burning copy protected dvds

Once in a while Shrink will encounter a movie that it don't like. Since it seems to be that time for you then I suggest you rip with Decrypter first. Pay attention to where they go. Then you can open the ripped files in Shrink and continue what you normally do with shrink.

 

I tried to do this, as this was my first reaction, and another error came up but didnt have time to read it before my parents closed it
Any ideas?

 

Scubapete, Bigorange or anyone,

I just received a batch of DVD-R 8X Ritek G05 disks. And my problem is that when I inserted into the DVD burner (Micro Advantage Superdrive), then open DVD Decrypter to burn, DVD Decryter reads the disk and it says that it can only burn at 1X, 2X. I had the same situation with Fujifilm DVD-R 8x. Yesterday I put in 2 DVD+Rs Fujifilm and it let me record at 4X,6x or 8X. Which on I burned one at 4X and one at 6x. I know that the specifications for my drive says that it can burn DVD-R at a max speed of 4x. But is only doing half. Frustrated... Any help??
Please let me know what I'm doing wrong is the Burner or the media? I want to slap this burner up against the wall...

Thanks in advance

 

Here's exactly what DVD Decrytor reads on the disks that I'm refering to:

The following is Ritek DVD-R 8X

DVDRW IDE1008 0059 (ATA)
Current Profile: DVD-R

Disc Information:
Status: Empty
Erasable: No
Free Sectors: 2,298,496
Free Space: 4,707,319,808 bytes
Free Time: 510:48:46 (MM:SS:FF)
Supported Write Speeds: 1x, 2x

Pre-recorded Information:
Manufacturer ID: RITEKG05

Physical Format Information (Last Recorded):
Book Type: DVD-R
Part Version: 5
Disc Size: 120mm
Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified
Number of Layers: 1
Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP)
Linear Density: 0.267 um/bit
Track Density: 0.74 um/track
First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196,608
Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 0
Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 0

Here's Fujifilm DVD-R 8X
DVDRW IDE1008 0059 (ATA)
Current Profile: DVD-R

Disc Information:
Status: Empty
Erasable: No
Free Sectors: 2,298,496
Free Space: 4,707,319,808 bytes
Free Time: 510:48:46 (MM:SS:FF)
Supported Write Speeds: 1x, 2x

Pre-recorded Information:
Manufacturer ID: FUJIFILM03

Physical Format Information (Last Recorded):
Book Type: DVD-R
Part Version: 5
Disc Size: 120mm
Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified
Number of Layers: 1
Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP)
Linear Density: 0.267 um/bit
Track Density: 0.74 um/track
First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196,608
Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 0
Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 0

And to top it off Fujifilm DVD+R 8X:

DVDRW IDE1008 0059 (ATA)
Current Profile: DVD+R

Disc Information:
Status: Empty
Erasable: No
Free Sectors: 2,295,104
Free Space: 4,700,372,992 bytes
Free Time: 510:03:29 (MM:SS:FF)
Supported Write Speeds: 4x, 6x, 8x

Physical Format Information (Last Recorded):
Disc ID: YUDEN000-T02-00
Book Type: DVD+R
Part Version: 1
Disc Size: 120mm
Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified
Number of Layers: 1
Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP)
Linear Density: 0.267 um/bit
Track Density: 0.74 um/track
First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196,608
Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 2,491,711
Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 0

 

Thanks for the insight guys. I am trying to back up an original copy of the DVD and I tried to clean with alcohol as suggested. I still received the errors after cleaning from both decrypter and shrink. There are a couple of very fine scratches, but I didn't think this would be enough to cause problems. The media that I am burning to is Ritek-G05 and I haven't had problems with it yet, other than my burner will only burn it at 4x. I hope that NEC will put out a firmware upgrade sometime to accept this media to burn at 8x as the burner is supposed to. I have some cheap Pro Disc +R that burn at 8x without a problem and work fine in the PS2 afterwards.

I appreciate the ideas to fix the problem with the redundancy error, it is getting redundant to see it time and time again as I retry .

gimpie

 

xklante, it sounds like it's your burner to me. There is nothing wrong with that media, in fact it's what i use, or the G04. Your burner doesn't sound like it's compatible with the media, you may have to flash it. I am not familiar with that brand, but it definitely sounds like firmware update time..

Someone else,(I believe in this thread) had the same problem, and they went out and bought a PLextor, problem solved. Good brands of burners are Plextor(imo, the best), NEC, LiteOn, and Pioneer. I am not recommending you go out and buy a burner, just giving you some info.

