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Microsoft botches still more patches in latest Automatic Update

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  1. ireland

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    How to remove installed Windows Updates and block them afterwards

    If you have installed the updates that Microsoft released on this patch day you may have noticed issues with your machine afterwards.

    Users on Windows 7 started to notice that Windows Defender would not start up anymore for example, and that the Diagnostic Tool of the operating system was not working correctly as well.

    Some users reported that Windows would not start at all anymore and several other issues such as that the Microsoft Management Console would ask for admin credentials while logged in as an admin or that the installation of Microsoft Security Essentials failed.

    The update that caused the issue this time is KB3004394. It is an update for the Windows Root Certificate Program which speeds up the updating of root certificates from once per week to once every 24 hours.

    Windows users who ran into issues with the update had no choice but to remove it from the system again. This guide walks you through the steps of uninstalling Windows Updates and blocking them from being installed automatically.

    Uninstall a Windows Update

    The way you do that works similar in all recent versions of Windows.

    1. Tap on the Windows-key on your keyboard and type remove a program.
    2. Select the result add or remove programs from the list of search results.
    3. This opens a Windows Control Panel window which lists all installed programs on the system.
    4. Select view installed updates on the left side of the window.
    5. This displays all updates installed on the system.
    6. You can use the search at the top now to find the update you are looking for, or browse the listing manually if you prefer it that way. If you do the second, click on the installed on header to sort the updates chronologically which often helps find the problematic update faster.
    7. Once you have located the update right-click it and select uninstall from the menu.
    8. This removes it from the system.
    9. Note that you may need to restart the PC before the process ends.



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    Microsoft Botches More Patches In Latest Automatic Update



    Posted by Soulskill on Wednesday September 11, 2013 @06:18PM
    from the we'll-do-it-live dept.
    snydeq writes "'No sooner did Microsoft release the latest round of Black Tuesday patches than screams of agony began sounding all over the Internet,' writes Woody Leonhard, reporting on verified problems with Microsoft Automatic Updates KB 2817630, KB 2810009, KB 2760411, KB 2760588, and KB 2760583. The latest round of MS Auto Update hell comes on the heels of one of the worst runs in MS Patch Tuesday history — and just in time for Microsoft to expand the scope of its automatic update damage. 'Does this make you feel warm and fuzzy about automatic app updates in Windows 8.1?'"
    http://tech.slashdot.org/story/13/0...utm_source=rss1.0mainlinkanon&utm_medium=feed

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    Microsoft botches still more patches in latest Automatic Update
    It must be Wretched Wednesday -- the day after Black Tuesday. Watch out for automatic patches KB 2817630, KB 2810009, KB 2760411, KB 2760588, and KB 2760583

    No sooner did Microsoft release the latest round of Black Tuesday patches, than screams of agony began sounding all over the Internet. At this point, I've seen verified problems with KB 2817630, KB 2810009, KB 2760411, KB 2760588, and KB 2760583. Here's what we know at this point.

    KB 2817630 is not a security patch, it's a gratuitously delivered functionality patch for Office 2013, and man has it had an impact on functionality. I've seen dozens of reports that installing this patch, possibly in conjunction with the KB 2810009 patch that is part of MS13-074, causes the folder pane in Outlook 2013 to disappear. An anonymous poster on the SANS Internet Storm Center offers this picture of the effect.

    [ For more Patch Tuesday hell, see 17 epic Windows Auto Update meltdowns. ]

    Thirteen hours after the first posts complaining about the problem appeared on the Microsoft TechNet forum, Microsoft still hasn't done anything. As of 00:15 a.m. PDT on Wednesday, Sept. 11, the patches are still available, still marked for automatic installation, and the KB articles have not been updated to reflect the screw-up.

    It appears as if uninstalling both patches will bring the folders back, although there's a more substantive workaround offered by one of the posters on the TechNet forum:

    This behaviour seems to be caused by using the latest version of the shared Office library mso.dll 15.0.4535.1002 from KB2817630 in combination with an outdated version of Outlook. Try installing KB2817503 to update Outlook to the matching version 15.0.4535.1004. I don't have the issue with the missing folder pane in this constellation. Updating Outlook with the August 2013 hotfix (KB2817503) restored the reading pane on multiple machines.

    KB 2760411, KB 2760588, and KB 2760583 are parts of the MS13-072 and MS13-073 security patches for Office 2007. There are many reports of the patches being offered and re-offered and re-re- ... you get the idea. On sevenforums, poster harin35 says:

    No error messages. Windows Update appears to install them; but the updates have not been installed. These are 'important' updates.When I run Windows Update again, these three updates reappear as 'important' updates.

    No guidance for handling the problem is on offer in the usual forums, because the people moderating the forums haven't a clue what went wrong and Microsoft isn't saying a thing.

