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audio sync problem using nero vision express 2

Discussion in 'Nero discussion' started by Vectra, Jan 12, 2006.

  1. tuna161

    tuna161 Guest

    Ok thanks, I'm sure I'll be able to find it. But does it support Dual Layer? I was using 6 Ultra and it didn't.
     
  2. jefflang

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    Not sure tuna, never tried!
     
  3. Headborg

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    HEY TUNA!

    No I don't believe 6 supports DL. You'll have to try VirtualDub to fix the sync..it's faster than TMPG..another thing to consider: I started out with a 350 mb .avi file after VirtualDub I had a 500+ mb .avi file...then just for shits&giggles I tried running it thru TMPG..YES 3HRS TO CONVERT TO DVD PAL (MPEG-2 AUDIO) AND ENDED UP WITH A 2.5 GIG .MPG FILE- WHICH MADE THE NERO RECODE A REAL ZIP..
    SUGGESTION: TRY VIRTUALDUB FIRST, THEN TRY ImToo MPEG encoder..it's a lot faster than TMPG converts files to .vob then Shrink can compress them. But then how would you use Vision 4 to make your Menus? wouldn't you need to use Express to burn/ backup the .vob or will Vision 4 import .vob's?
     
  4. tuna161

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    OK, success! Heres what I did: Used DivxToDVD to convert the .AVI files. Finished size was 1G each. (They were 5.1 channel HDTV .avi's) Then I used TMPGEnc DVD Author 1.6 to author the menus, chapters, etc. Set the output to go to HDD. Then when it was finished used their burning software to burn it to a single layer DVD. Didn't have to worry about the DL after all! Checked the finished product and turned out a nice copy, animated menus the whole bit and most importantly....no out of sync audio! I checked it chapter by chapter. Now I'm going to do it again with 4 more episodes and hopefully have the same results.
     
  5. Headborg

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    hEY TUNA, i JUST GOT THE TMPG DVD AUTHOR 1.6 --HAVEN'T TRIED IT YET...I'M WONDERING ABOUT THE MENUS...DO YOU HAVE AS MANY OPTIONS AS NERO VISION? BACKGROUDS? MUSIC? ETC?
     
  6. tuna161

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    From what I can tell it does. I was able to put a background in the menu, it animates the chapter buttons, and does sound but I didn't mess with the sound. Nero seems to be a little more flexible with the customizing though but for something to work the way you want it to it's a fair trade off. Also I did 4 more episodes....no out of sync! Hope it works for you as good as it has for me.
     
  7. itsd0n

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    hey guys...im farely new here but ive been reading up this whole thread this whole day. i have the same problem as evry1 else which is audio out of sync when u burn from nero...i tried looking for nero 6.3.3.10 or something like that but it impossible...im downloading convertxtoDVD but u cant use it cuz it leaves the water marks soo now im trying to use vdub....1st of how do i get started? of course open video file but from there im lost?
     
  8. itsd0n

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    do i go :

    file - run video analysis pass?

    or is there i different button i should be pressing to get on the same page u guys are at?

    do i chose an audio compression or does do it automatically?

    when i choose "run video analysis pass" i look at the details and look at the audio it says "0"
     
  9. Headborg

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    I suggest this order;

    1. go to Video select Full Processing Mode
    2. go to Audio select above
    3. go to Options select sync to audio make sure the drop frames when behind ISN'T CHECKED.
    4. GO BACK TO VIDEO...SCAN FOR ERRORS
    5. RUN ANYLSIS PASS
    6. SAVE FILE

    AND YOU WANT THE NEW FILE TO BE LARGER THAN THE OLD. If you check you file properties afterward ...the new bit rate on the .avi audio file will be like 1600 kbps instead of 199kbps...there will be a audio sample size like 24bit, and the audio format will be like PCM istead of mpeg-3. P.S. it's a good idea to shut off TSR programs running in the background like screensavers, etc. then can cause all kinds of glitches when encoding, burning , dubing , etc.
     
  10. tuna161

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    I had the same problems with Nero. Who knows, may be their encoding process. But I've had nothing but great success with the method I listed. Did all 13 episodes plus the bonus special of the 1st season of Prison Break. Turned out awesome! One thing to think about too is chapters. I only put like 3 chapters in each episode when I was using Nero. Then with TMPG enc Author I had it put chapters in every 10 mins. I read somewhere that this will let it get/keep audio in sync. Didn't try it again with Nero out of frustration, so it may work. I also don't know about converttoDVD, I don't recall seeing any watermarks with DIVXtoDVD though.
     
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  11. itsd0n

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    ive figured it out on my own i jst went on tweaking a few options here and there i used a program called "WinAVI video converter" to convert AVI the movie i dled to DVD then added the file to nero vision and automatically split the movies into chapters i think spliting the movie into chapters help get the audio into sync...here was the thread "http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/313682"
     
  12. mphutchy

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    HEADBORG - you are a star!! I've read many frums over the last 6 months and finally your solution works.I have used Virtualdub on recommendation from other forums, but with so many options it can get confusing so the simple process you describe above should definately be tried by others. Just a quick point - earlier in this thread Drnknja said set the compression to Xvid, not too sure if this was importnat, but i did this too

    Also for those that still have problems with this method, check that the Audio does not have errors using GSpot downloaded from here - http://gspot.headbands.com/download.html When this is opened load the AVI and click on the AUD buttons 1 to 3 on the bottom left of panel - to the right of this is a pane where the results are shown. Any error message there indicates a problem and a doubt the above method will work!
     
