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BD RB Beta released! - now at version 0.37.08 (April 23rd, 2011)

Discussion in 'DVD / BD-Rebuilder forum' started by Sophocles, Dec 26, 2008.

  1. taylen228

    taylen228 Guest

    yea these last few release from bd-rebuilder havent been workin to good alot movies getting failed to encode or failed to retreived audio...don't know why and some movies that i get done lately the audio dont match with the video like theres a delay on the audio or video its not in sync...but the movies that don't work wit bd-builder works fine wit dvdfab and ripbot...
     
  2. Sophocles

    Sophocles Senior member

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    Some audio tracks are too large to fit on a BD5 which is why they're reencoded to AC3. If you try to keep HD audio track it won't leave any space for video. If you feel a need to keep HD audio tracks then you should consider at the very least BD9 and if it's DTS going right to a 25Gb BD disc.

    BD read speed limits are regulated by the player. For example Many Home Units are limited to 3 times which could be an issue with playback of some recorded content.

    I'll look into audio synch issues.
     
  3. bdnewbie

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    Soph,

    I'm getting the same error "failure to encode" for both nature's most amazing events and how the earth was made.

    Can you help?

    Thanks
     
  4. Sophocles

    Sophocles Senior member

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    Try setting VC-1 to wmv9 in the FFDSHOW Video Decoder configuration and see if that works. Sometimes you have to try other settings in FFSHOW to get results, but always recall your previous settings so that you can restore them.
     
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    I did that and it gave me failure to encode right from the start. With VC-1 it failed at a later point...
     
  6. Sophocles

    Sophocles Senior member

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    bdnewbie

    Could you post your system specs including operating system version in your sig? If you've posted it already in a previous post it would require those who are trying to help you to go back to search for it which won't happen, and if not then it's important to do so in order to help find a solution.


    Please note to all others who might require some assistance. Please post your system specs in your sig or at least in your blog with the link to it in your sig.
     
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  7. cowboy619

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    Hey everybody,

    Quick question, that I could not find an answer to.

    Is there a way to choose between the theatrical version and the unrated version for blu-rays that have both on one disc ??

    I did not see any option in the settings of BD RB.

    There are a couple movies that I would like to have the unrated version instead of theatrical.

    Thanks !!
     
  8. RickWJ324

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    Hi All... I've been using BD-RB since it's release and it's a great product. Until this week I didn't have a Blu-Ray Burner, so I was burning as BD-9's. The process was taking BD-RB around 3-5 hours per movie. I just bought a Blu-Ray Burner and did my first BD-25. It took BD-RB over 11 hours to process it (movie only mode). I figured doing BD-25's would be less time consuming than BD-9's due to it not compressing it as much. Am I wrong to assume that? Is it normal to take THREE TIMES longer to do BD-25's over BD-9's??

    I don't have all of my exact specs in front of me, but I have a Quad Core pc with 4GB's of ram and am able to process BD-9's quickly. I just upgraded to Win7 64Bit and thought maybe that was the problem, but I have since tried another BD-9 process and it took a little over 3 hours. Processing the same movie to BD-25 took over 11 hours.

    Any suggestions?
     
  9. Sophocles

    Sophocles Senior member

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    That's way too long so something is not right with your setup. Which BD burner did you purchase, how many hard drives do you have, and how much space is there remaining on your hard drive(s)?

    If possible post your system specs.
     
  10. SLOVEHEAR

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    I'm no pro at BD-RB, but as you suspected BD9 usually takes much longer than BD25. I am running a Q6600 with Vista 32 bit and 4 GB memory - I can usually get a 32-37 GB down to 23,675mb (BD25) in 2-3 Hrs. max. the BD9 however takes 8-9 hours to process. I use the high speed (one-pass) option for BD25 creation - have you tried this - it still doesn't answer why your times are reversed. Are the options the same between the two types of encodes?
     
  11. Sophocles

    Sophocles Senior member

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    Happy Holidays to all AD members and in particular to all the members that are helping to pioneer the next generation High Definition backup method. That means a very special thanks to jdobbs for taking on the task and for the developers of X2.264 such as Dark Shakiri.

    Thanks to Creaky for making it a sticky.
     
  12. creaky

    creaky Moderator Staff Member

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    Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays to you Soph and everyone else at Afterdawn too, and to jdobbs for my favourite program DVD Rebuilder and his continuing work on BD Rebuilder also.
     
