.AVI file only play on VLC and won't burn to disc?

I have read quite a few threads on converting AVI to MPEG2 or DVD bit this don't quite fir in to that category.

I have a 1.02Gb .avi movie on com HDD. Try to play in WMP11 and get a "Windows MPlayer has encountered a problem and needs to close" etc.
Error Signature: AppName: wmplayer.exe...AppVer: 11.0.5721.5145.......
ModName: libavcodec.dll.......ModVer: 0.0.0.0....Offset: 00008235
There is sound that keeps playing but there is no visual.

WinAmp 5.5.4.2189 produces the same; no visual but sound and a couple of differences in the Error sig
Error Signature: AppName: winamp.exe...AppVer: 5.5.4.2189.......
ModName: libavcodec.dll.......ModVer: 0.0.0.0....Offset: 00008235
(MS want me to send an error report to them about this one also)

Real Player fails too. Same error sig but different AppName: realplay.exe and AppVer: 11.0.0.466

QuickTime failed to do anything but tell me that I needed to install some "missing components", didn't say what these 'components' are so off it sent me to an Apple webpage with a plethora of "components to choose from: I opted for the DivX 7 codec. if it don't work I'll go get the bloody rest of the glut.
............ .............. ................

VLC 0.9.4 will play the file with audio and visual but I have to open it in VLC from the 'Media > Advanced Open File' method.

Nero8 Ultra's Showtime 4 comes to the party no probs.
............. ............... ..............

I tried using Ashampoo Burning Studio 8 to burn the .avi file to a DVD-R 4.7GB disc, choosing the "Create a DVD from a file or folder"option: that failed. I eventually used Ashampoo to create a 'DVD Data disc' of the .avi file. This disc wouldn't open on my computer into any player bar VLC.

D-loaded and installed TMPGEnc. Tried that to encode to MPEG 2: no go.
D-loaded / installed AVICodec v 1.1.0.2 and tested the .avi file to see what it is made of and here is what I got to go on:
FileName;FileType;FileDate;FileRealSize;FileTheoSize;FileDuration;
FileQuality;VideoCodec;vcName;vcUrl;vcDriver;vcSuppByVFW;
AspectRatio;Width;Height;FramesNb;Fps;VSec;VSize;VAvgBPS;
aStreamsNb;AudioCodec1;a1Name;a1Url;a1SuppByVFW;a1Channels;a1SamplesNb;
a1Sps;a1AvgBPS;a1Sec;a1Size;AudioCodec2;a2Name;a2Url;a2SuppByVFW;
a2Channels;a2SamplesNb;a2Sps;a2AvgBPS;a2Sec;a2Size
.avi;AVI;2009-01-18 02:22:53;1105336320;1105335368;5591;72;XVID;"XVID Mpeg-4";http://www.koepi.org/xvid.shtml;;1;"2.44:1";704;288;139780;25.0;5591;792229122;1133;1;2000;"AC3 DVM";http://ac3filter.sourceforge.net/;1;5;313107200;48000;448;5591;313096000;0000;"";;0;0;0;0;0;0;0

So off I went to get the DivX 7 codec because I thought that this was a DivX file and not an.avi ( same thing aren't they??) dumb ain't I!
Have just used Ashampoo to create another disc from the " Create a DVD from a file or folder" option and this time it has created a different lay-out in its GUI. This time it might burn to disc, shame I don't have one to put into the burner and find out, eh. Tomorrow.
I think that the DivX 7 codec might have done the business on that one, as well as the other no-go shows, perhaps.

Best I go try to play this Camellion file in some players ( the .avi file in My Docs that had a green horizontal strip across the rectangular box/icon containing it has changed from Green to black...wonder what colour the screen's going to be now, it was green before......bbs

Success in Winamp, no green screen and beauty visuals,,sound too
Exacto-Ditto for Windows Media Player 11....
Quicktime's out to lunch elsewhere and don't wanna party :[
2 outa three ain't bad tho, so far


Hmmmmm,,,,,,maybe this file will go to disc in .avi ( or is it DivX?) tomorrow, will find out then.
I haven't had much joy with creating discs from .avi files, never really tried as those that I did make a couple years back wouldn't play in stand alone DVD machines. so I avoided them.

2 questions: do I need to convert/encode .avi's to mpeg2 or DVD PAL to get DVD's, VCD's or SVCD's to play on stand alone machines?( I'm in NZ)
Have you got any advice to give me apart from give up, and in future,, try submitting shorter threads ?!
ps: ( oh my gawd!!the DVD that i burned in Ashampoo as a Data DVD did play on my mates computer and in Windows Media Player 9 or 10: and there's no DivX 7 or such like on his computer. I'll scratch my earlobe on that one for a while.

That's it ,I've finished the Epic.
Any advice, pointers and opinions always welcome in this house.
Cheers.

As the AVICodec info I gave is all doolalley in its layout I have here
a .bmp of a G-spot of the info regarding the .avi that I am trying to convert to MPEG2:-

Bollocks, can't attach a .bmp or a .jpg of the G-Spot here. Seams like the Graph-in-Burger has gone out: sick of Lunch? Lettuce looksee what's in the turn-up pThatch...........;?

 

I don't know how to edit my own threads, yet, but it was this thread that I read today that sent me off to get the DivX 7 codec
http://www.afterdawn.com/guides/archive/how_to_play_avi.cfm

looking back into my thread I see that the/a codec was mentioned twice in the Error Signature's "ModName"....ie libavcodec.dll.

I was typing the thread while I was searching other threads. Taken me 3 and a half hours to get here.
How do I edit my threads?? :?

 

Top far right of your post is an image of pencil and paper to click.

 

Thank you mistycat. I needed to know how to edit my threads.

To everyone, I still haven't managed to sort out the audio delay sync problem. I'm thinking that it may have something to do with the frame rate dropping from 30fps at start of the encoding process from .avi to .mpeg2, the fps rate decreases steadily 'til it settles at 23fps,around halfway through movie: where the audio becomes out of sync with the visual on the mpeg2 file created.
Is the framerate meant to drop to 23fps for mpeg2 encoding?? I can't figure it out.Bummer.
That's life.

 

gbroman,

Player problems would've been missing codec issue, Ashampoo can only burn AVI files as data disc, you need proper Video TS files etc. to burn as DVD.

From what I can interpret you're looking for means to play AVI files on PC, and burn AVI files to disc in order to view in standalone player.If standalone player supports DivX playback you can burn as data disc and view, if not then conversion to DVD format (much larger files) required.

Here's what I use, recommended in this forum.

