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a question about nero noise reduction

Discussion in 'Audio' started by benbernie, Apr 1, 2012.

  1. benbernie

    benbernie Regular member

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    hi
    has anyone here ever used the the nero wave editor noise reduction?whats your opinion of it?is it good?

    benbernie
     
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    I haven't because I don't use Nero and I don't use noise reduction. However, noise reduction is not 'rocket science' anymore. I would trust it, on the other hand, I would mention most of what Nero does is usually half-assed. Audacity is free and well trusted.
     
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    o ok mez..thanks
     
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    Mez Active member

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    By the way, I should have asked what would you be using it for? Normally it is after converting analog to digital. Noise reduction only works on standard noises, such as a vinyl hiss, vinyl pop or radio static. It will not work for artifacts, noise created while ripping or transcodeing that shouldn't be there. If you have those kinds of noises, noise reduction will not work no matter what software you use.
     
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    hi
    im doing 78s..and i have pops and clicks to remove..


    ben
     
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    hi
    did u ever use cooledit pro for records?

    ben
     
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    Nero Wave Editor has a function for removing pops and clicks (as opposed to noise reduction). I'm using on old version but it's called Declicker and it's under the Enhancements menu. I find it works quite well.

    Noise reduction also works reasonably well if memory serves me correctly. Ideally you'd run a noise analysis on just a section of the audio which should be silent, but which contains noise. Then Nero uses the analysis to remove the noise from the entire audio. At least that's the way I remember it.

    Audacity also has similar click and noise removal filters. Wavosaur no doubt does too.
     
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    I have been using Acoustica products for about 10 years now and the spin it again program works great for noise reduction and removing the clicks and pops from vinyl and cassetes.It also splits your albums into separate tracks.

    http://www.acoustica.com/spinitagain/
     
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    thanks guys..

    ben
     
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    I leave the noise for 33s. I don't mind the pops and hiss because my records were not so bad. It reminds me where the music came from. 78s might tempt me. For those type of noises noise removal is supposed to work great not removing the music underneath like hiss filters do. I still don't trust noise removal. Plus that can be done at any time. I would take the time to burn a before and after to CDs then use the TAO analyzer in the top sticky. Make sure it isn't removing what it shouldn't.

    JST1946 how well does this part work?
    Automatically look up track information online for less typing!
    What database does it use?
    That alone would sell the product to me if it was better than freedb. Otherwise you can just use freedb and a splitter.
     
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    hi
    wheres the tao analyzer?do u think nero has gotten any better with age?

    ben
     
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    You just type in the artist and name of the album if you know what it is and it will search for the album information for you. You just need to match up the album with the one you loaded for splitting. Depending on where you live some albums have more tracks than the other so it might not match. Once you select one it will tell you if the albums are a match.I am pretty sure all the programs have a free trial and they are all very easy to use.The CD burner and label maker are really great also.They used to sell a gold bundle with about seven different programs with free updates. I would give them a try and see what you think.They have different types of noise reduction or removal that you can try before you burn the CD.
     
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    It likely uses freedb as the source. That is for CDs but will work if the album is identical.

    benbernie the top post/sticky (Audio expert) is loaded with links, one is to the Tao Analyzer.
     
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    thanks mez
     
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    I came across a guide for capturing 78s. It is a MUST READ! You can't capture exactly like a 33. Such as you need a 78 needle which is shaped differently than a 33. It suggests only using Audacity (from an Audacity site) because Audacity has tools specific for 78 clean up. This will be add-ons specific for the 78 label. 33s have a standard RIAA equalization while 78s have equalization specific to the manufacturer.

    Now I know why 78s sound so bad when played as a 33. The cleaned up captured audio will be superior to the 'live version' played on any system. There is a science just to cancel out RIAA equalization generated in the cartridge.

    Guide for capturing 78s
     
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    thanks mr mez..
     
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    Good, I even PMed you. You shouldn't be cleaning up 78s without reading it. The beauty of burning the raw waves to CD always works since you don't screw them up.
     
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    hi
    when i8 say "cleaning them up "i mean of clicks and pops and generall surface noise..

    benbernie
     
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    In theory it might matter. In reality it probably doesn't. It is easy to get carried away. Human hearing is not very good even if you think you are an expert.

    The theory is to get the sound to get the recording back to 'live sounding' then the noise reduction will work exactly as expected.
     
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    hi
    can u explaine the 2nd sentance more clearly?

    lenny
     

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