I have not used a PC to rip audio and do not to do any downloads. It seems that all the disks my wife has are in a cda extension. My burner [Cheetah] will not transfer or copy a .cda extension and I could not locate one that will. I would use one if it could do so. I have copied some purchased audio disks with a .cda extension, using a stand-alone DVD recorder [ilo RHD04]. These are DVD + R/RW disks that will play in home recorders, but are not CD- disks and do not play in a CD or car player. My object was to Copy some selected files, they would be CP free, than transfer them to some single disks using a stand-alone unit that would burn a CD – disk. It was felt that this was a hard and questionable way.. CDex was recommended to convert the files to wav or mpg, select them and than burn to a CD- disk in mpg and it should play ia in any system. Sounds Good, The Program Looks Good I downloaded Cdex and installed it When invoked from either the desktop or Explorer, It fails to load. The screen goes blue with the message A fatal exception 0Ehas occurred at 0028:C18DDEA9 in VXD (03} + 00000E39. Pressing any key returns the system to either the desktop or explorer. I cleaned the system, re-did the download and install, with the same result. The system meets the program requirements. OS- win 98 SE, latest upgrades, 512 mem Latest Adaptec drivers installed I’ve checked the program txt files and the system files. It seems that the required drivers are installed. wnaspi32.dll ----- in the windows/system/ -------------------dir apix.vxd -----------in the windows/system/IOSUBSYS/ --- dir I’ve gone over this many times and may have missed something I shouldn’t have. It would seem that the program should start even if some devices were not to its liking. Any suggestions.