MEDIA PLAYER.
K-Lite Codec Pack (Full or Ultra) http://www.free-codecs.com/download/K_Lite_Codec_Pack.htm , with Media Player Classic supplied. Or VLC Player. These should play just about any healthy file that's thrown at 'em.

BURN AVI AS DATA DISC.
To play in DivX certified standalone DVD player, I use ImgBurn, http://www.imgburn.com/ to burn AVI file as data disc.
I had Ashampoo 8 and ditched it for the more comprehensive (and free) ImgBurn.

CONVERT AVI TO DVD.
To play as DVD, if player doesn't support DivX playback, I use DVD Flick to convert AVI file to DVD format, http://www.dvdflick.net/ , burn with ImgBurn (supplied with DVD Flick installation).

If using DVD+R and your drive supports it you can change the disc's booktype to DVD-ROM in ImgBurn Device Settings tab (little book icon) before burning, this helps compatibility with standalone players, especially older ones.

Always use quality media such as Verbatim discs, don't always burn max speed (eg. sometimes using 4x speed helps problem files).

AVI (Audio Visual Interface) is just the container the video/audio files come in. To find file info (codecs, res, bitrates, etc.) I use small app called MediaInfo http://mediainfo.sourceforge.net/en , ,just r/click on file, select MediaInfo, and details appear. Useful for troubleshooting.

All apps are free and do the business in my experience, just follow instructions from apps or online, there's plenty of guides/info on this forum and elsewhere.

Dunno about the sync problem you mentioned in last post I still haven't managed to sort out the audio delay sync problem. "Still haven't"? - didn't see it mentioned before! Don't really understand, assuming source file OK maybe try encoding with DVD Flick? I've never had sync problem with it.

Apologies if seems bit basic but works for me, hope you find something of use.

 

jim64, cheers for your advice and I do know what you are pointing me towards. I did mention the out of sync audio but not in my original thread, I only added it on the 21st, 2 days later after I had tried the conversions of the .avi to mpeg2 using DVD Flick. It is these MPEG 2 conversions that have the audio out of sync, here is the entry I added on the 21st:

The .avi file that I had wouldn't play because I didn't have the divx 7 codec, once that was installed in computer the .avi played.
However, converting the .avi to MPEG 2 introduces the out of sync audio, as stated above.
I have GSpot and AVICodec to check out what the file consists of but I will get MediaInfo and cross check.
Done that and here is the info from MediaInfo:

Format.................Codecs Video..............Audio Codecs
AVI.....................DivX 5................MPEG-1 Audio Layer 3

AVI: 1.92GiB, 1h 5mn
3,991 Kbps,720*480(1,500)at 29.970fps MPEG-4 Visual(DivX5)(NTSC)(BVOP)
192 Kbps, 48.0KHz, 2 Channels, MPEG Audio(MP3)(Version1)(Layer3)....
.....(Joint Stereo)
Overall Bitrate: 4,194Kbps
Format Info: Audio Video Interleave

That's same as it is in GSpot & AVICodec.

This file plays on my computer. Any attempt I have made to convert it into MPEG 2 or DVD ( VIDEO_TS with VOB structure) is a disaster.: the audio is up to a second ahead and out of sync with the visual.
I have used DVD Flick, NCH Prism Video Converter, Power Video Converter and each one produces the same result.

I have just obtained a fresh copy of the .avi file and am now going to put it through the converters, DVD Flick will do the job and once will be enough.
I have ImageBurn but not used it yet. Although as it is part of DVD Flick I take it that it was used to burn the 2 .avi files that I had set DVD Flick to convert to DVD PAL (4.3GB), Below Normal Encoder Priority, Thread Count 1, Target Bitrate: Autofit, Burn Project To disc at a Burn Speed set at x2.
Both of the music video shows on the created DVD Disc (TDK DVD-R 4.7GB)had the out of sync audio creeping into them.
Using media players on my computerI have played both of the .avi files from HDD and both are fine, unconverted. Being new to converting .avi to MPEG 2 or DVD VOB formats might not be helping me much, but I'm not slow to grasp the gist of it. I'm only converting the files because I have to, .avi wasn't on my agenda as a rule. It was either a 1.92GB .avi or a 8+GB DVD Rip D-load. The 8GB DVD version had nothing more on it than the 1.92GB had to offer and I know this because I know the music video. The torrent listed the contents for both and there was nothing between them.
The 8+GB DVD Rip won't need converting though. Don't want it that much myself, can buy it at the Warehouse for $15.0. An 8+GB DLoad and the probable 2GB ULoad getting a torrent @ $2.5 a GB is an 'off topic'
This next attempt I'm about to start hopefully will produce a non-.avi in-sync media file that will play on a 'stand alone' machine.
Thanks for your tips, time and links to programs. Much appreciated.

 

You can try this but only if the sync issue is constant in the encoded file, original may be fine on pc. AviMux_Gui: http://www.alexander-noe.com/video/amg/#download (vl binary 17.8) Open or drag the original file to the top window, highlight it and select generate data. In lower window, highlight audio and if anything other than 0 appear's to the right, select start and encode the new file, take's about 30 second's. Not tried it but this for gradual sync issue: http://forum.videohelp.com/topic309224.html

 

That's what I was going to suggest next, beat me to it!

 

mistycat and jim64, thanks for your replies. I will look into your suggestion of using AviMux, last night I read some posts that are similar in content to my thread and in them demux and muxing are mentioned. I downloaded and installed Avidemux 2.4 GTK+ and tried it , decided that I need to get a handle on what it is for so that I can put it to full use and I will get on with that shortly, as well as get the software that you both mentioned.

As for the drop in the framerate I mentioned, that was only visible to me when I used DVD Flick to do the conversion of.avi to DVD PAL. This movie I am referring to in this thread is the one that dropped the framerate to 23fps, I thought it strange because to the best of my knowledge, DVD PAL framerate is 25fps.
I am at the moment using NCH Prism Video Converter to convert the fresh copy of the movie from .avi to MPEG 2 and am going to scan through it shortly to see if its out of sync where it was before, or anywhere for that matter. Hope not.
One more thing that got me thinking is the reference in MediaInfo to (NTSC) (BVOP)
"3,991 Kbps,720*480(1,500)at 29.970fps MPEG-4 Visual(DivX5)(NTSC)(BVOP)"
BVOP?? I had to investigate this as it is as alien to me as I am alien to file conversion. Googling NTSC/BVOP i find that it is an indication that the file/s origins were in VOB format and a bit of reading bought this into play:-
"Hmm, are you really sure that all XviDs w/ BVOP+NVOP (so called Packed Bitstream) work flawlessly? Framerate is the key parameter here, which you have to pay attention for. Standard PAL (25 fps) streams make no problem, but try with some NTSC stream (23.976 fps, 29.970 fps resp.) - you will most probably encounter playback suffering.
In fact, none of current Pioneer firmwares resolves the Packed Bitstream problem with XViD / NTSC streams."

