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Discussion in 'DVDR' started by snoopydog, Dec 20, 2004.

  1. snoopydog

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    my discs keep skipping after they are burnt. it only happens to a couple but still. i burn at 2.4 x and leave plenty of space on dvd shrink (like each movie is only 3700).


    what do you suggest each has covers on them.
     
  2. ScubaPete

    ScubaPete Senior member

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    Hi snoopydog,


    What media are you using and what size is your "target size" set too ?

    Finally, what proggys are you working with ?

    Pete

     
  3. dub393

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    Scuba Pete

    I am also having the same problem. I have fuji dvd-r discs and I am using DVD shrink. I was able to burn one dvdr in reauthor mode and it didnt have any problem. Every movie since has had had problems. The beggings are fine but midway through it starts skipping and then not working at all. DVD Shrink burns with nero. I tried dvd decryptor but never burned with it. My target size is on the 4.7 gb discs.
     
  4. snoopydog

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    i\my target size is 3700 mb or 3.7 gigs.

    value discs from office max
     
  5. colw

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    If by covers you mean labels - this is a big nonono.

    Label tend to unbalance disk and cause heat problems - would also suggest some quality media e.g., Ritek, Verbatim.
     
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    1st, I would try updating the firmware on your DVD-Burner

    2nd, I would leave the computer alone while it's ripping/shrinking.

    3rd, Rip using the recorder instead of the DVD drive (if you have a seperate one)
     
  7. dub393

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    Is there a common site where you can find firmware updates? I have a toshiba laptop and i cant find firmware on there website.
     
  8. snoopydog

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    so does that explain why some work and some dont cuz of the cover. some are unbalanced and some arent.
     
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    The most likely culpret of the skipping issue is the brand of media you are using or the compression of the movie's in Shrink. Of your DVD's that are skipping how far was the compression on these movies?

    Updating firmware is always a good thing, but it is highly unlikely that this is the cause of your skipping.

    If your movies only skip towards the end of the movie then you should adjust your target size in Shrink.
    [bold]Setting up Shrink to Burn to 4364MB[/bold]

    1. Open Shrink
    2. Click on “Edit”
    3. Click on “Preferences”
    4. Under Target DVD size select “Custom”
    5. Type in “4364” without the quotes
    6. Click “OK”

    this will usually solve the problem people have when there disks are skipping or freezing up during the later part of a movie. It can also solve burning in ISO mode problems

    Good luck :) Let us know how everything turns out
     
  10. snoopydog

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    ok i just figured the wierdest thing out. i went to go see try some backups to see if others skip. some that i have watched the backup copy and it never skipped now skip. it is super wierd that this is happening.


    i believe personally it is the covers which i will stop doing. but to relize the the 30 discs i backed up i probally gotta throw out. i paid so much to do this and they end up not working.


    any help anyone have the same problem with discs or covers.
     
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    If they played before with covers what could have changed with regards to the covers to make them start skipping? I have heard people having trouble with label's on thier disk's, but not after a certain time. This would ushually have to do with poor media brand. Or maybe your player is just having troubles?
    Try cleaning the laser lens on your player and see if this helps
     
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  12. snoopydog

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    ok i tried more discs. it seems they all went bad at the exact same time its really wierd. i played a non backed up movie and it worked fine. would it be normal for a real dvd to work and a backup not to work. could that be a lense problem? please any help at all thanks
     
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    If I had to guess I would say
    90% sure it is the brand of media you used
    5% care and handeling of the media
    5% Label on the disks
     
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    Try removing the labels and see how they play - still believe that this is your major problem.
     
  15. snoopydog

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    thank you for your help.

    i believe it is the laser because they work on a diffrent dvd player. thanks
     
  16. snoopydog

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    has this happened to anyone else?
     
  17. snoopydog

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    bump

    please im getting a lens cleaner tonight.
     
  18. ScubaPete

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    I would put my money on the media you're using. When we say try different discs we don't mean to take them off the bottom of the stack - we mean buy some quality discs. As of yet, nobody has addressed what to use - a little lesson perhaps ?

    Let's take Memorex as an excellent example as DVD media goes, 90% of Memorex, made by CMC, is sub-standard as far as DVD backups are concerned, figures as high as 50% coasters have been reported (One member bought a stack of 50 and got 23 good burns.), not what I would call an impressive record. Memorex made a name for itself with their magnetic tapes (VHS and audio cassettes) and have been living off it ever since. There are 4 different companies that manufacture Memorex DVD's BTW and product quality varies widely as you might imagine. Only 10% of the Memorex out there, those are discs manufactured by Mitsubishi in the 25 pack spindle , and they're the exception – they are the good ones. It's easy to see now why the quality of a big-named company can’t be trusted - “ Who’s making your Memorex tonight ?”