    Again, as of 00:15 am PDT on Wednesday, Microsoft hadn't pulled any of the patches, nor had it updated the KB articles, posted any recommendations on the usual fora, issued a press release, or made one iota of effort to help its customers.

    Does this make you feel warm and fuzzy about automatic app updates in Windows 8.1? Terry Myerson, are you listening?

    http://www.infoworld.com/t/microsof...ore-patches-in-latest-automatic-update-226594

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    Microsoft botches six Windows patches in latest Automatic Update
    Microsoft acknowledges problems with KB 2876063, KB 2859537, KB 2873872, KB 2843638, KB 2843639, and KB 2868846, all released earlier this week

    n an amazing tour de force, Microsoft's Automatic Update chute released at least six bad patches on Tuesday. Here's what's amazing: It's just 48 hours or so since the bomb bay doors opened, and Microsoft has acknowledged problems with all of these patches. That's a first, I think -- and the biggest positive development in the Automatic Update minefield I've seen in a long time.

    The gory details:

    MS13-061/KB 2876063 -- a remote code execution hole in Exchange Server -- has been pulled. The problem only affects Exchange 2013. From the Exchange team blog:

    Late last night we became aware of an issue with MS13-061 security update for Exchange Server 2013. Specifically, after the installation of the security update, the Content Index for mailbox databases shows as Failed and the Microsoft Exchange Search Host Controller service is renamed. For those that have already installed the MS13-061 security update for Exchange Server 2013, we already have KB 2879739 that provides the steps on how to resolve this issue. However, due to this issue and that it affects all Mailbox server installations, we have decided to pull the MS13-061 security update temporarily. Note: This issue does not occur in Exchange 2010 or Exchange 2007.

    To give credit where due, Microsoft may or may not be the source of the problem. According to the SANS Internet Storm Center, "Oracle ... disclosed the vulnerabilities in their patch updates in April and July 2013. Microsoft licensed the vulnerable libraries from Oracle. There are also functional changes non security changes rolled up into this update."

    MS13-063/KB 2859537 -- another botched Windows Kernel patch -- has not been pulled (at least it's still being offered on the systems I work with), but Microsoft has acknowledged at least one problem in the KB article:

    Some users may experience issues with certain games after they install security update 2859537. In some cases, users may not successfully start and sign in to the games. Microsoft is researching this problem and will post more information in this article when the information becomes available.

    Apparently, with this patch applied, the game Rift crashes immediately after authentication, as does Defiance. Softpedia reports that the patch causes BSODs on Windows 7 systems. One poster on the Microsoft Answers forum says it triggers an Error 0xc0000005, and "it's not possible to run almost all applications include IE, Personalize screen, components from control panel and many other 'native windows features and applications.'" There's an avalanche of bug reports online, many in Russian.

    MS13-066/KB 2873872/KB 2843638/KB 2843639/KB 2868846 -- a cluster of security updates for Active Directory Federation Services -- have all been pulled. The explanation:

    Microsoft is aware of problems with the security updates described in MS13-066 that affect Active Directory Federation Services (ADFS) 2.0. The problems could cause ADFS to stop working. Microsoft has removed the updates for ADFS 2.0 from Windows Update and the Download Center. Microsoft is researching this problem and will post more information in this article when the information becomes available.

    In addition:

    You may experience functionality issues with security update 2843639 if you do not have update 2790338 already applied. We recommend that that customers who are experiencing these issues install update 2790338. For more information, click the following article number to view the article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base: 2790338 Description of Update Rollup 3 for Active Directory Federation Services (AD FS) 2.0

    Here's the punch line. The SANS Internet Storm Center religiously tracks which Microsoft patches cover holes that are publicly known. For this month's bunch, only two of the eight security bulletins -- MS13-061 and MS13-063 -- have known active exploits; the others have no publicly known exploits. You guessed it: Both security bulletins are causing major headaches.

    Microsoft has had no end of problems with patches lately, with at least four botched patches just last month. For a change, this time the company is fessing up to it -- quickly and as best I can tell accurately, and the mea culpas are posted where they're supposed to be posted.

    That's a start.
    http://www.infoworld.com/t/microsof...ows-patches-in-latest-automatic-update-224988
     
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  2. mikebird59

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    this mess is causing more problems for me, I cannot even get my pc started much less fix it! And yes, all was fine until black Tuesday. The reinstallation requests I did not get; evedently the hot mess was loaded the 1st time and after logoff, poof! cannot even log in today! I will be up all night working after my pc guy fixes this cluster you know what.
     
  3. aldan

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    thanks for the heads up ireland.i run windows 7 and office 2000 premium with the office 2007 compatibility pack and two of those updates applied to me.pretty shitty when you cant trust the so called experts huh?
     