I got that from this link here:-
http://board.softpedia.com/index.php?showtopic=2217&st=454
Just thought I'd mention it.
The other movie that I converted to DVD VOB at the same time as the other one most mentioned here, that is .avi also and its sound goes out of sync with visual from about halfway through the show. I noticed while that was being encoded that the framerate increased from 30fps to 31fps from, say, halfway through conversion all the way to the end of it. Same thing, sound about 1 second ahead of visual.
I'm running WXP Pro, SP3, AMD Athlon XP2000+ 1.67GHz, 768MB DDR SDRAM (PC2700) 80GB Western Digital HDD EIDE and a 30GB Slave, Asus DRW BL 1814 DL Multi Quietrack Lightscribe and a few other bits....never been any bother before and com is definitely not virus'd or malware'd.

All REAL techno to me, hell, all I'm trying to do is make a 1hr 5minute 1.92GB .avi into a 'thing' that'll party and stand alone in the DVD player in the lounge..
Now, that NCH convert is almost here, I'll go wait at the door to usher it in, and boot it out if it disturbs me.
I'll post the outcome.
Thanks..bbs

OK, I have done the check with AVI-Mux GUI 1.17.8 of the new copy of the .avi file and in the Audio section there is a 0 in the Delay(ms) box.
Other info is as follows:-
video: FourCC: divx (3.99MBps, 1.83GByte, 01:05:32.29
audio:MPEG 1 Layer 3 ( CBR 192kbps, 2Ch, 48kHz, 90.0 MByte}

I've just dropped the newly created .avi to MPEG 2 version into the AVI-Mux GUI and it immediately shows a data source but for audio only. Highlight it and there is still a 0 in Delay (ms) box.
Other info on the MPEG 2 file has changed from that of the.avi from which it has been created, it now reads as follows:-
audio: MPEG 1 Layer 2 (VBR, 2 Ch, 48kHz, bad: 4128, 1.95GByte)

HAHAHA, maybe the audio's fine as dandy, its the visuals that's early arriving.:?.... mooot
Tech-no, heck no!! this is getting into 'Blue-shift / Red-shift' science.
Be a Quantum Leap coming up any moment

Now for the next test, the acid one: first, I'll try your guys stuff,....bbs

Got the VirtualDubMod 1.5.10.2 and have added the .avi file to it and am running it now. While its doing that I will read up on VirtualDubMod from the enclosed 'fool-proof instructions' ( Hell, I'm going to honor myself with a PhD)
bbs....

ok, The .avi file is in-sync throughout the movie and the .mpg version has an appointment with the Delete button, twice. Still out of sync between 3/4's to a second.
I'll give it a stay of execution until I've read its file via VirtualDubMod--it better pray that VDM acknowledges .mpg files.
As it stands, I'm thinking of abandoning this Strolling Bones RnR Stew coz its become a Circus. But I'll be fair, who knows, I might learn something that will save me, even if that don't save "IT".
I have learned a lot from this thread, there's still heaps more to discover.
I will post any findings in VirtualDubMod that I might need help on understanding; I'm sure, as the famous Arnie line goes, "I'll be back"...
Thanks guys.

Fun and games,tried Xilisoft AVI.MPEG.Converter.v 3.1.7 to see what it could produce-the outcome was zero because Xilisoft decided to play hard to get out of its shell.
Cracked open a program I haven't used for quite some time, almost forgot that it is installed on com: Nero 8 Ultra > Recode. Almost alien to me, think I used it 2-4 times when I had the Nero 7 Premium version.
Opted to use the "Recode DVD's and Video's to Nero Digital"--( Convert video content from one or several personal non-copy protected DVD's and make Nero Digital [MPEG-4] files. choose audio tracks, subtitles, trim videos and create Nero Digital MPEG-4 movies. You can also convert video files.)"
Opened the GUI and left it set to Nero Digital Titles: in the Digital Category I left the setting as simply Nero Digital:, in the profile I set to Standard, Fit to target: [CD 80min], save to HDD folder.
Click to Import the .avi video clip > next > click Burn and off it went for 90mins at a framerate of 20 kBps to create a 680MB .mp4 file.
This mp4 file plays in VLC and WMP 11 and is completely in-sync.
MP4? Had to look into this format, seen it as an extension of some XX-MB audio files that I DL'd, pain to open on com, before I got the DivX 7 codec.
Googling tells me that its a container for various A/V media, PS2 being one and iPods etc others. Will this play in anxious DVD player that's been left Standing alone in suspenders?
Don't think it will....will it??? I could burn it to disc and find out I suppose.....
A bit more digging about for info and I find that Nero can be used to create Nero Digital AVC (H.264). Ok, so I don't have a HDTV, a Blue-Ray burner or any Blue-Ray Media discs. Tough. Investigation tells me that from either of the .avi or the mp4 files,I can create a disc that is playable in the Shrinking Violet of a wallflower over in the corner...Hi babe
Set the preferences to Nero Digital files,Category:Nero Digital AVC, Profile: Standard AVC, Target: DVD5-R.
Chose to Import the .avi video clip file, and Nero decided to go 'Not Responding'...2 attempts later, change of options,rofile is now HDTV-AVC (WHOOPIE!!) . Import the .avi file, click next ( see that there's a description saying "Hige Definition AVC profile for sizes up to 1920 x 1080.". I've only got a 14" Trinitron
'Save to' directory is a HDD folder, Hit Burn... Blast off...somethings going up in the air...looks like the ETA to me....started around 0 and now is steadily cycling through the digits and is up to 600+ and still getting higher.......is this ETA in seconds or...hmmmmmmmmm....
Hell ton Gone...."When are you gonna come down"?........see you in the next Milieu-End-um.......

 

gbroman,

I thought your sync issue may have been due to the source file having variable bitrate audio, but wasn't sure so didn't mention in original reply. The link provided http://forum.videohelp.com/topic266089.html would seem to address the VBR issue, but not tried myself. I've got few such files which play fine with no adjustment on my player (Toshiba) but maybe just been lucky.

MP4 is indeed the container used on portable devices, usually MPEG4 or H.264 video codecs with AAC audio. I convert AVIs to this format to view on my N95 8GB.

If the VBR fix doesn't work then afraid it's beyond my experience, hopefully a more knowledgeable member than I (and there are many!) can provide further assistance.

