it.
Yeah newbies don't listen to us, you should really listen to dipstick here since he actually thinks what he's doing works! Thinking you know what you're doing is a problem. You only think you have and we told you why. Not a true backup. We've both done this enough to know that your "miracle method" doesn't work and that you're a real dum-dum to think it does and then get all uppity when we don't believe you
I am just trying to help zahampton out. I have the same drive he does and have had the same problems he is describing in the past. That is until I started doing what I described. You guys are telling him to buy a new drive that supports this sheep thing. If he is smart, he will listen to my advice. My definition of a TRUE back up is one that works. That is all that matters in the end. No need to get all defensive. If you think you know it all then you are already stopping yourself short of learning anything new. Didn't mean to offend anybody. Take care
Mentor11, I appreciate your contribution, and would be inclined to give it a shot if there weren't any cheap '2 sheep' drives available. Thanks to everyone for all the advice you've given me, it's been very helpful!
2-sheep burners are as cheap (and possibly cheaper) than their 1-sheep and 0-sheep counterparts. You can get a Liteon/ASUS for $35USD easy these days. Less if you look for a bit.
Look, The best way that i found to copy the DvD vertion of Far Cry Using my "Pioneer DVD-RW DVR-107D" was to use BlindWrite 5 to make a ISO and then using DAEMON Tools to read it as a virtal CD/DVD then using BlindWrite 5 to copy it from virtal CD/DVD to a blank DVDr. And i have no clue about this 2-sheep bullshit and dose not mean shit because the softwre will do all the work.
Thank you maco^king. These other fools are following the lines too closely. I have always believed that you do what it takes to make back ups work. If you have time, try my method sometime. take care
