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Verify fails. Should I get a Refund on this Liteon?

Discussion in 'DVD / Blu-ray drives' started by ArchFelin, Oct 6, 2011.

  1. ArchFelin

    ArchFelin Member

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    I have had my Liteon for a day and I have a month to return it for a refund.

    I burn/verify a dual layer game. The Liteon cannot read what it just wrote. Bad drive? Log A below

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    Edit. Now I am trying to burn a GameCube game on mini. I can burn the game on DVD+R so why can I not burn it accurately on mini? When I verify the mini get the popup box "Your drive seems to be having trouble initialising the disk it has just burnt. (Whose idea is the British spellings?)Until it can, no software will be able to access what's on it. Would you like to try cycling the tray again"? Log B below.


    Log A

    W 18:59:39 Waiting for device to become ready...
    I 18:59:54 Device Ready!
    I 18:59:54 Operation Started!
    I 18:59:54 Source Device: [0:0:0] ATAPI iHAS424 B GL1A (G:) (USB)
    I 18:59:54 Source Media Type: DVD+R DL (Book Type: DVD-ROM) (Disc ID: RITEK-D01-01)
    I 18:59:54 Source Media Supported Write Speeds: 2.4x
    I 18:59:54 Image File: E:\blah, blah.iso
    I 18:59:54 Image File Sectors: 4,155,840 (MODE1/2048)
    I 18:59:54 Image File Size: 8,511,160,320 bytes
    I 18:59:54 Image File Volume Identifier: blah, blah
    I 18:59:54 Image File File System(s): Special
    I 18:59:54 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / MAX
    I 18:59:55 Verifying Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 4155839)
    I 18:59:55 Verifying Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 4155839)
    I 18:59:55 Verifying Layer 0... (LBA: 0 - 2084959)
    I 19:08:59 Verifying Layer 1... (LBA: 2084960 - 4155839)
    W 19:09:17 Failed to Read Sector 2084961 - Reason: L-EC Uncorrectable Error
    W 19:16:36 Retrying (1)...
    W 19:16:43 Retry Failed - Reason: L-EC Uncorrectable Error
    E 19:16:49 Failed to Read Sector 2084961 - Reason: L-EC Uncorrectable Error
    E 19:16:49 Failed to Verify Sectors!
    I 19:16:52 Exporting Graph Data...
    I 19:16:52 Graph Data File: C:\Documents and Settings\blah, blah\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\ATAPI_iHAS424_B_GL1A_THURSDAY-OCTOBER-06-2011_6-15_PM_RITEK-D01-01_2.4x.ibg
    I 19:16:52 Export Successfully Completed!
    E 19:16:52 Operation Failed! - Duration: 00:16:55
    I 19:16:52 Average Verify Rate: 4,116 KB/s (3.0x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 11,159 KB/s
    (8.1x)


    Log B

    I 19:52:35 Write Speed Successfully Set! - Effective: 5,540 KB/s (4x)
    I 19:52:36 Advanced Settings - Force HT: No, Online HT: No, OverSpeed: No, SmartBurn: Yes
    I 19:52:36 Filling Buffer... (40 MB)
    I 19:52:38 Writing LeadIn...
    I 19:53:13 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 712879)
    I 19:53:13 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 712879)
    I 19:59:30 Synchronising Cache...
    I 19:59:53 Exporting Graph Data...
    I 19:59:53 Graph Data File: C:\Documents and Settings\blah, blah\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\ATAPI_iHAS424_B_GL1A_THURSDAY-OCTOBER-06-2011_7-52_PM_RITEKG04_01_MAX.ibg
    I 19:59:53 Export Successfully Completed!
    I 19:59:53 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:07:17
    I 19:59:53 Average Write Rate: 3,781 KB/s (2.7x) - Maximum Write Rate: 5,671 KB/s (4.1x)
    I 19:59:53 Cycling Tray before Verify...
    W 20:00:00 Waiting for device to become ready...
    W 20:01:03 Device Not Ready - No Reference Position Found
    W 20:01:03 Retrying (1 of 3)...
    I 20:01:03 Cycling Tray before Verify...
    W 20:01:08 Waiting for device to become ready...
    W 20:02:12 Retry Failed - Reason: No Reference Position Found
    W 20:02:12 Retrying (2 of 3)...
    I 20:02:12 Cycling Tray before Verify...
    W 20:02:16 Waiting for device to become ready...
    W 20:03:20 Retry Failed - Reason: No Reference Position Found
    W 20:03:20 Retrying (3 of 3)...
    I 20:03:20 Cycling Tray before Verify...
    W 20:03:25 Waiting for device to become ready...
    W 20:04:28 Retry Failed - Reason: No Reference Position Found
    W 20:23:47 Retrying (4)...
    I 20:23:47 Cycling Tray before Verify...
    W 20:23:51 Waiting for device to become ready...
    W 20:24:55 Retry Failed - Reason: No Reference Position Found
    E 20:30:37 Device Not Ready - Reason: No Reference Position Found
    E 20:30:37 Operation Aborted!
     