 

cheers jim64. I'll look at the possible fix you point out, I didn't get back on the computer last night because once I set off into outer space, the Good Ship Nero Digital commandeered 97% of the com's CPU. HA, 16hrs 14mins before splash-down. I have just stuck a quick thread on AD about the H.264 and it's here:-
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/742520#4501382
Shot in the dark.
Thanks for all of your help, I will keep this pesky .avi and use it as a case history and something to try-out all of the 'problem' helper / solver programs that you and mistycat put me on to. Hell, there's a lot of reading to do in some of them. I'm a 98% novice when it comes to .avi files. Got one last week for a mate, The Forbidden Kingdom ( Jackie Chan & Jet Li) and that mpeg2'd sweet as. Na, I think that this one in question has come from a source that has repacked the NTSC Original into a .avi, fair enough, but in doing so, there is a 'format that has been compressed and when it is de-compressed an error is creeping in, and always will.
I think the fault can be found in here:-
AVI: 1.92GiB, 1h 5mn
3,991 Kbps,720*480(1,500)at 29.970fps MPEG-4 Visual(DivX5)(NTSC)(BVOP)
192 Kbps, 48.0KHz, 2 Channels, MPEG Audio(MP3)(Version1)(Layer3)....
.....(Joint Stereo)
That BVOP reference. Originally VOB format, converted to .avi. Creating .avi from .vob isn't new, happens a lot, but the .avi torrent that I got of The Strolling Bones RnR Circus-tard.
Thanks for your help. Nice one. If I solve the puzzle I will post it here, and then Go Tell It On The Mountain.

ps: I'm just thinking about VOBBing the MPEG-4 mother. Last chance at the Un-OK Kraal...ha-ha ha..see ya.

pps: the 1st MPEG-4 that I created, the small 687MB one, today I created a version of it / Encoded as an mpg file-(MPEG2 / mp3)using NCH Prism Video Converter and when I played this from the com HDD there was still the Lip sync problem where it was before, but it was not as noticeable, it had lessened, got closer to being in-sync..but a quarter second out is not close enough.
ciao

I'm just reading about the VirtualDub program that you gave the link to. The version shown is a bit different than the one I got other night which is VirtalDubMod v 1.5.10.2 All inclusive. Alien to its use and how to fully employ it but, I'll put here what info I have so for:
Once the app's running and I choose to open the original .avi file in it, click Start tab and movie clip begins: the sound is in sync as expected, haven't figured- but I will do so- how to get it jump forward to a position yet as the option to choose a position to play from (using 'EDIT') becomes unavailable once the movie has started playing. All other options also become unavailable from the options given at top of GUI . I'll have to learn how to use the tabs at the bottom of the GUI.
I believe this .avi will play without any problems with sync.

Next, choose to open the .mpg(MPEG 2) file and get a window saying: "Parsing interleaved MPEG-2 file".
Then a VirtualDub "Warning: MPEG: Anachronistic or discontinuous timestamp found in video stream 0 at byte position 12306, from 0 to 87087. This may indicate an improper join".
Click Play tab and the sound is out of sync from the moment the Jagger starts his intro speech: at least the 1/2 to 7/8th second behind lip movement that doesn't becomes noticeable until about 20 minutes into the movie when viewed not in VirtualDub's Player.
This is beyond my understanding at the present but I'd have a shot in the dark and say that its naffed from the start! Obviously, can't argue that can I!
Hmmm...I have seen this movie played from Original DVD and know that this .avi version I have, from which the MPEG2 has been made, is NOT the entire movie and I know what has been edited out of it: an interview with Pete Townsend that is about 10-15 minutes in length it was added years later to the original 1968 footage, Mick, from out of reach, getting sexy-coy with a Bengal tiger( coward--the Tiger was on at least one Bull-chain and probably whacked out on "Brown Sugar"), a black and white clip of a couple of clowns doing a stint that looks like its been clipped from an Abbott and Costello movie, circa 1940 something, showing all them lovey white deterioration splotches on old B/W movies, and, a couple of Piano pieces played by a then virtuoso, who's name I can't recall now. Basically, the ,avi is NOT the full story, the 'Boring' bits have been edited out, and more than likely, the 'author' screwed up in the editing room and had separated the sound track from the video track and has recombined it out of sync. somewhere.....thought its close enough and uploaded it to the Net-World. Wild assumptions going on here.
Why is the A/V out of sync from word one??
The 7.3GB DVD version on offer at the worlds' biggest SuperStore contains no more movie content than the 1.92GB.avi.

Hmmmmmmmmmm...............that's about it for now. I'll pop back and see what you or any other persons' opinions / views are an the subject.

 

SUCCESS!!!!!!
I used DVD Flick to Convert to DVD Video_TS the 687MB MPEG-4 file I had created with Nero Ultra 8 Recode. I had created a CD-80min MPEG-4 from the 1.92GB .avi movie clip file as a tester, then last night I created that 4.3GB Nero Digital HDTV AVC H.264, MPEG-4 monster file from the 1.92GB Original .avi file.
Deciding to try DVD Flick to create a MiniDVD from the smaller of the two MPEG-4 files (to expedite the process-test) has brought about the desired result, a 1.28GB DVD VIDEO_TS folder containing the following items:
VIDEO_TS.BUP....Backup File of the IFO (6KB)
VIDEO_TS.IFO....IFO File(6KB)
VTS_01_0.BUP....Backup File of the IFO(50KB
VTS_01_0.IFO....IFO File(50KB)
VTS_01_1.VOB....DVD Movie 1,048,544 KB
VTS_01_2.VOB....DVD Movie 304.034 KB

And it plays A/V in sync ( so far played from com HDD only--but I'm confident)
One thing that I do notice about the result is that the .IFO files have a different icon than the .BUP and .VOB; the .BUP & .VOB files show the usual Nero Show Time icon but the .IFO's icon is a say, sheet of A4 paper, with the top right corner of it folded forward and it displays a MediaInfo icon. Click the 6KB one and open it with MediaInfo to be given the following information:

ID: 0Ex0
Format: DVD Video
Codecs Video:MPEG-1 Video
DVD Video(Menu): 6KiB
720*480 (4/3),at 29.970fps,MPEG Video (NTSC)(Version 1)
Bit rate mode: Variable
...............................


The 50KB .IFO file informs as follows:
ID: 0xE0
Format: DVD Video
Codecs Video:MPEG-2 Video
Audie Codecs: AC3
DVD Video (Program): 50KiB
720*576 (4/3),at 25.000fps,MPEG Video (PAL)(Version 2)
English, 48.0KHz, 2 Channels, AC3 (ID: 0x80)
Bit rate mode: Variable
Chapters: (blank)
.............................

VIDEO_TS.BUP and VTS_01_0.BUP files are not found by MediaInfo.

