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A NEWBIES GUIDE TO SETTING UP A DM500S FOR CARDSHARING

Discussion in 'Digital TV - UK & Europe' started by piopat, Apr 15, 2010.

  1. piopat

    piopat Active member

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    its about 76 euro a month for sky world which is all basic pay channels plus the movies and sports packages ,setanta is 17 euro a month (thats 92 euro a month and thats not hd ).setanta are not part of sky (even tho they use the sky card)once you have the sky channels you can get setanta sports in minutes via their site.

    here are the prices for skys packages
    http://www.sky.com/ireland/tv/costs/

    sign up for setanta here
    http://www.setanta.com/ie/Join-Now/join-on-satellite/
     
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    This is form post #13 on the tread by Piopat can anyone please confirm that IP issues thanks
     
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    I can see the confusion alright. When he says you need to set a static IP on all computers on your network, this would be to stop them having the same IP address on more than one computer (or box) on your internal network. The IP address of the external box would not be a problem (as it would be on its own network in the users house), and as it would be acting as a client.
    If you had to have a static IP address assigned to the external box, it would mean that any server would have to issue an individual IP address to each client (which is not necessary or practical).

    Hopefully someone will explain it better than I just did!!!
     
  4. fintannl

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    it is of no concern what the ip address of a client is. the only issue is to ensure that you have a static address for server. and the only reason for that is to ensure that the port on your router is directed to your dreambox/other linux box (server) so the client can access the services.

    other things is that a client from the same location cannot access the same services without approval. cccam does not allow dual access from same ip without dual usernames setup in the server system
     
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    Thanks for that clarification. I have yet another question when setting up a dyndns account I put my external Ip as host IP and I succeeded in sharing externally but when I put my server box Ip instead I can't share externally and by my understanding that's the right way to do it Also I just found out that my IP is static but I still Like to go though the dydns route as It may be more secure
     
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    your server ip is 192.168.x.x. if your broadband provider supplies static ip, then you are well lucky,. In truth you will need a static ip address. if you are unsure why then ask the question
     
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    Fintannl I understand why need static IP but I like to use dyndns to shield my IP the image bellow explains my problem
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    In the box in the image above where it says IP Address when I put my server box IP into it I can't share externally and the open port tool test fails but when I put my external IP the one given by my ISP in to it I can share externally and it passes the open port tool test should it not be the other way round

    I get internet by cable my cable modem is scientific atlanta EPC 2203 and my wireless cable router is a Belkin how would this change or affect my configuration because I opened tha port on the belkin not the Atlanta thanks again
     
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  8. kopkidda

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    Thanks for the info lads.

    If I got all ok Sky uk package and got 2 sky boxes, would I not be able to share my card out and use these two sky boxes for my own home?as I would have to put one of the cards into the dm500 that i was using as a server?is this correct?
     
  9. piopat

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    in order to get two cards from sky for your house sky will make you get multi room ,firstly sky will charge you a fee for this (maybe 15 euro extra a month)and also they will insist that your box is connected to your phone line. the reason for the phone line is that they dont want you giving the second card (that only costs 15 euro) to a mate/family member to use in their house ,when the box is connected to the phone line they know the cards are in your house where they are meant to be.
     
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    Right pat so I would have to get two boxes for my house(multiroom) and use one of these cards in my dreambox as a server.
     
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    kopkidda,sent you PM
     
  12. fintannl

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    so-cool, your external ip is the key. this directs requests to your router. then you forward these requests from your router to your dreambox by setting up a port-forwarding rule.

    so now to the benefit of a static ip. of course you can still use dyndns. but if your ip is constant then you only need to update dyndns once. after that update all your clients will always be able to connect to your system using your hostname on dyndns or by directly connecting to your system using your static external ip address
     
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    what would be done differently when setting up cs in my set up ie broadband through cable modem supplied by ISP connected to Belkin wireless router would I open the port on the cable modem or the Belkin like I have, like i said in my earlier post I got external share working but my dyndns setup was a bit strange it only works when I set it up with my external Ip but not when I set it up with server box Ip any ideas why.
     
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    sorry, i thought i just did explain why you must use external ip rather than internal ip. example. all broadband users have internal network. the internal network ip address will be 192.168.x.x. How would it be possible for an internet user to connect to such an IP when every single broadband user in the world has the same internal ip numbers. Hence the only way to connect to your network is to connect to your external ip address (which is unique to your router) and then the router forwards the requests to the internal box on your system (your dreambox). there is nothing strange with your dyndns settings at all. they are exactly as they should be. be aware that if your dyndns hostname is as described in earlier posts you should change it immediately. you should not post such information on an open forum
     
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    Fintannl what you are saying make sense, but I got this form post #446 in this tread
    comenting about the image I in post #747 and that's not my dynds addy thanks

    I'm set up and its working and I should not try to fix it if it's not broken right, maybe I misunderstood the tut thanks to you and Piopat and all the other guys for their valuable contribution.
     
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    i see nothing wrong with piopats tutorial. it states that the server must have a static ip address. the reason for this is that all clients can connect from www to your box. the only way this can happen is if the port forward from your router is made to an internal IP that is a static ip address. it makes no sense that the server would have a dynamic ip address because then the router would lose connection on a regular basis to clients
     
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    hi kop mate maybe im misunderstanding you im not sure ,but if you want two sky boxes (with sky channels )you need sky multi room ,which is a sky sub with atleast two cards and two boxes (the second card being a lot cheaper ) but for this sky require you to have a phone line connected to your sky box. that means if your card is not in the sky box sky will know (and want to know why) if im misunderstanding you kop mate sorry and please let me know.
     
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    Alright pat.

    How do you share your sky out to your friends?do you put the sky card from a sky box into the dreambox?so then the sky box without the card wont work?Am I right?or can you share your dreambox without the card in it at all?
     
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    in order to share with your friends the card will need to be in the dreambox mate ,the sky box will still open all the free to air channels of which there are quite a few.
     
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    Ok thanks Pat, have sent you a PM
     

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