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    not even safemode to access system restore

    back on topic

    It took a number of calamities around 10 years ago that made me decide to get into creating backup images apart from system no restore being useless in xp.There's a number of free imaging softwares this topic is good as any reason to start making them,however just one image won't be enough you need two or more on different hdd's in case of hdd failure & or corruption
     
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    I always use acronis to back up the day b4 the windows update
    I keep one years worth and I never install windows update on the day its out I wait a week..to see if there is a problem with the update..



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    Why all the errors in Microsoft updates lately?

    Summary: September makes 3 months in a row that Microsoft has issued buggy patches, 3 of which had to be pulled from distribution. Perhaps Microsoft has too many products to have one patch cycle.

    About a month ago I wrote a column celebrating the great things that Patch Tuesday has done for customers and the industry. I still believe in it, but I couldn't have picked a worse time to write it. In the weeks that followed, Microsoft customers have experienced a reign of error under Windows Update.

    A few days after my column appeared, Microsoft was forced to withdraw two August patches, beginning with a patch for Outlook Web Access in Exchange Server. The buggy code in this patch turns out, ironically, to be written by Oracle, but that's neither here nor there: Microsoft delivered it as part of their product and it caused problems on Exchange Server 2013. The second patch they withdrew was for ADFS (Active Directory Federation Services), but they re-released it a few days later.

    The Exchange Server update wasn't re-released until late in August, at which point they also re-released a separate July patch for Windows Media Services that had not been withdrawn.

    Anyone can have one bad month I guess, but it didn't end there. Yesterday Microsoft pulled a buggy non-security update to Outlook 2013. They explained the problem and what was happening in a Technet blog entry, but it's still not over.

    There was at least one more buggy patch in September, described in this support Microsoft forum and this Technet thread. The problem seems to be related to the patch for MS13-074, a security update for Access. I was a victim of this one. The first thing I saw was that I couldn't load any Office (2013) apps. I got the same unhelpful "something went wrong" error message.

    The problem most users report is that, even after installing the patch, Windows Update reports that it is not installed. Even if you manually install the standalone version of the patch, which appears to install correctly, Windows Update still reports that you need to install it. Go to Programs and Features and look at the installed updates and you'll see the update there (designated by its KB number, KB2810009). You can uninstall it and try again, but it won't make a difference. I wasn't able to run Office programs again until I used System Restore to revert the system back to pre-Patch Tuesday. I haven't seen a response from Microsoft on this one.

    Two bad months in a row? And not too long ago, in April, Microsoft had to call on Windows 7 users to uninstall an update that was crashing systems. This level of quality is atypical.



    READ MORE HERE
    http://www.zdnet.com/why-all-the-errors-in-microsoft-updates-lately-7000020628/
     
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    buggers will do anything to push us to win 8.lol.
     
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    not when some of these updates are for win8.
     
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    yeah,only two of them were applicable to me.
     
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    i'm running both xp & win7 computers.
     
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    Troubleshoot problems with installing updates
    Applies to Windows 7


    An automatic troubleshooter is available that fixes some problems with Windows Update, and it might resolve this error for you.
    To run a Windows Update troubleshooter

    Click this button:

    Picture of a Fix it buttonFix this problem

    In the File Download dialog box, click Run, and then follow the steps in the wizard.

    Open Windows Update, and try to install the update again.

    If that didn't work, here are solutions to some common problems with installing updates.
    Show all
    I tried to install updates but one or more didn't get installed.
    How will I know what updates have been installed?
    I keep being offered an update from Windows that I don’t want or that I already removed.
    I hid an update and now I want to install it.
    I restored hidden updates but I can’t find the one that I want to install.
    My computer was turned off during a scheduled update.
    I keep getting prompted to restart my computer to finish installing updates.
    I installed updates (or a driver update) and now one of my devices doesn't work.
    I tried these troubleshooting steps, but I still can't solve the problem. What should I do next?
    http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/Troubleshoot-problems-with-installing-updates


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    ireland, do you want this thread stickied so that anymore ms update botches goes into this thread instead of making another thread on the next botchup?
     
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    Microsoft reissues September patches after user complaints
    A fix to fix the fixes that didn't


    Problems with Microsoft's last round of operating system and application patches have forced the company to reissue part of the update on Friday.

    "Since the shipment of the September 2013 Security Bulletin Release, we have received reports of updates being offered for installation multiple times, or certain cases where updates were not offered via Windows Server Update Services (WSUS) or System Center Configuration Manager (SCCM)," said Redmond's Office team in a blog post.

    "We have investigated the issue, established the cause, and we have released new updates that will cease the unnecessary re-targeting of the updates or the correct offering of these updates."
    Register readers – and many other Microsoft users – started complaining about the patches shortly after their release on Tuesday. Some readers reported detection issues that left servers stuck in a loop of patching when the updates weren't recognized, while others reported being unable to install flaw fixes.