The VTS_01_1.VOB file opened in MediaInfo reveals the following info:

Format..............Codecs Video..............Audio Codecs
MPEG-PS MPEG-2 Video AC3
MPEG-PS: 1,024 MiB, 50mn 48s
2,430 Kbps (2,526Kbps),720*576 (4/3),at 25.000fps, MPEG Video(PAL)(Version 2)(Main@Main)
192Kbps, 48.0KHz, 2 Channels, AC-3
ID:224 0xE0
Format Profile: Main @ Main
Format settings, Matrix: Default
Audio:
ID: 128 (0x80)
Format: AC-3
Format/Info: Audio Coding 3
Bit rate mode: Constant
Bit rate: 192Kbps
................................

VTS 01_2.VOB

Format..............Codecs Video..............Audio Codecs
MPEG-PS MPEG-2 Video AC3
MPEG-PS: 297 MiB, 14mn 44s
2,430 Kbps (2,526Kbps),720*576 (4/3),at 25.000fps, MPEG Video(PAL)(Version 2)(Main@Main), Overall Bit rate:2,817 Kbps
.................................

192Kbps, 48.0KHz, 2 Channels, AC-3
ID:224 0xE0
Format: MPEG Video
Format Version: Version 2
Format Profile: Main @ Main
Format settings, Matrix: Default
Duration: 14mn 44s
Audio:
ID: 128 (0x80)
Format: AC-3
Format/Info: Audio Coding 3
Bit rate mode: Constant
Bit rate: 192Kbps
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Not used to this as when I did back up some DVD's from Original Media DVD discs, I recall seeing Nero icons showing for all of the .BUP, .IFO and .VOB. I could be wrong, I haven't backed up a DVD Video for some time now....hmmmmm.
Anyway, there is the end of that saga, though I am inundated with paths to more knowledge about Audio and Visual creating, authoring and a whole lot more.
Am I going to convert ( or should that be Encode?) the 4.3GB AVC H.264 version of the story into DVD VIDEO_TS et al???
It is a different version to the one that has come to the Party, and speaking of Parties, I have a very patient friend in the corner that's been waiting for me to pay it some attention and quench its thirst.....I better go and get it a nice, off the ice, loaded TDK DVD-R 4.7GB that it can wrap its laughing gear around....

jim64 and mistycat,thanks again for being there and giving me your time and knowledge to get me on and keep me on the track. Much obliged to you both. I'm better equipped now and have all that knowledge and programs/apps you put my way to get a grasp of yet...I'm only a beginner.
Cheers
gbroman

 

When apps installed they associate themselves with relevant file types (you're sometimes given options), that'll be why MediaInfo icon on info files, no big deal, same here.

The output details you posted seem to match ones I have (other than size/runtime obviously), and constant bitrates indicated, so fingers crossed for burn results. This may sound a bit radical but, er, did you consider searching for an alternative torrent of the Stones vid you mentioned? Might've spared you some time and grief!

Glad you're getting there anyway.

 

A lot of info here, but you stated that Nero Showtime played it and Recode was able to convert it to Nero Digital.

Did you try to simply convert it with Nero Vision?

And for future reference, when it comes to audio sync problems ConvertXtoDVD is my go to app.

 

MysticE, hi. No, I didn't even consider going the Nero Vision route. Fact, I'd forgotten all about it. Hadn't used Nero For quite some time as I said, forgot it was even on my computer. (ROFL)
I'll give it a spin this afternoon and if it rocks my boat, I want my boat to be rock-ed. I'll post the result asap. Thanks---I'm cracking up laughing here....sometimes the obvious is unnoticed....I'll be back
thanks.
ps: ConvertX to DVD was the first backup program that I used, about 18 month ago. It did a very good job and I only used it to backup Original DVD Media, and off hand, I can not remember if it will address .avi files or any other file format other than those on an Original DVD Movie Disc. ConvertX to DVD did come to mind yesterday and I do have the program stored to disc with many other programs that I archived; as you have mentioned the program I will unearth it and take it for a spin. I noticed that Convert X to DVD was slow, taking minimum 3 hours and sometimes up to 7hours complete. I moved on to 'One Click' programs like "Apollo DVD Creator", "Magic DVD',"Absolute DVD Copier", SlySoft" , DVD decypter, Shrink 3.2, RipIt4Me and its other necessary soldiers, DVDFAB4, DVDFab5 Platinum, blah blah blah......but yes, I will try the ConvertX->DVD again: after Nero Vision that is.
Cheers

 

jim64, MysticE, mistycat and all newcomers:

here is the answer to all unasked questions and bemusement
jim64, hi. Yeah, I did search for another copy of the stones movie both on TPB and Mininova, the only options with seeds available and not from a Private Tracker were the one that I had and the 7.3GB version in Mininova, but that only had 3 seeds. Besides, I had in my possession a problem child, first of its kind, ha ha,..I thought it was named Dot-avi...I think I'm dottier than it.
I could have gone and purchased the DVD Movie, wheeled it into either the DVDFab5 Platinum or RipIt4Me Theatre and performed a 40minute operation upon the thing in either Wizard mode or 2 Click to flick mode.
I wouldn't have learned anything from doing it that way.
However,with optimism flamed I loaded another camelleon .avi music video clip into Power Video Converter, chose to create a MPEG 2 DVD/PAL output and set it off into action. The .avi movie clip is 0.97GB in size and it is part one of 2 concerts of Deep Purple Live in Copenhagen-1972, (in Black and white) and Live in New York-1973 (color).
Well, the damn thing set off and created 3 'OUTPUT'files, namely Live Copennage.mpeg(4,47GB), Live Copennage_aud.mpg(155MB) and Live Copennage_vid.m2v(4.07GB)....a total size of 8.70GB.....(???)
Not only did the conversion take from 7 to 8 hours to complete, Power Video Converter did not combine the 3 folders to create .IFO, .BUP or.VOB files, why not? I'd set PVC to create an MPEG2 DVD PAL output?:- I'll take a guess and say that I only need the .mpeg file..
Shame its adopted the old Lip-Sync curse.
To be fair, at 11pm last night when I set up Power VC to do the conversion to MPEG2 DVD PAL, I loaded both of the Deep Purple concert .avi files to it and when I saw that only 73% of the first task/conversion had been completed at 7.30ish this morning I deleted the 2nd entry for Live in New York from the schedule, I may have screwed up the conversion when I did that,,doubt it though, there were no signs of the files having been started/created for the 2nd .avi to .mpg conversion. Each movie creates its own files.
I'll give it another run with Power Vid Converter, no, I won't do that at all...NCH Prism Video Converter has just completed a conversion of the Copennage .avi to MPEG2 (MPEG1)(Audio Layer2), and it plays in perfect sync.
Took 41minutes to complete.
I have been using the MediaInfo, GSpot and VirtualDub apps to view the structure of the files contained and am getting some strange things, which I'll have to get educated on. All of these .avi files seem to be DivX/DIVX/VBOP/ and more....some time back I posted a thread here at After Dawn about a .avi file that I had used TuneBite to convert to "DVD-Player Xvid (1536kbps)". Why did I convert?.. because .avi's do not play on a stand alone DVD machine..well they don't on the machine that I have.
Someone had replied to my thread and asked "Why convert .avi to Xvid? Its the same thing. just burn to disc using ImageBurn and you're done"
Yeah?... no Shhhhh....err, bit me lip!
Oh, here it is to be found:-
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/725164

