Ok I used SmartRipper to get the .vob files. I used DVD2AVI to convert video and audio. I then used TMPGEnc to make the .mpg file. Now I use the latest version of Nero to create a playable DVD on my DVD player (not computer DVD). Using Nero I want to create a playable DVD -- using the wizard to create a menu. Once I import the .mpg to the menu the size is too large to fit on a 4.7gig DVD. Where am I going wrong? Is there another program I should be using? Thank you for your help.