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BD RB Beta released! - now at version 0.37.08 (April 23rd, 2011)

Discussion in 'DVD / BD-Rebuilder forum' started by Sophocles, Dec 26, 2008.

  1. mesman21

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    Speeding up your computer for encoding is not a simple fix. The process relies mostly on raw processing power, so the faster your processor the faster the encode (overclocking helps). It is also a multi-threaded application so the more cores the better. Since you computer is a few years old, and is a Dell, I doubt you can upgrade to a more recent processor, or overclock.

    Basically you need a new computer. Or at least a new motherboard and processor.
     
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    As mesman stated you're running things about as fast as your system can with what you have. You might be able to socket an older 65 NM Core2 such as a Q6600 or an E6700 which would be a considerable boost over what you have now, but that depends on your systems specs. Check to see what it is compatible with. The "D 800" series was Intel's slowest dual core processors.
     
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    How do i find out what my comps compatible with?
     
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    Tell us all that you can about your computer such as make and model number. Download a copy of CPUZ and provide us with screenshots, and perhaps we can help.
     
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    Giving a definitive answer regarding upgrades for a Dell XPS 200 is a bit of a crap shoot. According to Dell it has the Intel 945G express chipset which according to Intel is compatible with a Core 2 duo processor, but I wouldn't feel safe recommending it. Makers of manufactured rigs have a bad habit of lagging behind when it comes to bios updates and that could determine success or failure. Your best bet is to contact Dell and ask them what is possible.
     
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    Ok will do, thank you for all your help i really appreciate it. I invested a lot of money in being able to back up my BR's so I'M willing to do almost anything possible to make it happen
     
  8. mesman21

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    You guys may already know this, but if not, here goes...

    So after some investigating I found a way to use AviSynth scripts with BD-RB. All you have to do is copy and paste the script you want to use into the script BD-RB uses before it gets to the encoding stage. This could probably be used for a wide range of applications, I personally use it to re-size the video to 720p.

    Detailed instructions:

    1. Start BD-RB as normal, and start the backup.

    2. Go into the working folder, open the 'WORKFILES' folder, and find the VID_000XX.AVS file. This is the AviSynth script BD-RB uses for encoding the video.

    3. Open the file with AVSEdit and make the necessary changes. It should look something like this example below, the only change I have made is inserting the line 'LanczosResize(1280, 720)'

    #Created by BD Rebuilder - v0.17.13 (beta)
    video000X=DirectshowSource("C:\XX\XX\000XX.m2ts", fps=23.976, audio=false)
    video000X
    LanczosResize(1280, 720)
    ConvertToYV12()

    4. Save and you are done! BD-RB should follow the script. Make sure you finish editing the script before it starts the encode, otherwise it wont work. I just copy and paste, what I want right in.

    I haven't played around to much, but I have found inserting my code before the last line 'ConvertToYV12()' has worked. Re-Sizing success is confirmed as soon as the encode starts because BD-RB will report the following:
    '- Video: 1280x720, 23.976fps'

    Hopefully this save some people some trouble of figuring it out themselves. It has certainly made my encoding easier. This is an awesome program!
     
  9. ZoSoIV

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    to be honest you are going to need a custom built machine IMO it would be a total waste of time sinking a dime into that dell. if you start changing cores/mobos etc you will have cooling problems. the only way to do it right is to start over with at least something like i have or better. nice thing about building a new machine you can update it from year to year etc. as needed a box system your pretty much stuck with what you have
     
  10. Sophocles

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    It takes a lot of processing power to compress 20Gbs of video. Some time around Christmas 2009 Intel is going to release a 35nm 6 core i7 which should be interesting, but for it's either current EO stepping Core2 processors or the latest 45nm i7 processors. If you're prepared to do a new build today then you go with the current i7. If you've invested a few dollars into socket 775 and all that you need is an EO stepping Q9550 for less than $300 to get some real power then it would be better to wait for the 35nm i7s.


     
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    Sophocles my DVD Rebuilder times are about 30 to 35 mins with my Q9450 OC(ed) I will probably update when the 35nm i7s come out
     
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    Any idea what the x264 command line is for that? That sounds way too quick. I understand that CPU is quite fast but 35 mins??

    Motion search, subpixel refinement, reference frames, b-frames, adaptive b-frames and possibly even trellis must be set to really low quality settings and that must be a single pass encode.

    My encoding time is usually about 6 to 8 hours (MeGUI+x264) on a Q6600 OC'd to 3.0Ghz, and if I wanted to I could tweak the x264 encoder to take up to 20 hours or more. When I get a faster CPU (maybe one with 8 cores! Hehe), I will look at encoding with higher quality settings. :)

    Edit: Oh silly me!!! I just realised that you were referring to DVD Rebuilder times. Hehe... I will still leave my post as a reference for those curious about encoding times. I usually get times close to the 30 to 40 minute mark for Cinema Craft Encoder too (I can't reference DVD-RB times as I do everything manually). What are you doing posting DVD-RB times on the BD-RB thread anyway! LOL! :p
     
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    So who wants to PM me, with some tips and ideas/websites to go about building my own PC? ;]
     
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    I think that he's referring to standard Mpeg2 DVD-RB and it is likely that he will have some 2 pass reenecodes in the 35 minute range. On the system that I posted the screen shots for, I average about 30 to 35 minutes for prepare/encode/rebuild.


    ZoSoIV

    I'm waiting until the 35nm processors are released and in particular the 6 core i7 which should be out in about a year. That should bring in some good BD reencode times. In the meantime I've just completed a Q9550 EO stepping build this afternoon and have it clocked to 3.8 GHz thus far.
     
  16. ZoSoIV

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    you can stay right here at aD , read and post here

    http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/205/683586

    Sophocles let me know how the Q9550 works out!
     
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    You didn't see my edit? I also get similar CCE times with my Q6600. :)
     
  18. Sophocles

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    I guess not. I have a bad habit of skimming posts. I would like to say that I will change that behavior but I doubt it.:p

    Is your Q6600 overclocked? The Q9450 is stock at 2.66 GHz and the Q6600 at 2.4 GHz. If they were both clocked at the same speed the Q9450 would still be about 8% faster.

    ZoSoIV


    It's doing quite good so far but I've reached the limit of the RAM. I'm using 1066 Corsair Dominators' and at the speed shown in the screen shot below they are now running at 1100 MHz. Most 1066 RAM won't run much beyond their rated speed, but if I add some native 1150 RAM I should be able to easily hit around 3.85 GHz. The question is however Is it really worth the added cost?


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    Sophocles have you tryed DDR3 RAM ? From what I've heard you don't gain any performance using it
     
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    No I haven't I figure the minor speed gains wouldn't be worth the additional costs. As you know encoding is very CPU intensive. It does benefit to a small point with faster RAM but not by enough to justify the costs. I did and experiment with hard drives using DVD RB. I used a 300 GB 700rpm Seagate and a 150 GB 10,000 rpm Raptor. The Raptor shaved about half a minute from prepare, 11 minutes from encode phase, and a full 3.5 minutes from rebuild. So it would seem that reading and writing to the hard drive has some effect on time and memory might add a few more minutes, but it's not that significant.

     

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