That thread was about some GnR Live Concerts in Rio, at The Ritz and in Paris. Hell I still have them in wonderful .avi. As for the Ghosts in this .avi container ship, well with the GhostBusters I have in my new Arse-n-all, they don't stand a chance.
No offence mistycat and jim64, I'm going to get the old flintlock Nero Vision out of the crypt, prime it,shoot straight from the hip and see if it still KILLS!!

Well, that's the latest goss on my experiences with the M$ .avi container.
Here's to more of them that can change their credentials and apprearences effortlessly as could the fictitious Charles Calthorpe ( The Jackal)
Looks like the "more of them" have come out of Olde Davy Jones's locker:; GnR, Siouxie and the Banshees, Don Knott's The Punk Movie '77,.... hell, might be easier to send the lot to the bottom of the ocean.
Before I end up walking the Plank...:}
ciao for now.

 

I suggested Nero Vision (NV4 hopefully, from version 7) because the other Nero modules you used were able to deal with it. As far as CXD being slow... it's actually quite speedy. The other apps you mentioned I never heard of nor has anyone ever recommended them on any forums I've see.

There was a time when CXD was always mentioned, then was was a shift to DVD Flick (the whole free thing I guess). The newest, version 3, of CXD is far and away the superior app.

 

MysticE, where you been all my strife? Nero Vision did a wonderful job on the original .avi file, creating a DVD Video_TS folder, replete with all the desired components and Audio / Visual in perfect sync: hats off to you. I set Nero Vision to save the transcoded output to a HDD folder as opposed to sending it to DVD5-R disc on completion.
Transcoding and Compiling was complete in 2hr 15min

Shame that I didn't pay attention to detail when I was setting up preferences:- I had chosen to create a DVD5, all good, yeah..yeah..yeah,...but I hadn't set the region from NTSC to PAL. I'm laughing at me more than you are....so I have what I wanted but its not what I wanted....I'll blame that Jagged " you can;t always get what you want-but if you try sometimes, you just might get what you need", I'm gonna be TRYING real hard next time, like in a minute or twenty....I have to wait for the HDD to cool down, seriously,.....
3 minutes from completion the sirens went off:- the HDD Inspector program that I have running in the background monitoring my coms HDD's sent an on-screen warning to give some visual to the siren audio. HDD temperature had gone critical at 132*F. Com auto protect shutdown and that was the end of that. I was seriously hacked off, 3 minutes from knowing if your suggestion was coming up trumps and Old Nick, no appointment made, pops in for a cuppa tea"..... Hi!, please allow me to Introduce myself".........ha ha. Here, Nick!- me old china plate ...What d'ya reckon me chances are of getting a nice bit of Goats Head Soup at the Beggars Banquet Nosh up I hear you throwing tonight down at the Coven Tree?? and maybe Some Girls and Sticky Fingers, too...huh?..?..forget 40 winks, I'll opt for 40 Licks....y'know what I mean guv...

Cheers guys, its been fun, entertaining and a great Learning curve all the way through.
AVI's of the net/ not really my thing, did it for a mate who pestered me for yonks about the Stones Circus, since I asked him if he'd like a look at it. That was when I flat-mated with chap who had an Original copy of the DVD. I tried to create a 'backup' of it but it was a wee bit fine scratched. Played in Stand alone DVD macine but any attempt to Decrypt it met with trouble from the VTS_02_02.VOB, 90% dummies inserted, all sorts of bother, up to 12 hrs to get to end of decrypt and what should have been 1GB+ Vobs had only 230,000MB or less content.
I put a Query on AfterDawn about this and it was titled " Shrink can't crack this tough nut of a DVD"
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/707295
That was when I first used DVD Shrink 3.2 and I didn't know that it wasn't a ripper/dvd creator in its own right, not like the other programs that I had become accustomed to. Fact, I thought that it was the fastest disc read/compiler that I had ever seen...30 seconds and its ready to BURN!!! ha ha

MysticE, I have just read your latest post, having been gone for some time while all the above transcoding was in progress on the computer.
Shame, I'll get it right next time.
The version of Nero Vision I have is NV5.I have had Nero 8 Ultra on computer since late 2006-early 2007, I think i is and have never used NVision at all.
As for the other DVD copier programs that I mentioned, they are around still, I still have them saved on disc in storage. They are the same in principle as CXD but were fast: insert DVD to be copied into com's DVD R-RW hardware, insert a blank DVD5 or DVD9 disc into 2nd DVD RW machine (I have two DVD RW installed in com)choose full disc copy or Main Movie only , push Go, and within an hour, out pops the DVD backup.
I don't use them now, don't bother to d-load movies from the net, too many unknowns and no money back guarantee. I think that it is cheaper to buy the movie off the shelf than it is to d-load it from the internet. Just my opinion.
Why did I get this Stones movie, told that story above, also it was only a small d-load, hell, its give ne the run around........of course, had I a DVD player that addresses DivX, Xvid etc, I wouldn't ahve to go to all the bother of making an MPEG2 or a DVD Video_TS from the ,avi-cumDivX-cum XviD cum-elleon.
Had the pesky fellow that earns about NZ$3000 a week as a self employed builder got off his arse instead of onto mine, and gone out bought the damn thing I'd have been spared--gave in and got it to shut him up- I was thinking of buying it myself and making a backup from it to get some peace. He lives 1800Km away from me and I texted to ask if he could tell me whether his DVD machine had DivX/Xvid stamped on the front panel, couldn't tell me, couldn't even supply me with the FULL model number, make only...chances are that it does address the said formats, and I should've sent him a straight off the press copy....never have heard the end of it if it didn't play on his hardware...oh well.... all the present rigmarole started nine days ago and "Dad Bagged"- still has a question mark attached to it. Stinking hot here today in Invercargill NZ.....but, the HDD's cooled off, time to set it alight again.
I'm sure that the outcome will be as desired.
Let you know.
Nice call, MysticE.

