Problem with Audio Sync in TMPGEnc

Try this:
Encode the video in tmpgenc as a standard NTSC video, WITH audio.
Change the framerate on the Settings tab, to 25fps.
This creates an NTSC standard aspect of 720x480, but at the 25fps PAL rate.
Author it, and burn to a DVDRW.
I'll bet it plays perfectly in your standalone.

If it does NOT:
Demux, run the m2v through dgpulldown, 25fps -> 29.97fps
Author the demuxed mp2 audio and the dgpulldown.m2v
Burn to DVDRW, and test.
It should also play, but I need to know if it's out of sync, and how.
Does video come before audio, or after?

 

I think we are on 2 different subjects - I had originally asked you about a 23.976 avi then asked you about a pal avi
The one I'm having problem with is the 23.976 avi but I found after loading them into DVDLab that I actually encoded them wrong !
So now I'm encoding again and will try to burn again.
The audio was wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy after the video badly.
I also left you a private message.

 

OK, we were on two different topics there.
I was thinking it was the PAL avi giving the trouble.
If it's the NTSC one (VBR mp3 audio, right?), then you can mess with the audio in Goldwave, until it's just right.
This can take hours of trial and error.
I like to use Soundforge, because I can see the video at the same time, but it's expensive.
Anyhow, if you DO get one of those stubborn PAL ones, just try the settings I mentioned. 99% of recent dvd players have no trouble playing a 25fps file on your NTSC television.

 

How do I keep the aspect ratio in MainConcept? Do I have to resize and add borders in VirtualDub then frameserve to MainConcept??
MainConcept stretches it to fit the screen - but its MUCH Faster than TMPGEnc. Currently TMPGEnc says its gonna take 3 hours to encode a 43 min avi and I have it set to precision search method fast. Is Program Video different than Elementary Video?
I can't get ProCoder to do what I want. I was able to get an evaluation copy but all it does is crash when you get to the last step to start the encoding. I'm happy with MainConcept if I can get it to stop stretching.

 

Resize in virtualdub to the nearest aspect as the original, but make sure it's 4:3
If the original is PAL, resize it to 4:3 NTSC by adding borders.
I'll leave you to figure out the math, as I have no idea what YOUR source file frame sizes are.

 

You have TOTALLY lost me now - maybe if you explain (which maybe you already have I am lost again) but if you could do it 1 more time I would appreciate it
My SOURCE file is : 624x352 23.976 and I don't see anything in GSpot that says 4:3 but the FAR is 1.773 (39:322) the PAR is 1.000 and the DAR is 1.773 (39:322) does that tell you anything?
What I thought was open the avi in VirtualDub, disable the audio, go to filters - add - Resize - then change the properties to 720x480 and click the box to add borders and then frameserve to MainConcept at DVD NTSC 23.976 with 3:2 pulldown to make it 29.97 - am I wrong?

Also what is the differene in elementery and program video??
Did you get that file I sent?

I'm sorry to be such a pain !

 

Yes
DAR is what you are looking at. In this case 624x352 is anamorphic widescreen. To make it correct, you need to resize it and add borders.
In this case, take 720, divided by 624, equals 1.154
352 times 1.154 equals 406.
In virtualdub, video, filters, add, resize, and make it 720x406.
Add borders top and bottom, so it's 720x480.
Frameserve to mainconcept, encode at 23.976 with 3:2 pulldown (select it on the Details, Advanced, Advanced Video tab.)
Elementary will output separate video/audio or both. Program is a muxed mpg.

I got the file, thanks

 

I've tried frameserving to MainConcept and all I get is a green screen for output. I've checked, re-checked, double-checked the process for frameserving and it only gives me a green screen

 

Is it necessary when resizing in VirtualDub to adjust the width? The reason I ask is when I encode in TMPGEnc its adding black on bottom, top and sides.
Also, I'm still unable to frameserve to MainConcept - I woulda sworn I did it once but I can't get it to work now.

I think I figured it out, I need the VFAPI converter right?

 

If you're getting borders on the sides, then you do not have the settings on the Advanced tab in tmpgenc set right.
Make it 1:1 VGA, and keep aspect ratio 2.

Yes, you need the vfapi reader.

 

Thank You
One of these days I'll get all this down. Have you tested that program yet?? What do you think?

I am selecting 1:1 VGA and Keep Aspect Ratio 2 and its still adding borders on the side.
Should I not be encoding to 16:9?? I thought you told me this video was 16:9?


Okay I just re-read your post and you didn't tell me it was 16:9 you told me it was panaramic widescreen - SORRY

 

Heh. No, don't encode it to 16:9 unless you actually own a 16:9 widescreen TV. Encode to 4:3
That's the whole point of the resizing, get it to 4:3 aspect (720x480) and add the correct borders so it shows up on the TV correctly, not stretched.

 

Well right I'm having problems with my pc and HP is telling me to do a system restore and I think there full of it !!!!!!!!
Everytime I have a problem thats there solution. I think a LOT of my problem is SP2 - I have windows xp here on a disk without SP2 and I'm thinking about re-installing but I don't know if I will lose everything. Ive asked HP - but they haven't responded.

Hey - thanks so much for your help I may be back again after I get my pc fixed.

 

Yes, you can safely roll back.
Look in add/remove programs in control panel, see if SP2 is there.
If so, you can remove it.
You could then do an "over the top" install, with a regular XP disk. This retains all your current settings, but replaces all the system files.
It's painless, and I can give you instructions if you'd like.
I've done it a hundred times on customer's computers.

 

Yesssssssssssss, I'm un-installing SP2 right now and would love to re-install just windows without SP2. If you want email me - if you don't still have my email just let me know and I will send again.
Thanks sooooooooooo much

 

It's easy, I'll just post here:

Insert the CD, and restart the computer.
Make sure the BIOS is set to boot from the CD.
Start the install, and follow the prompts, just as if it was a completely NEW installation.
You will be prompted if you want to repair using the Repair Console.
Select NO!!!!
Keep going, and it will prompt you to hit F8 to agree to the license.
The very next screen, will prompt you if you want to repair a current installation, and it should list your current one on the screen.
Hit "R" to start the repair.
Have the licensce code handy, as you'll have to enter that.
You will also be prompted to activate your installation. Go ahead and do that too.
The only thing left to do, is get ALL the updates, EXCEPT SP2!!!

 

OK - Wish me luck !

Do I need to get a pop-up blocker now?? What else will I be losing of any significance in not doing SP2?

 

You can still download and install MS's anti-spy software, just don't get the full SP2.
You won't get WMP10, just WMP9, which (imho) is a good thing.

 

Ok-I'm back up and running !! So far so good

 

Well I re-installed windows but it didn't solve my problem. HP says I need to do a 'complete' restore which I DO NOT want to do.
Anyways, I installed the VFAPI converter (this is what started all my problems) and I frameserve from VirtualDub and open the vdr file in VFAPI and convert I get a bunch of ?????, well it makes a file and I try to open that in MainConcept and it tells me there is no video.

What am I doing now???