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A NEWBIES GUIDE TO SETTING UP A DM500S FOR CARDSHARING

Discussion in 'Digital TV - UK & Europe' started by piopat, Apr 15, 2010.

  1. 4POD

    4POD Member

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    Who is your ISP I'm with smart 4mb but planning to change to Imagine Wimax when available.
     
  2. jackoooh

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    eircon wimax not available here either nor for the forseeable future..
     
  3. banie01

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    Hiya folks! Just getting started on the CS route using a vu+ Duo, I'm wondering if it would be possible for anyone to drop me a pm to point me towards a good Cline along with any pointers on who to avoid?
    Any and all help will be much appreciated.
     
  4. hooter007

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    bad idea
    always stick with "hard wired connection" if going down the c's route

    **EDIT**
    Imagine Breeze is good, dear but good "2mb down" "2mg up"
    Never had a bad complaint when with them, with 2 laptops, 2 dodgy boxes, & son on ps.3 all going 24/7
    he always hosted the games he was playing cos he never got laggin

    have a look at homevision €30 for fone line and broadband (not 100% sure if there hard-wired though)
    also there content ratio is very low, well it was when i was going with them 12 months ago
     
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    Mate would you not recommend homevision as i thinking of changing from eircom as i will get a higher speed for same price???
     
  6. banie01

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    Lads thanks for the help!
    Afterdawn users always come up tops, I don't post here often but when I do I always get good advice and long may it continue! :)
    Thanks
    Banie01
     
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    i was never with homevision
    but they were an option i was considering, as the price was great at the time
    €28 for fone or €29 for 2mb + 256k broadband & fone, there "contention ratio" is 1-1
    also limited to a few ares their service is, you do need a fone line to switch to them
    that all sounds good for the right person
    but some have had "bad" experience with them
    although you have a 30day opt out you still need to cancel your provider your with ie:eircom ect..
     
  8. rooney123

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    Cool thanks..I got on to eircom they gave next gen broadband wit speed to to 8mb for same price so that will do me..Thanks for the reply
     
  9. jackoooh

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    speed up to 8mb up to is the big word here you might be lucky if you get half with that shower
     
  10. fintannl

    fintannl Regular member

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    to be honest 56kbyte dial-up internet is probably the best solution of all for sharing. the issue is not broadband speed. the issue is latency on the broadband connection. there is virtually no latency on a circuit switched dial-up connection as compared to modern packet switched networks. those who have experienced dial-up would think this as a slightly unusual viewpoint as internet is so slow on dial-up. this is only because of the limited bandwidth available to supply web pages on dial-up. 1mb, 30mb, 100mb networks are really not the issue. the number of packets transferred are in bytes, not kilobytes or megaybtes. latency is the problem
     
  11. jackoooh

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    (Not my work)

    Latency vs. Bandwidth
    Although the theoretical peak bandwidth of a network connection is fixed according to the technology used, the actual bandwidth you will obtain varies over time and is affected by high latencies. Excessive latency creates bottlenecks that prevent data from filling the network pipe, thus decreasing effective bandwidth. The impact of latency on network bandwidth can be temporary (lasting a few seconds) or persistent (constant) depending on the source of the delays.
    Latency of Satellite Internet Service
    Satellite Internet service illustrates the difference between latency and bandwidth on computer networks. Satellite Internet connections possess both high bandwidth and high latency. When loading a Web page, for example, most satellite users can observe a noticeable delay from the time they enter a Web address to the time the page begins loading. This high latency is due primarily to propagation delay as the request message travels at the speed of light to the distant satellite station and back to the home network. Once the messages arrive on Earth, however, the page loads quickly like on other high-bandwidth Internet connections (DSL or cable).

    Besides propagation delays, latency also may also involve transmission delays (properties of the physical medium) and processing delays (such as passing through proxy servers or making network hops on the Internet).
    Measuring Network Latency
    Network tools like ping tests and traceroute measure latency by determining the time it takes a given network packet to travel from source to destination and back, the so-called round-trip time. Round-trip time is not the only way to specify latency, but it is the most common.

    On DSL or cable Internet connections, latencies of less than 100 milliseconds (ms) are typical and less than 25 ms desired. Satellite Internet connections, on the other hand, average 500 ms or higher latency.
    Summary
    Two key elements of network performance are bandwidth and latency. The average person is more familiar with the concept of bandwidth as that is the one advertised by manufacturers of network equipment. However, latency matters equally to the end user experience as the behavior of satellite Internet connections illustrates. Businesses use the term Quality of Service (QoS) to refer to measuring and maintaining consistent performance on a network by managing both bandwidth and latency in a coordinated fashion.
     
  12. fintannl

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    i miss the point. what i tried to emphasise is that within a circuit switched data network you have an end to end connection with the peer. with a packet switched data network you are at the mercy of the various protocols (RIP, BGP, OSPF) as to how data is transmitted and in what fashion. So, for example, if you were talking to a person in Germany on a circuit switched connection you would not notice latency, if you were talking to someone in australia you would seriously understand latency. so thats circuit switched covered. On data networks latency is always about the weakest link (and that is the huge difference between circuit switched and packet switched networks). anyways to simply not bore people too much all i will say is that a 1mb connection can be as good as a 100mb connection. it all depends on how the data network is set up. personally i have a 1 mb and that is just working fine. but that is because i pay for a quality 1mb solution. you can have a 100mb solution that will not be able to match it. and the crucial point is related to the service required. if you need reduced latency then you go for one solution, if you want high bandwidth for downloading huge files you go for another solution. always keep in mind what you most need
     
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    thanks fintannl for that
     
  14. 4POD

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    Hi jakooh
    you haveing problems with reception today, I switched on just now and nothing at all the c line is dead no channels except the FTA.
     
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    lads forget about them payservers .. all rubish.. try http://ondemand.ddns.me and follow instructions and get free c line.. set up ur dyndns account and off you go
     
  16. fintannl

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    hmmmm. i wonder if you noticed that you must give 2 levels of reshare to somebody you don't know. the clever pay servers give people with cards free access to their systems once they are allowed to reshare their cards. so yes, you as the individual, get all the channels you want, but the payserver gets your card to reshare. the system you promote looks awful like this to me.
     
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    if thats directed at me.. its free connection for all.. no need for a card of your own.. so its a win win for all newbies with no cards
     
  18. fintannl

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    am i reading this site wrong. you must first give an fline (with two reshare levels) before you receive a cline. looks to me that this means you must have a local card beore you get a cline. correct me if i'm wrong.
     
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    delete
     
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  20. fintannl

    fintannl Regular member

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    we do not promote or in any way agree with the use o pay servers on this site. one of the main reasons for this is the jeopardy its puts people in. so if you are looking for illegal services look elsewhere. if you are looking for intuitive guides on how to expand your knowledge then ask more appropriate questions
     

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