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  13. drnknja

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    the compression to xvid is not necessary you can compress to which ever you choose i have been using xvid just cause it's what seems to work the best for me....
     
  14. mphutchy

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    Thanks drnknja. Will stick with Xvid seeing as it worked for me too.
     
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    I've been reading this thread all day and am dissapointed that it seems there's no sure-fire solution for fixing Nero's audio-sync problem. I just started getting into the AVI to DVD thing yesterday and was thrilled when I got Nerovision to make an awesome looking DVD of my favorite shows. Now after about 8 out of sync DVDs and hours of time wasted I guess the onyl hope is this VirtualDub and ConvertXtoDVD. I have both but am a bit confused as to how/what I'm supposed to do. Please remember that this is all terribly new to me.

    I read what Headborg said about getting VirtualDub to work and I followed his steps to the letter. However, I try to go to "file > open video file" and when I choose the .avi file I want to...convert(?) it gives me this error:
    "Couldn't locate decompressor for format 'XVID' (unknown)"

    What the hell does this mean and what must I do to end this troublesome process of burning a damn video to DVD!?

    P.S. I like ConvertCtoDVD for it's relative simplicity compared to VirtualDUB, but is there anyway to get buttons and other extras like Nerovision offers with it?
     
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  16. drnknja

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    i dont kow much about convertx sorry but v-dub well were old pals...uhm basically your just missing some codecs real simple solution make sure you have the latest version on xvid installed on your computer and if you dont have it i would suggest downloading vobsub as well may not need now but better safe in advance then sorry later.,..you can find them here...

    [bold]xvid[/bold]
    http://www.xvidmovies.com/codec/

    [bold]vobsub[/bold]
    http://www.free-codecs.com/download/VobSub.htm

    hope this helps you with you v-dub issue
     
  17. MrBean123

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    FREE PORN .........ok now i have your attention lets get down to this nero problem... I first posted a reply back in Jan.. i have had many of the problems with out of sync audio when trying to burn season 2 of the Lost episodes.... to start with the shows would convert just fine but by the time i reached episode 10 things had got way out of sync. i had some good results with DVD santa but this software takes hours to convert/encode.....
    So i sat down a tried to think way this problem started and after reading all the other posts about Nero version 6 and 7 i think i have the answer... when i first started burning lost i was using version 6.8 however after a few weeks i got a hold of version 6.10 and then soon after version 7
    Version 6.10 and 7 are the version which gave me the problems, because the versions of Lost i downloaded are from the US the bit rate is different. Nero 6.8 sorts out the difference between the PAL/NTSC and the bit rate used in the US. I think that when i upgraded my nero versions from 6.8 to 6.10 and then version 7 the codecs changed and caused the out of sync problem.
    The only way to sort this out was for me to format my drive and
    re-install windows xp and then nero 6.8
    I have just done the above and everything is working fine again...
    I have just downloaded Lost season 2 episodes 15,16,17 and 18 and burnt them all to DVD using nero 6.8 and all are 100% ok.
    I have know that Nero 6.8 is hard to find so i will upload nero 6.8 and the keygen to a few P2P sites in the next few days for you chaps to download... I hope this helps...
     
  18. BananaT

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    Okay, here's what I've just figured out and it seems to work:

    Get a copy of Avidemux 2. Open your video file in it. It usually asks me to build VBR timemap, and packed bitstream detected, yes to both (rebuild and unpack). Then once thats done, on the main screen, for video leave it as 'copy' but choose FFM MP2 for audio. Click save and choose a filename + location. Remember if you're saving it as an avi, your going to have to type in "FILENAME.avi" not just "FILENAME". It takes about 2 mins to to do this, then just load up your encoded files in NeroVision like normal and encode as you normally would. Just to be safe I have turned off 'Smart Encode' and it seems to work. Trying another DVD now...

    (By the way i'm using the latest versions of Nero)

    Do let me know if it works ;-)
     
  19. lazyclone

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    Fantastic! Thanks for the solution [bold]BananaT[/bold]!

    I'm sure some of the other programs suggested work great too, but BananaT's solution works for anyone who wants to solve the original problem and use Nero VE to make DVDs from encoded files. At least it does using version 6.3.1.10, on Xvids with MP3 audio tracks.

    Thanks again.

    Oh BTW, it was stated earlier in the thread that the version I'm using, 6.3.1.10 with VE2, doesn't have the synch problem. I feel I should emphasise that this is incorrect (for me!), and that the synch gets badly out on files using the video and audio codecs mentioned above, unless I prepare the file with Avidemux beforehand as suggested by BananaT. (Perhaps it works with some codecs but not others, I don't know, but I made several out of synch tries with this version).
     
  20. gary5984

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    I am quite new to the converting video to dvd lark but I bought a gizmo called a Xpert DVD maker usb 2.0. I tried repeatedly to get the thing to burn using it's own software and gave up. Someone advised me to use Nero to burn the DVD so I got Nerovision 2 and gave it a bash. I also had a problem with the sync. I was getting the video capture using the nero software but the Xpert hardware. I then read somewhere that the Dell machine had software called sonic DVD which had the capture facility. Tried it but the burning was more complex and not as good as the nero. I have now tried two different methods of capture. I capture using xpert capture software and also with the sonic dvd capture. Save these to the hard drive and burn them using the preferred method of Nero. To cut a long story shory, which I'm sure you want me to, it works perfectly. I have created 10-12 discs with multiple titles and chapters using nero vision express but the initial capture was done with either of the other two methods. All work great!!!
     

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