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    happy holidays to everyone
     
  14. durkinjt

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    Creaky, if I am not on the right board this time, I'll give up, this is my 3rd attempt. Here goes:

    hope this time I am on the right board, thought I was before, sorry Creaky. Here is what happened on my last attempt to do a rip.

    Originally Posted by durkinjt
    I have yet to complete a Rip with RB. Here was my latest try:
    - [01:17:38] Reencoding: VID_00087 (14 of 38)
    - [01:17:44] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00055]
    - [01:17:45] Reencoding: VID_00055 (15 of 38)
    - [01:17:51] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00039]
    - [01:17:51] Reencoding: VID_00039 (16 of 38)
    - [01:17:58] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00051]
    - [01:17:58] Reencoding: VID_00051 (17 of 38)
    - [01:18:04] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00065]
    - [01:18:05] Reencoding: VID_00065 (18 of 38)
    - Encode failed. Retrying.
    - Encode failed. Retrying.
    - Reached retry limit. Aborting.
    [01:18:08] - Failed video encode, aborted
    Any help?
     
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    What movie are you doing?

     
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  16. Sophocles

    Sophocles Senior member

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    durkinjt

    Without having much in the way of details I would say that you have a setup issue. Have you had any successful reencodes yet?
     
  17. binmax

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    Hey Soph,

    What would you suggest?

    I am building a Media Server to store all of my pictures, music, Blurays and DVDs and I was wondering about DVD9 vs. BD25. I know you are a big advocate for the DVD9 size movies and I was wondering about their comparisons in quality/compression. I currently am converting all of my BD25 files down to DVD9 files.

    1.) How is it possible to cram a 30gig movie down to DVD9 without losing quality?

    2.) Does it matter whether I rebuild the original disc down to DVD9 first, or do I get the same result if I rebuild the original disc down to a BD25 first, then rebuild it down to a DVD9? I essentially will have 2 copies of every movie and will run out of space.

    In a perfect world, I want to back up the original to a BD25 disc and then leave all of the DVD9 files on my server. If this is ideal without losing quality, then that's what I'll do. I am trying to go discless as much as possible and I have a 10TB server to hold it all.

    Any advice will be greatly considered !!
     
  18. Sophocles

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    The original physical size of movie is not the determining factor for a quality reduction. A lot of that size is HD audio, foreign language sound tracks, and extras. HD audio can alone be a very big space user. A movie is affected more by the total number of frames and that's determined by a movies run time. Also a lot of BD movies are actually encoded in good old fashion MPEG2 because even MPEG2 can achieve 1080P with a high enough bitrate which uses about 20gb of space. Check some of your originals and you'll be surprised to find that many are indeed MPEG2.

    Another point to consider is that BD movies often use more space than is required to achieve the final outcome. An encoder will measure for space and then assign a bitrate based on that space which in turn affects the size. The last point is perhaps the most important. X.264/H.264 is 3 to 4 times more efficient than MPGE2 so in theory if a 2 BD hour movie can be encoded in MPEG2 at 20 Gb then a third of that would be less than the space required for a 2 hour movie only (I always do movie only and I keep no HD audio)to fit on a BD9. In fact I do many movies in BD5. The last point is that there will be something lost but there's a difference between technical loss and actual visual loss. Do some experimenting and see what happens.

    It's always better to take your final product from a copy with all the original content in tact. IF you've been backing up to BD25 with no compression then everything will be fine, but if you've kept a lot of extras and HD audio tracks then you could have an issue. I never choose higher quality than DD64kbs and will not even reencode audio if a 448kbs track is available.


    Try a few experiments and then play them back on your hard disk before deciding what you'd prefer, because in the end it's whatever you will be happy with.
     
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  19. creaky

    creaky Moderator Staff Member

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    If anyone has ever seen any BD and BR Rips that are 'out there' you would be amazed at the quality that can be achieved, even down at the 1.5GB and under 4.6GB level.
    I don't profess to be knowledgeable on all things Bluray, not by a long shot, nor do i know much about how they're ripped/encoded, and for that matter i don't really know much about how and where people get the source data (to encode/re-encode/whatever) from much either, my point is simply the end result doesn't necessarily need to fill half a hard drive in order to look and sound good :)
     
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  20. durkinjt

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    Thanks for the reply. I have set this up 3x, folowed all instructions, still can't get a rip. Of course it is possible I set it up 3 X's and missed something.
     

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