    Last edited: Oct 6, 2011
  2. mac2012

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    I think you should because they are not great drives. I know because my computer is custom built and I bought one and it broke two days later and if you read reviews about them they are generally bad.

    And you are trying to initialize the cd, It must be CD/RW or DVD/RW and if it is not you can't

    I hope this helps
     
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  3. scorpNZ

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    I believe ritek are garbage discs i.e very poor quality,you will find many posts round here with imgburn logs of ritek & answers mentioning disc quality
     
  4. ArchFelin

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    I will try on better media as soon as it is delivered. I am getting Taiyo Yudens and Verbatims. I also contacted Liteon Technical Support by email.

    I am skeptical but some cars run best on gasahol; some on regular non gasahol and some on high octane. It could be the same for burners. It could just be that this unit only works on 16cm DVD+R.

    My pack of Verbatim DVD+R DL arrived and I managed to burn and verify Xenoblade Chronicles. I did change some settings according to a topic that I read on this link.
    http://www.modmasters.net/content/view/54/30/.

    I am going to see if the Ritek will work with the new settings. I also need to check whether my Wii with Wasabi Zero will play the new disk.

    With the new settings the Ritek DVD+R DL also burns & verifies. The Wii is not recognizing the Verbatim or the Ritek. It may be settings still or it may be the Wasabi Zero.

    For the 8cm DVD-R I am getting Phillips. I will know when the pack arrives whether it is just a Ritek under another name.
     
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  5. omegaman7

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    I use Ritek discs when I have to, but I do acknowledge that Ritek media is not A grade media. I wouldn't even call it B grade media. But that does depend on the burner. My NEC chipped optiarcs do nicely with them. Not one coaster. I definitely prefer Taiyo Yuden and Verbatims though. Both of them will likely last many years to come. And Taiyo Yuden's compatibility is unparallelled. Verbatim is damn close though ;)

    I've had my share of lite-on drives. And so far, only 2 of them have behaved in a fashion, that could make the company proud. I may have a third, but I hate to say it just yet. There was a defect on a recent blu-ray disc that I ripped to my hard drive. It slowed WAYYYY down, to focus on reading it. I was smiling when it did that. Because when I first bought it, it would breeze right through imperfections, ignoring them. It's almost as though it needed time. Some of it's first ripped discs, introduced pixellation (Blockiness) into the video. I've had other drives of theirs do that in the past. But since it's a blu-ray drive, I knew it was possible that all the bugs may not be worked out yet. Besides I love troubleshooting stuff.

    Again about the Ritek... I wouldn't really call them garbage discs, but you should be sure that your burner/firmware was built with them in mind. Obviously Optiarcs (NEC chipped) are very good at just about everything they burn. I can't wait til they have a Blu-ray burner! I realize there are a few models in the wild, but there's no confirmation on what chip is in the drives.

    If drives don't like media, they will show it. Stopping during the burn process, not acknowledging the disc, etc. I've had my LG BD burner stick its nose up at a few blu discs. But I also think it may be outliving its usefulness :(

    P.s. I've had bad luck with philips. Very bad indeed. Their blu ray discs appear O-K, but who knows about longevity.
     
  6. ps355528

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    I wouldn't be too harsh on Philips drives.. I have an antique +r only one from 10 years ago that (with a couple of odd bugs) still makes great burns.

    Trying to "verify" an off system disk or even a burned video standard dvd will very often fail because the burning software "pads out" the disk to complete sectors whereas an image on a hdd doesn't have to be. Classic is old xbox games.. can't be seen by a pc drive, and burns show no data either but will copy fine..

    The ONLY way to test if you are making working burns is to test them IN THE DEVICE YOU BURNED THEM FOR!!! .. trying a "verify" on the burner will 90% of the time fail UNLESS you have previously "padded" the image file to a "full disk sector" standard for the reasons stated above..

    We used to call lite-on burners "shite-on" .. and I won't touch them regardless of reviews.. NEC or Samsung for me :).
     
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    My first lite-on I bought in 2007, because a buddy had a very good one. It was able to read a disc, where mine(NEC ND3550) was not. I did smoke like a chimney around it though. That's why I gave them a shot. My first one saw 800 - 1200 discs easy. I believe most of my current burners have seen at least that though :S But my lite-on didn't have the benefit of a highly cooled computer case :)

    It's just my luck with philips. SOme people have no trouble with them. I bought some 2.4X +R's a while back. I believe they were CMC MAG discs. 40% of them trash. Stick a verbatim in the drive, and they'd always come out perfect. In fact I could overspeed Dual layer discs with that baby :D Unfortunately I started getting audio sync issues with that drive.
     
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    By me too! Friggin spammers!
     
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  11. ArchFelin

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    I kept my Lite-On. It took me a while to get up to snuff.

    I looked at the picture which came with my Laser cleaner, GTcoupe, and noticed that I had forgotten to wiggle it with the handle. There was a smear on the pad when I removed it and the Wii now reads the dual layers.

    Summary

    Download from LiteOn which updates firmware
    Use Verbatim DVD+R DL
    Set IMGburn to perform OPC before write, plus settings from the link above, and of course booktype = DVD-rom
    Clean the Wii Laser with GTcoupe and wiggle
     

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