    Eight patches have now been reissued, covering security flaws in Excel, SharePoint Server, and Office suites going back to 2007. Two non-security patches for PowerPoint have also been reissued.

    Unusually for Microsoft, not all the patches it promised for Patch Tuesday were in the final release, with one being pulled for quality-control issues. El Reg suspects there have been some harsh exchanges between management and the software testing teams at Redmond.



    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/09/13/microsoft_reissues_september_patches_after_user_complaints/

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    ireland, do you want this thread stickied so that anymore ms update botches goes into this thread instead of making another thread on the next botchup?
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    It might be a good idea as the way microsoft is going..with the bad patches.
     
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    stickied
     
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    Event Type: Error
    Event Source: System Error
    Event Category: (102)
    Event ID: 1003
    Date: 9/14/2013
    Time: 2:14:56 AM
    User: N/A
    Computer: SHANNON-BAFBD38
    Description:
    Error code 1000007e, parameter1 c0000005, parameter2 af586978, parameter3 f78d2b74, parameter4 f78d2870.

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    SOMETHING IS GOING ON WITH MICROSOFT ARE THEY TRYING TO SCREW UP XP WITH THE UPDATES.SO THAT WE GO TO WIN-8

    I STILL DID NOT VUPDATE MY WIN-7

    THIS ERROR SHOWED UP ON XP AFTER I USED WINDOWS UPDATE WHEN I REBOOTED MY COMPUTER AFTER THE UPDATE
    NOTE I HAD NO ERRORS FOR OVER A YEAR ON MY XP..
     
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    Microsoft fixes bad patch detection

    Summary: Several of the security updates released by Microsoft this past Tuesday repeatedly offered themselves even after installation. This has been fixed. If you have hidden the update, unhide it and install.



    One of the many problems Microsoft has had lately with their software updates is that several of the updates in the last group, released on Tuesday September 10, had a detection error: For many users, even after apparently accepting and installing the update, several would keep offering for install in Windows Update, Windows Server Update Services (WSUS) or System Center Configuration Manager (SCCM).

    The company has reissued the following patches to address the problem:

    MS13-067 (Critical) — Vulnerabilities in Microsoft SharePoint Server Could Allow Remote Code Execution (2834052)
    MS13-072 (Important) — Vulnerabilities in Microsoft Office Could Allow Remote Code Execution (2845537)
    MS13-073 (Important) — Vulnerabilities in Microsoft Excel Could Allow Remote Code Execution (2858300)
    MS13-074 (Important) — Vulnerabilities in Microsoft Access Could Allow Remote Code Execution (2848637)

    Microsoft says that there are no changes in the actual updates, just in the detection of the update on the system. Customers who have already successfully installed the update need not take any action.

    Many users hid the update in order to avoid the notifications. These users should unhide the update and install.
    http://www.zdnet.com/microsoft-fixes-bad-patch-detection-7000020676/
     
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    Microsoft rushes out security patch for Internet Explorer


    Normally, Microsoft releases security bulletins for software products on the second Tuesday of each month. That happened last week as scheduled, but today the company announced it has rushed out an additional patch designed to fix an exploit that has been found in Internet Explorer, and is being used in attacks on IE8 and IE9.

    In a post on its security response blog, Microsoft says the issue would allow a hacker to launch a remote code execution if a person surfs to a website using IE that contains malicious code. The blog adds, "There are only reports of a limited number of targeted attacks specifically directed at Internet Explorer 8 and 9, although the issue could potentially affect all supported versions. "

    The company has released a "Fix-it" patch, "CVE-2013-3893 MSHTML Shim Workaround" to plug this security hole in all currently supported versions of IE. In addition, Microsoft recommends that users set their security settings on the web browser to "High" to block any ActiveX Controls and Active Scripting on websites. It also recommends users set up IE so that it informs them ahead of time before running any Active Scripting features. The company plans to release a full security patch that will be a more complete solution to this problem in the near future.

    http://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-rushes-out-security-patch-for-internet-explorer
     
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    I noticed something odd going on last time Microsoft updated. It went through the update process at least three times. I was beginning to think it would never finish.

    I don't use IE anymore since it became virtually unusable a few months ago. I use FireFox now, although I'm not entirely happy with it. I'm thinking of moving to Opera.
     
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    if you like chrome based browsers comodo dragon is pretty good.
     
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    I never considered Google Chrome and for that reason Comodo Dragon after I tried Google Picassa Graphics Editor - it locked my computer up big time. I decided that if they can't make a reliable Graphics Editor then I can't rely on anything else they make.

    Are you saying Opera is Chrome based?

    -P
     

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