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Brand: Taiyo Yuden

Discussion in 'CD-R(W) Media' started by no[i]se, Apr 27, 2002.

  1. no[i]se

    no[i]se Guest

    Burner : Liteon LTR-32123S XS0R (SmartBurn on)
    Program : Nero, CDSpeed 0.85e
    Readers : Liteon LTD-163D GHR3 for Surface Scan and Pioneer DVD-106S for File Scan

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    Media 1 : CDR-80TY (16x)
    Result :

    Speed,File Scan,Surface Scan (Damaged), Surface Scan (Unreadable)
    32x,0,>50000,0
    16x,0,~500,0
    12x,0,0,0

    ATIP: 97m 24s 01f
    Disc Manufacturer: Taiyo Yuden Company Ltd.
    Reflective layer: Dye (Long strategy; e.g. Cyanine, Azo etc.)
    Media type: CD-Recordable
    Recording Speeds: min. unknown - max. unknown
    nominal Capacity: 702.83MB (79m 59s 74f / LBA: 359849)

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    Media 2 : CDR-74SY, (24x Super Cyanine II)

    Result :

    Speed,File Scan,Surface Scan (Damaged), Surface Scan (Unreadable)
    32x,0,<100,0
    24x,0,0,0

    ATIP: 97m 24s 01f
    Disc Manufacturer: Taiyo Yuden Company Ltd.
    Reflective layer: Dye (Long strategy; e.g. Cyanine, Azo etc.)
    Media type: CD-Recordable
    Recording Speeds: min. unknown - max. unknown
    nominal Capacity: 656.40MB (74m 43s 01f / LBA: 336076)

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  2. jase

    jase Guest

    Poor results there, and I must say I'm quite surprised. Litey need to take a good look at their compatibility with TY discs because I've noticed this problem with their other drives as well.
     
  3. no[i]se

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    I have upgraded the firmware to XS0U.

    It is now possible to burn the 16x TY disks in 16x speed without "Damaged" sectors. However, the disk will form a weave pattern.

    As a result, I will burn these disks at 12x.
     
  4. fantasy

    fantasy Guest

    It seems that Taiyo Yuden are packaged/distributed by other companies. Would you tell me what are the packager/distributors of Taiyo Yuden ? I just can't find them ....
    Thank you very much.
     
  5. Telstar

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    In the US, all Fujifilm CD-Rs are made by Taiyo Yuden so far. Memorex (32X and 40X) and TDK (32X only) also have some of their CD-Rs made by TY, as long as they are made in Japan.

    If you can still find the HP CD-Rs at Sears, they are probably made by TY, although rated at lower speed.

     
  6. fantasy

    fantasy Guest

    Thank you very much for your reply, it is very helpful. I have checked some TDK, they are made by TY :)
     
  7. no[i]se

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    Writer : Lite-on 40125S ZS0N
    Media : TY 32x (same as above)

    Now I can burn them at 40x w/o single surface error! Seems that the new firmware has improved the compatibility with TY media!
     
  8. no[i]se

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    Bad news.... The new firmware has not improved its compatibility of the old TY media. I have bought some Yamaha 20x (TY) but my Lite-on supports 16x onlu w/ smartburn enabled. If I disable smartburn and burn them at 20x, there will be (recoverable) read errors. :~<

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    ATIP: 97m 24s 01f
    Disc Manufacturer: Taiyo Yuden Company Ltd.
    Reflective layer: Dye (Long strategy; e.g. Cyanine, Azo etc.)
    Media type: CD-Recordable
    Recording Speeds: min. unknown - max. unknown
    nominal Capacity: 702.83MB (79m 59s 74f / LBA: 359849)

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    Manufacturer : Taiyo Yuden
    Code : 97m24s01f
    Disc Type : CD-R
    Usage : General
    Recording Layer : Dye Type 1: Long Strategy (Cyanine, AZO)
    Recording Speed : n/a
    Capacity : 79:59.74
    703 MB
    Additional Capacity : n/a
    Overburn Capacity : 82:34.28 (725 MB)

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  9. A_Klingon

    A_Klingon Moderator Staff Member

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    I just bought 300 (three, 100-unit spindle packs) of the Taiyo Yuden discs from a local computer shop for $39.88 Canadian each ($25.19 US; 16-1/4 UK pounds), which is (of course) .40c each Canadian, or .25c American, or 16 pence, UK.

    The ATIP is (precisely) identical to the first ATIP reading given by nose above, i.e.:

    ATIP: 97m 24s 01f
    Disc Manufacturer: Taiyo Yuden Company Ltd.
    Recording Layer: Dye (Long strategy; e.g. Cyanine Azo, etc.)
    Media Type: CD-Recordable
    Nominal Capacity: 702.83 MB (79m 59s 74f / LBA: 359849
    Recording Speeds: min. unknown, max: unknown

    Light blue/aqua, clear unmarked silver tops, no buff protection, 80-min/700 MB. Absolutely no markings on outside plastic spindle. (No-name; generic).

    I have to admit, not one of these discs has failed me, after about 30 burns'-worth. I'm using a Panasonic cdrw.

    True, I've only used them at either 2x or 4x speed (for VideoCDs), but also, no problems with data or music discs at 8x speed.

    -- Mike --
     
  10. Racemann

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    A_Klingon, mind if I ask you where you got those TY's?
     
  11. A_Klingon

    A_Klingon Moderator Staff Member

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    At a private computer supply/repair shop, locally.

    'PC Medic'
    Robie Street,
    Halifax Nova Scotia

    They also have a branch (retail) store over in Burnside, Dartmouth.

    I can get the exact address and phone number for you if you live nearby.

    The discs work wonderfully for me, not one coaster in the lot. These spindle packs sell awfully quickly, so you have to scoop 'em up while they're available. The guy at the (Halifax) counter said they often have a hard time keeping up with demand, but they've just ordered-in a whole new supply.

    (You just have to treat them with care; there's no buff-protection on the top).

    Since my last post, I'm now into my second spindle-pack. (I'm doing a *lot* of backups).

    Hope this helps.

    -- Klingy --
     
  12. Racemann

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    I'm afraid that it's a bit too far for me [Markham, ONT].

    But I suppose you can post the info anyways for someone else who might be interested in them.
     
  13. A_Klingon

    A_Klingon Moderator Staff Member

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    Yes, this site is truly international in nature, which probably explains why there are so many great people here!! (shameless plug) :)

    PC MEDIC
    2760 Robie Street,
    Halifax, N.S.
    B3K 4N8
    (902) 455-4357

    (or)

    PC MEDIC
    50 Akerley Blvd.,
    Dartmouth, Nova Scotia
    B3B 1R8
    (902) 468-7237

    (or just...) www.pcmedicdirect.com

    The TY discs aren't listed on the website though, as they are "in-house" specials. I can't imagine that Markham wouldn't also have scads of local computer shops that would offer equivalent values.

    -- Klingy --
     

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