**EDIT** @ goddess1 or whatever -- and that makes spying on somebody okay!? and i said UN not US. and hell... obviously i don't... i rarely even talk to them (they are not my type) @ ireland -- how do you know that both of them are not just kidding you?
I was in an ICT lesson in which I have finished the work and had permission to use the net. Well, I'd be worried if I was 15 with kids, thanks. And yes, you're right. But, that does not mean I have no sense or morals, rights and such. There's a difference between looking out for someone/thing, and then invading their privacy. Fine line, maybe, but it's there to see nevertheless. Lol, tell your child to get a hobby. If that's what they talk about on IM chats then.. well... I've been drunk enough (yes, I'm underage, what you gunna do), not that it's a habit I partake in a lot. And as for drugs; no thanks. Exactly. You don't have to invade their privacy to get information about your child's life. My parents talk to me, as I do to them often about my life in general. So, in answer to your last piece, no I don't tell my parents everything. That's not really any of their business (what I do not tell them). However, I play by the rules, except when I use my own judgement on the matter. Not saying that my judgement is always right, and I've made mistakes in my life, but who hasn't? We're not talking about love ireland. Are you implying something?
Ripper do ye ever wonder why the old timers left? the main reason is newbies (children) come onto the site and try to act like adults. Quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- i agree with goddes1,as i can see ye loves his children very much.. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We're not talking about love ireland. yes we are,love leads to trust and then privacy
goddes1, You sound like you care about your children a lot. I agree with you 100%. I would suggest if anyone has an answer to the original "technical" question then help out if you like. Otherwise we are all just going off in a tangent which isn't helping at all.
That's very twee. But to be honest, I couldn't care less what you think about me. I'm not trying to be anything, let alone an adult. I'm happy being a child with some brains, thanks. At no point have any old timers left because of me. Don't start about wild77 (if he counts as an old timer?), as I couldn't give two sh**s about him; here or not. If you have a problem with me persé being on the site and think I'm trying to bite off more than I can chew, then a) tough and b) not likely. Do all children count for newbies in your eyes then? Oh, and by the way, I don't class myself as an old timer, just to be clear. And your perception of love seems quite blinded. In my opinion, I'd like to be able to trust the person I "love", before infact I do love them. As would I like them to repsect my privacy beforehand. Not that that concerns me as of yet, as I'm not into major relationships yet.
Ripper i did not point you out..most of what i said is b-4 your time.. your are pointing me out... and i have no more comments
all i've got to say is there's a difference between "love" and playing dictator. sure, my parents love me like crazy, but they've let me make all my own mistakes. i've learned far more from disobeying their rules and suffering the consequences than simply following their advice in the first place. "love," in the sense you use, is part of what i blame the downfall of society on. too many idiots survive and breed because they're not allowed to be killed off in their youth. hello, slowed evolution. ^.^ let the outraged parental flaming begin.
goddes1 i am not sure what virse scan program you have. i have "Trend Micro" and it has a Web Site Access Control setting on it you can check that and set a password it will block most everything.
It depends on the kids! As someone who had to keep going and sorting out the mess on my sisters PC because her kids kept downloading all sorts of stuff. After having the PC for a day it was full of all sorts of nasty stuff, virus files and spyware all over the place, so we installed some stuff... She was using Cyber Patrol. Her anti virus tool was PC Cillin, not a bad one in my opinion. However when it spots a virus it gives you a set of options which include letting it come in! Obviusly there was no getting through to these kids and they just kept re infecting the PC every chance they got. Now I am all for freedom of speech, my new ISP is a proud supported of free software. But be honest, would you let these kids surf your PC when they downloaded virus files in such quantities??? Anyway, eventually we found NOD32, which is neat as it actually gives them no choice, it does not even tell them it is a virus (when set up correctly) XP just tells em it is not able to open the file. It works great. They can still work around cyber patrol and NOD32 I am sure (i certainly could) but they actually have a PC that works all the time now instead of only for a few hours after I have left. I wish they were like the users on here, they research the facts before they do anything. Put a PSP and a USB cable with some kids is like handing them a pretty brick.
