okay I was readin some other threads about gettin avi files to a dvd recordable format. now I have downlaoded some programs, but I am missing something, and my brain is tired right now after reading through many guides. now I have TMPgenc, and WinAVI Video Converter. the problem -they both wont open my avi files. -I have downloaded windows media player 10.0 and upgraded some codecs(WM9Codecs) -I cannot see any video of either avi video when I open them, any help or direction wouldbe greatly appreciated.