Let me conclude by saying this, usually the faster the burn, the more the errors. Even tho I can burn at 12x, I NEVER do. I burn all my dvd's at 4x and sometimes even 2.4x if the situation warrants.

I've never understood the need to save 10 minutes when you're dealing with something that'll last for years if burned and handled correctly. Not to mention the media is costlier the higher you go with the burn speed. But, that's just my take on it.

 

gimpie, again, let me say that there is nothing wrong with the Riteks. All I use is the G05 and G04 or the branded ridata 4x, never had a problem w/them. In 400 burns only 1 bad disc. I would stay away from the cheap prodiscs. If the only reason you're using them is to burn faster, i think that's a big mistake.

As I just told xklante, burning at higher speeds causes more errors, not to mention the cost of the media is much higher, especially buying in packs of 100 or more.

Why save 5-10 minutes burning, increasing the risk of errors or a bad burn? If burned correctly this disc will last a lifetime, I just don't think it's worth the risk. As posted earlier i even burn at 2.4x and know people that won't burn any higher than 2.4x and they've been in this business a looong time.

Anyway that's my 2 cents(which probably isn't worth 1 cent,lol). As far as your redundancy error, I'm not sure, as Pete stated, that usually is a media or compatibility error. A firmware update may be in order. If you do flash your drive, be careful, you can really screw it up if you don't know what you're doing. Good luck.....:>)
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Thanks for everyones help! I have copied 3 dvds so far, but when i go to copy certain dvds i get the error message "dvd shrink encountered an error and cannnot continue. Programming error - exception occurred" Yet i have no problem with some DVDs. I dont have burn with nero enabled so thats not the problem. It is the same one that tyeshab04 had on 16 september 2004 10:24, but i cant seem to be able to burn it. Im trying to burn eternal sunshine of the spotless mind. I also cant seem to format my harddrive to NTFS, if that is the problem. Can you help me?

 

I Have dvd XCopy xpress it will copy any dvd9 movie to dvd5 in 40 minutes and with absolutely no loss of quality. I know its not free but it@s so much easier, Just hit one Button and its done.

 

chrisk,

This is how to partition your hard drive from FAT32 to NTFS to do work with video files. Video files are some of the largest files you can work with on your PC and your HD needs room to move around. NTFS will handle 10g files while FAT32 only handles 4g files. OK, to begin:


1)click on: start

2)control panel

3)performance and maintenance

4)administrative tools

5)computer management

6)disk management

7)right click on the unused portion of your hard drive

8)click on new partition

9)you can also right-click free space in the extended partition, and then click New Logical Drive.


10)In the New Partition Wizard, click Next, click Primary partition, Extended partition, or Logical drive, and then follow the instructions on your screen.

NOTE-do NOT choose format or reformat, you could lose all your info and have to start all over. All you are wanting to do is split your HD into two file systems. Use so much for FAT32 and so much(the bulk) for NTFS, that will be plenty of space to do all your video work on, but make sure you delete all video files when a project is completed successfully to keep plenty of free space..


If you feel uncomfortable doing this you can use partition magic 8 It makes it real easy. all you need is the free version.

You will have to wait a little while as your PC takes some time to do this function. When done you are ready for the biggest video file!

Good luck.....

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ok, i have my hard drive in NTFS, but i still keep getting that error message for some movies, any ideas?

 

I read somewhere that some of the dvd copy software will not work with the dual layer drives even if you are copying onto a single layer media. Is that true when using DVDDecrypter and DVDShrink? I would like to get a dual layer drive since they are no more expensive than regular ones? You guys talk a lot more about the quality of the disk than about the drives themselves - so I assume that I can buy based on price?

Also when using the above 2 products, is there a way to copy the movie (and chapters) without any compression so that it just spans 2 disks if needed?

Thanks

 

-biorange-
I bought the prodisc's just to play around and to see if +R would be read in my PS2. I wanted to figure out which format to burn my backups in +/-. Both have worked fine, so I think I will stick with - as I have a stack of Riteks to burn through. I only have about 10 of them (Pro Disc), and will not buy them again, I haven't had problems, but from what I have read in the last couple weeks, it is just a matter of time before I have a handful of frisbies to play with. I am not in a big hurry to flash my drive as I just got it a couple weeks ago and am not so pressed to save 8 minutes to burn faster. I just thought it would be nice to be able to, since the drive and media are both supposed to burn at 8x. I will stick with the Ritek media as it works great for me.