    Is it just Memorex ? No ! I just used Memorex as an example, Princo, Orange Pack, Great AZO and most "store" discs aren’t all that suitable as a DVD backup media – that’s why we are specific in the type of media we are recommending.

    1. * Cheap media freezes, skips, pixelats and may refuse to be recognized by both burners and players :-( Besides "Freezing", "skips" many times you’ll get a “Cyclic Redundancy error” or an "I/O error". This message can mean that your discs are scratched or dirty, it can also mean that your burner won’t accept your “cheap” media :-(
    Another problem which, “Pops up” is a “*Power Calibration Error”. This can stop you right in your tracks and most often is caused by, Yep, you guessed it, inexpensive media. *A “Power Calibration Error” can also be attributed to the Optical Components of a DVD Writer, though this isn’t usually the case.

    Orange Pack, Princo, Great AZO and 90% of Memorex plus many others are just not that good for DVD burning. Those same discs however, are quite good for your MP3 music, picture archives, Spread sheets and Data..Even DataSafe G04’s made by Ritek have been reported as an inferior quality media and are evoking that “Oh no, I shouldn’t have gotten those.”

    What we are suggesting is to download this DVD Identifier to find out who manufactured your DVD and if it's a decent quality.

    http://dvd.identifier.cdfreaks.com/

    Once you have your disc identified, click the "More information" icon and see what information you're given. if you're not sure of the quality, come on back and we'll check it out for you -

    2. A good grade, Hi-quality media is needed for DVD reproduction ! RiData, Sony, TDK, "Branded" Ritek G04's or "Branded" Verbatim Data Life, Verbatim DataLife plus, Taiyo Yuden's and generally, almost any discs manufactured by Mitsubishi or RICOH are excellent bets. Among the better discs we're looking for, any media boasting "Advanced Metal AZO" - BUT it must say "METAL" AZO !, this indicates a superior dye and dye application on a good composite disc, while they are sometimes a bit "pricey" they are just the type of media we're looking for to do our DVD backups, Prices online from Meritline.com OR Newegg.com have gotten Ritek G04 starting at about a $ .45 (USD) a disc –

    For DVD backups, purchasing inexpensive media or even average media is a gamble, some people win BUT the majority lose, they lose varying amounts true but, they still lose :-(

    Using good grade media can guarantee you one thing to an absolute certainty; it surely cannot hurt.

    In an effort to clear the air, when I speak of "Cheap" or "Inexpensive" media, I'm not referring to the price you pay at the counter - I'm referring to poor quality control used during manufacturing and the quality of the dye, dye application or composite type used. I'm not saying it won't burn - Some may burn, some may not. It's quality is inconsistent, meaning it's not dependable. To make matters worse, many times the discs that you do burn may play in your PC BUT your standalone player may not accept them – what good then is a backup DVD that cannot be watched on a DVD player ?

    When I say "Branded," that means that when you pick up a disc in your hand, it says "Ritek" or "RiData" on the disc itself. The monetary cost of the media we recommend many times is cheaper than what you are purchasing now.

    We like to verify our information prior to recommending things. There are certain things we look at. For instance, when their dye and dye application are listed as unknown, this almost guarantees us they are using whatever they can get at a cheap price. Companies that use quality materials like to BRAG about it, naming names and staying with quality manufacturers who produce their media.

    Using DVD identifier and MediaMatch can help you find out a lot about what you're using. Purchasing your DVD media online can insure that you're getting quality merchandise at a good price. Shopping wisely will save you time, aggravation and money.


    AFA labels, I've done almost 400 discs in the last year and they all have labels. I feel that as long as you use a professional appliacator you shouldn't have any problem. When you apply them by hand you'll probably have them unbalanced which means they won't play from beginning to end. Throwing them away seems silly, but letting the kids play with them would be fine. (Unless you are the kids :)

    Cheers all,

    Pete



    Cheers,

    Pete
     
  19. snoopydog

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    i forgot to post this yesterday but i went and tried the movies on a diffrent dvd player that night.....and they worked. so then yesterday i tried the same movies that skipped on mine again and they worked this time. on my dvd player which the night before they skipped. now that is probally the wierdest thing.
     
  20. dub393

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    Scuba Pete,

    I tried the dvd identifier but it didnt really provide me any information that i found to be vital. It basically just listed what my dvd is. The more info button did not really tell me anything either. I guess i was expecting to see something flash out at me quality wise.

    I have FujiFilm discs and it says they are created by ProDisc. I had done some research online, at dvdhelp.com, and these discs had got pretty good reviews...so i dont know what the problem would be..
     

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