thats nothing to do with privacy... its just if you allow them on or not. {quote=kondor]Put a PSP and a USB cable with some kids is like handing them a pretty brick.[/quote] im 16 (so some may say im still a "kid". it p*sses me off, cos its usually the f*ckin stupid people who don't know what they're talking about that say it, just to change the subject.) anyways... my point is my psp is still fine... and yes i do mod it, just before you go and say,"well, you must not mod it"
Thank you for the support from those parents out there that understand what it's like trying to protect your child from the world. For all of you teenagers that believe that you should be given freedoms and privacy, and that your parents have no business knowing about what's going on in your life you're WRONG. Although you will not see it now, you will later. I didn't see it at you're age either. One day you will have children of your own and you will look back to things you were told by adults as a child and realize that they were right. I love my kids and I trust my kids, and no they are not talking about drinking and drugs that was just a hypothetical. I am not a dictator and my children are not stupid, but I will not be the mother that didn't do everything she could to protect her children from the world for as long as she could, but nor will I put them in a bubble. As far as my original question, I feel that I should go elsewhere for the answer.
not to re-hash, but i find those to be two incongruous statements. *shrugs* you have to know your audience and knowledge-base. considering this forum is mostly occupied by male tech-savvy liberals between the age of 14 and 28 who feel they've suffered under parental tyranny or at least too much control, what other answers can you expect besides rejection of your idea? no offense; parent as you see fit. but we have rights to our opinions, as well.
No one said anything about our parents having no business knowing about what's going on in our lives. There is a difference between taking an interest in your child's life & being protective of them and then an invasion of privacy. Good luck trying to achieve what you want to then. Cos if the three "children" posting in this thread at present are anything to go by, then you'd have no luck what-so-ever. That's what you think; Maybe you'll see diferent when you attempt to cyber spy on them.. LOL What Auslander said ^.~
hey, leave Auslander out of this. his brain has no idea what his fingers and mouth are up to most of the time. >.>
just info......... I Want Privacy! By Elizabeth Pantley Question: My child complains that he doesn't get any privacy. He doesn't want us to walk into his room any time we want to, and has even asked for a lock on his door. Think about it: As children grow, many start to feel a need for a private space. This is a normal part of development. Your child's right to privacy, though, should be earned by the demonstration of trustworthiness and responsibility. Set clear rules: This is a good time to discuss the rules you feel are important regarding privacy. It's okay that everyone in the family has to ask before going into another's dresser drawers, or to knock to enter each other's rooms. Children, however, must be taught to ask, "Who is it?" and if the answer is Mom or Dad, they need to say, "Come in." Don't allow your child to say, "I'm busy," or some such answer. You are knocking as a courtesy, not to gain permission to enter. (In reverse, however, they ARE asking to gain permission to enter a parent's room. This is one of those times when what's good for the goose is not good for the little gander.) Help them grow up: Many children begin to assert their developmental independence by desiring more authority over their bedroom, which they perceive as the only part of the house that is truly theirs. If you have a basically responsible child, it's okay to turn over his bedroom to him, with a series of clear rules. These rules should cover housekeeping issues, design issues (how you feel about posters on the wall, etc.), rules about food in the room, how often it must be vacuumed and the sheets changed. Let your child know that he can earn the privacy in his room by showing that he is responsible enough to follow the rules. If a child abuses this trust by doing things in his room that violate your house rules (such as playing with matches, or eating treats after you have said no), then let him know the door must remain open until he has earned the privilege of privacy once again. If your child continues to break the rules, simply remove the door from the hinges, store it in the garage, and set a time frame for the following of rules that will result in the re-installment of the door. What's really happening? Explore the reasons your child is wanting more privacy. Is this just normal development, or does he have something he's trying to hide? Most likely, if the reason is the latter, his behavior will appear secretive in other ways, too. He may make whispered phone calls, or answer questions about what he's up to in vague, disjointed ways. If so, try to get information by asking direct questions. Maybe he's planning a surprise, or spending time reading a book such as, "What's Happening to My Body." It's also possible that your child has discovered masturbation. If you talk with your child and aren't satisfied with the answers you get, it's time to talk to a family counselor or other professional. Special Note: If your child is spending excessive time alone, or is displaying other unusual behaviors, such as constant moodiness, anger or secretiveness, please talk to a family counselor about your concerns. http://www.childrentoday.com/articles/926.php?wcat=64
I'm all for watching whats going on, not to the extent of installing a key-logger, but knowing when and where. Example: I love my 2(step)sons ages 17 and 15 but only trust one of them right now. I wouldn't be saying that if he didn't lie straight to my and his mothers face about ditching school. I probably wouldnt have found that out if there wasn't Japanimeporno and Ebaumsworld left in the computers history. He'd erased the phone message from school, and intercepted the snail mail (which I found right next to the bong made out of a pepsi can hidden in his closet.) goddes1---at least make sure you have an administrators login for you and only you. Everyone else should use a different login. It helps when combined with the other ideas given by the parents.