ps: I even considered using the Editing facilities of NVision 5 to only transcode the bit of movie that was not corrupted from the overheat, but realizing that almost the full .VOB was not there, and that I could be making more work fior myself as I'm only a little conversant with editing procedures, I decided not to attempt it, re-transcoding from frame zero-zero was made a 'no other choice but to' definite when I realized the NTSC not PAL friend I had created.
ciao 4 now
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I'm back with the news that the transcode to PAL went without fault, auto burned to DVD5 -R disc and the result is about as good as its going to get. And as far as I am going with the project.
The created Video_TS folder contains all of the IFO, Bup and 4 Vob files, but the sound still becomes out of sync at the same place it starts at in any of the attempted format changes from the.avi(DivX) to MPEG2, NTSC, OR PAL structures.
In this conversion to PAL, the sound is slightly ahead of the visual, at an approximation I would say 100ms to 150ms, just enough to become annoying--I'll have Montezuma's revenge on my mate up north.
ha ha.
Even though I said that I've gone about as far as I think I can with this ,avi conversion, I delved into the chance to find out if perhaps the sync can be corrected, )in PAL and Mpeg2 shape.
I have used AVI-Mux_GUI 1.17.8 as mistycat suggested and opened each of the VOB files and noted that in the "delay[ms] box is a zero.
The generated data for each of the VOB files reads as follows:-

audio: MPEG 1, Layer 2[VBR, 2Ch,48kHz,bad 18463, 1.00GByte, VTS_01_1]
audio: MPEG 1, Layer 2[VBR, 2Ch,48kHz,bad 26691, 1.00GByte, VTS_01_2]
audio: MPEG 1, Layer 2[VBR, 2Ch,48kHz,bad 66151, 1.00GByte, VTS_01_3]
audio: MPEG 1, Layer 2[VBR, 2Ch,48kHz,bad 14379, 816Mbyte, VTS_01_4]
................. ...................

The only thing different in them are the numbers after the word 'bad': does this indicate 'bad' sections of the file/s?
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GSpotting (v2.70a) the NV PAL output folder / individual VOB's gives the following data:- ( and with the little knowledge that I have of using GSpot I can't really supply any info other than that which is displayed on screen. I will give what I consider to be key details for one only of the VOB files because they all produce basically the same data: an "Error: 0x80040207[unknown]" in both the Video and Audio 'Proposed Codec Solutions and Tests' section.

FILE
Path:F\VIDEO_TS_01_1.VOB
Size: 1,023MB [1,048,574KB / 1,073,739,776 bytes]

CONTAINER
MPEG-2 Program Stream << { 1 vid, 1 aud }
Sys Bitrate: 10080kb/s VBR

USER DATA / METEDATA
[User] Created by Nero

AUDIO
Codec: MPEG-1 Layer 2.....[ CBR ]
Info: 0xc0: 48000Hz 224kb/s tot, stereo

VIDEO
......(c/S)...............................................
Codec: MPEG Name: MPEG-2
Status: Codecs installed
[I:B:S] 7: 26%: 67%
[B:B] 2 max, [I:I] 15max; N=15, M=3 (99%)
--------------------------------------
......(t).................................................
Len: 17:09:640; Frms:25,741; kbps:7982; Qf:0.770
Pics/s 25.000; Frames/s: 25.000; Fields/s 50.000
[I/L] [BFF] [PAL]
---------------------------------------

.......d..................................................
pic: (wx: 720x576 4/3
sar: 1.250 [5:4] par: 1.067 [16:15] dar: 1.433 [4:3]
----------------------------------------------------------
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PROPOSED CODEC SOLUTIONS AND TESTS
GSpot:
VIDEO ( using Tab 2 to view)
[Src]..>>..[A]..>[MPEG-2 Demultiplexer]>....>[ffdshow raw video filter]>..[C]..>[Video Renderer]::
failed to connect output pin 0x00a5a89c("Video")on MPEG2 Demultiplexer to input pin 0x0733092c("In")on filter 0x02384037["ffdshow raw video filter"]. connectDirect()failed. Error: 0x80040207: [unknown]
.......... .............
[Src]..>>..[A]..>[MPEG-2 Splitter]>....>[ffdshow raw video filter]>..[C]..>[Video Renderer]::
failed to connect output pin 0x00a591fc("Video")on MPEG2 Splitter to input pin 0x07338364("In")on filter 0x02384037["ffdshow raw video filter"]. connectDirect()failed. Error: 0x80040207: [unknown]
............. ...............

[Src]..>>..[A]..>[MPEG-2 Demultiplexer]>....>[DScaler Mpeg2 Video Decoder]>..[C]..>[Nero Digital Video Enc-8]>..[D]Video Renderer::failed to connect output pin 0x0770fdc4("Mpeg4")on Nero Digital Video Enc 8 to input pin 0x00a5f58c["VMR Input0"]on filter 0x01f9f8d5["Video Renderer"].ConnectDirect()failed. Error: 0x80040207: [unknown]
............. ...............

[Src]..>>..[A]..>[MPEG-2 Demultiplexer]>....>[Nero Video Decoder]>..[C]..>[XFW: DivX 6.8.5 YV12 Decoder]>..[D]Video Renderer::failed to create instance of Nero Video Decoder. CoCreateInstance()failed. Error: 0x80040295: [unknown]
................ .................

The above entry repeats itself here. (?..shrug)
.......... ........... .......... .........

[Src]..>>..[A]..>[MPEG-2 Demultiplexer]>....>[GPL MPEG 1/2 Decoder]>..[C]..>[VFW. IYUV codec]>..[D]Video Renderer::
failed to connect output pin 0x00a8542c("XForm Out")on Intel IYUV codec to input pin 0x04785df4["Input"]on filter 0x01fc4bbc["Video Renderer"].ConnectDirect()failed. Error: 0x80040207: [unknown]
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AUDIO ( using Tab 2 to view)
[Src]..>>..[A]..>[MPEG-2 Demultiplexer]>....>[ACM:MPEG Layer-3 Audio Codec for MSACM]>[C]..>[Default DirectSound Device]::
Failed to connect Output pin 0x00a7899c["MPEG-1"]on MPEG-2 Demultiplexer to Input pin 0x00a7827c["Input"]on filter 0x01f893e4["MPEG Layer-3 Audio codec for MSACM"]. ConnectDirect() failed. Error:0x80040200:[unknown]
................. ..................


[Src]..>>..[A]..>[MPEG-2 Demultiplexer]>....>[ffdshow Audio Decoder]>[C]..>[Default DirectSound Device]::
Audio Render OK. Use [3] to play (click tab 3 but hear no sound)
............... ...............