-ubu-
I have a dual layer drive in my laptop that was recently purchased, made by NEC. I have had no problems other than user mistakes when it comes to burning DVD's. I haven't tried to burn a DL disc, a little to expensive for my taste, and who needs to with great programs like shrink and decrypter. Paired together they make excellent copies and have some good features to do so in a few simple steps.

 

I recently copied Godfather and it came out fine, I used DVD decrypter and DVD Shrink, Also I have Nero 6 installed.
The backup files are still in my hard disk and I want to make another copy of the movie.
But when I try to do that it says "your source and destination folder are same".
Can I burn those files straight using NEro, will it give a full movie with all the menus?
Also I am not sure if I am buring using NEro or Decrypter. Where can I check that and which is a better option?

 

Hi All,

chrisk72,

You'll need to try to rip it with DVD Decrypter in the "File" made then pickup the files with DVD Shrink and process as usual.

At DVD Digital Forum the DVD Shrink experts are saying to use DVD Shrink 3.17 - it'll do it with out a problem

Cheers,


Hi ozzy1,

So sorry, so untrue - first the quality is worse that the new 3.2 DVD Shrink. Secondly, DVD XCopy needs 4 mouse clicks and after DVD Shrink is setup, it takes only 3 mousie clickie thingies

Also, when speaking about the so-called 1-click encoders, there are many far better than DVD XCopy.

Stick around, we almost all of us bought DVD XCopy and later realize that we were "screwed". Play with some of our programs and you'll change your mind too -

Cheers, my new friend, you'll learn -


Hi ubu,

NO, DVD Shrink is dual-layered compatible.

No way, buy on quality NEVER price (unless your rich AND dumb, in that case send me a bucket of $50.00's (Lol)

That's why there are 2 layers - so you'll need no compression. If you copy Just the movie, you'll have your full menus and chapters and pop-corn (Lol) most of the time without compression. It depends on the DVD. With dual-layered, you'll do it all the time.

Cheers,

Pete

 

I am using DVD Decrypter and DVD Shrink. I have the following settings already as default. Can you please advise if it's alright or changing it can give me better resutls.
DVD Decrypter - Tools - Settings - I/o . Under this option, for Interface I have following options.
ASPI - WINASPI32.DLL
ASAPI - ASAPI.DLL
SPTI - MICROSOFT
ALBYCDIO - ELABORATE BYTES
PATIN - COUFFIN - VSO SOFTWARE
Out of all these options, SPTI - Microsoft is selected by default. My burnings are going except itt akes a long time to Ananlyze and Backup the disk. Please advise if the settings are correct and if changing them can make any better.

 

jockey,

in shrink 3.2 to burn with nero go to edit>preferences>fileI/O>check enable burn with nero.

to burn with decrypter, uncheck enable with nero, after hitting backup(when all your editing and custom compression is ready)a window will pop up called backup dvd, the 1st tab is target device. From the drop down menu choose "burn with decrypter using ISO files".

Finally if you have nero ultra 6, open nero express. Then open a seperate window with your backup files. Click and drag that ENTIRE folder to the VIDEO_TS folder in nero express(ignore the AUDIO_TS folder). It will automatically pick the files from the folder it needs. Hit next, select your burner and burn speed and hit burn. DONE. ;>)
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jockey, also in decrypter I use the default setting SPTI-microsoft, in general i do have my setting changed from normal to aggresive for ripping purposes.

[bold]My burnings are going except it takes a long time to Ananlyze and Backup the disk. Please advise if the settings are correct and if changing them can make any better[/bold]

If you are using the new quality settings in shrink 3.2 (which are located in the above window I just told you about under quality settings)it will increase times dramatically, but is well worth the extra time on compression over 10%.

This will affect encoding times, but shouldn't affect analyzing times which should only take 1-2 minutes when 1st opening shrink. Are you confusing the two?

 

Dvd shrink and Deycripter arent that good i think,
with 1 dvd i burnt when i was watching it it some times jumped scenes and with another my ps2 couldnt even read it.(its not my ps2 as its read every other 1)

 

@xklante...
I've noticed from browsing the shelves at the local stores that alot of the Sony dual format burners have higher rated burn speeds for + media than for - media. (There's a sticker on the box that says you can get a patch from Sony to make them even for more $) So maybe your drive might be like the Sony drives in that manner.

@dolz85...
Really need to know the error from decrypter to keep this troubleshooting going. Can you try the same fillm again without parental interuption?