[Src]..>>..[A]..>[MPEG-2 Demultiplexer]>....>[MPEG Layer-3 Decoder]>[C]..>[Default DirectSound Device]::
Failed to connect Output pin 0x00a7febc["MPEG-1"]on MPEG-2 Demultiplexer to Input pin 0x00a7f64c["XForm In"]on filter 0x02077344["MPEG Layer-3 Audio Decoder"]. ConnectDirect() failed. Error:0x80040207:[unknown]
................. ..................


[Src]..>>..[A]..>[MPEG-2 Demultiplexer]>....>[DScaler Audio Decoder]>[C]..>[Default DirectSound Device]::
Audio Render OK. Use [3] to play (click tab 3 but hear no sound)[/i]


[Src]..>>..[A]..>[MPEG-2 Demultiplexer]>....>[MPEG Layer-3Decoder]>[C]..>[Default DirectSound Device]::
failed to connect output pin 0x00a7febc("Mpeg-1")on MPEG-2 Demultiplexer to input pin 0x00a7f64c["XForm IN"]on filter 0x02077344["MPEG Layer-3 Decoder"].ConnectDirect()failed. Error: 0x80040200: [unknown]
..................... ....................

[Src]..>>..[A]..>[MPEG-2 Demultiplexer]>....>[DScaler Audio Decoder]>[C]..>[Default DirectSound Device]::
Audio Render OK. Use [3] to play ( click tab 3, no sound)
.................. ...................

Above entry repeats itself here.
................... .........................

[Src]..>>..[A]..>[MPEG-2 Splitter]>....>[ACM:MPEG Layer-3 Audio Codec for MSACM]>[C]..>[Default DirectSound Device]::
failed to connect output pin 0x00a7b45c("Audio")on MPEG-2 Splitter to input pin 0x00a7b0dc["Input"]on filter 0x01f893e4["MPEG Layer-3 Audio Codec for MASCM"].ConnectDirect()failed. Error: 0x80040200: [unknown]

...... .......... ............ ............
just wondering if there is a software or hardware problem with my computer: or perhaps my head. hahahahahahah
Throw in the towel, buy a DVD player that will play DivX/Xvid formatted files..
send my mate the PAL, the .avi DivX/Xvid discs and throw in a MPEG2 for the hell of it: and tell him that its available at the Warehouse for NZ$20.00 :}
Cheers, now for some reading....

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Devil for punishment I am -(titter)
I have played the original .avi from start to the point where can actually see where the sync problem first occurs, it is at the 0hr:48min:and somewhere in the 15 to 17 second time span. Cant see exactly where it starts because Jagger is moving too fast and his back is to the camera and when his ugly mug is in shot his face/mouth is partially covered. But once the movie gets to the 48min 17sec point the out of sync is discernible: from there on the sync is out, estimated guess is 250ms to 350/400ms.
Also, a second or thereabouts- take300ms- before the mentioned 2sec difficult to get a hold of visual clarity frames, there is a 'blip' in the visual, it sort of sticks for that fraction of a second and after that, the A?V sync is out full time.
I've toyed with the idea of using the Nero Movie Maker or the Windows Movie maker to edit the audio track at the known point where the sync issue occurs, separate the audio from video and shift the audio the required amount of msecs to sync it with video. Just an idea to kill sunday and learn about editing etc:- I did a little editing a bout 18-24months back, after I had bought my first DVD RW machine and another mate in Auckland wanted me to do some editing of footage he had made with a DV CAM: stuff about up and coming bands and getting on the case of the Local Governments, seriously questioning the Council Members at Public forums. He had bought 3o minute slots on the "Triangle TV' station on which he was broadcasting his " NewsTV" show. My com not really up to editing from his Mini-HD DV CAM, Graphics card only a Radeon 9000 Series, not enough oomph in it, 32MB RAM...He bought a PowerMac and I generously got him "The Final Cut Pro' gratis, from 'The Words Greatest SuperStore" He's doing well now, won't let me play with his toy though, " NO MORE MR. NICE GUY, huh"!!!!
Anyway, I digress.....This out of sync problem that exists, is this a possibility: because the sync issue doesn't happen till 75% of the way into the .avi movie, could this be a reason for the audio going out of sync at the 19min 46sec on any of the MPEG 2 and DVD VIDEO_TS formats I have tried to create from the .avi?
As I said here last night, using AVI-MUX, VirtualDub, et al, there is not a visible show of audio delay being present in any version of the movie. That makes me wonder, about many possibilities.
Don't really think its worth the candle to attempt an edit of the .avi file but -shrug- might be a knowledge gaining exercise for me.
I would be interested to know your thoughts and opinions of the late showup of sync issue in the .avi movie and its 'perhaps ' effect on the converted versions that becomes visible from the 19min 46sec point in playtime affecting the remainder of the movie's sync.

 

MysticE, I used VSO CXD 3.2.3.81 to convert the 1.92GB .avi file to a 2.8GB DVD5 format: 2.BUP's, 2.IFO's and 5 .VOB files. Time to convert was <120>mins. I didn't set CXD to burn to disc, and will view the output from the created folder on HDD,
Excellent output but alas, I still have the sync issue coming in at 48min 15sec and there till end of the movie. See and hear the fraction of a second 'blip' where the movie gets out of sync.
I now think that either the source file, from where I got it, has this defect, or I have caused it myself when I d-loaded the .avi file. multi-tasking say, but I don't multi-task on computer when D-loading audio or movie files from the net or from Original optical media.
Hence my aversion to D-loading 8GB (DL) movies from the net, especially when they are going to take 1wk 3days to complete at 15kBps.
Not too bad I guess if there are 700 seeds serving the torrent to me. I did D-load through uTorrent a 998MB MP3 discography from The Pirate Bay that had 731 seeds, came in at 4000+ kBps and completed in under 17mins. That would be wonderful if the 7.2GB DVD version of the RnR Circus .torrent had that many seeds: it would be bagged in 2hrs, near enough.
Ha ha, I'm D'loading it now, though the D-load has been 'Paused' for 3 hrs while CXD had been at work and my checking the output from it. At the off last night, uT informed me that ETA = 1wk 3 days, 6 seeds, 2peers, DL speed of 7-11 kBps. Must have found some seeds and peers on the way last night, have 2.39GB, taken 14hr 51mins, DL speeds from 35kBps to 170kBps, ETA = 23hrs.
Shame that CXD could not fix the sync issue- but that's cool, neither could anything else. I now have the latest version of CXD in the arsenal, can't be bad eh.
Thanks for your time and helpful ideas.
gbroman