burning copy protected dvds

Hi!! Well I am almost a tad embarassed to say this, but after about 5 days of trying to burn a DVD, finally I got it to work.. and I found all my woes were due to one stupid thing... Since I am using XP, I have multiple users on the computer, just so my roommate has her own and I have mine. Well, her's is the guest one and apparently, DVD Shrink/Nero/Decrypter do not like to function properly while signed onto the guest. As soon as I switched to mine, the main user, all the problems went away... it still takes a while (about 2 hours) but I attribute that to my 256RAM. I did just purchase another 256, so hopefully I can chop that down. Maybe this can help some poor other soul like myself... Ah, how wonderful it feels to finally have burned my very own DVD Thanks so much for all the help!!!!!!

 

pattykmn and oukie, you are exactly right! It was late and I must have been experiencing Brain drain, I totally missed the windows 98.

I agree with Pete tho, no need to run 2 OS's and I would definitely go to XP, you'll be glad you did.

Again, sorry about the mixup, 5 lashes with the whip!

 

Ha ha,ok, 1.. 2.. 3....

I know I know, I need to make the switch. I did get my son's computer with XP on it, so at least he won't be in the dark ages like me
I'm sort of waiting for my 98se to mess up, then rather than reformat I will make the switch to XP. It's just that I've given so much [bold]TLC[/bold] to my win98 that it works really well! Did I mention I forgot to get rid of Roxio before I tried my first backup!? That along with my cheap media and questionable brand of burner was really a risk.. and it worked out beautifully

Anyway, my real question now is the same as the last few people's... My backup also took [bold]2 hours[/bold] for DVDShrink to run. After that the burn was about 13 minutes which I figure is about right - I have an 8x burner but was using 4x media.

I have Athlon AMD XP 2000
384 MB RAM
120GB HD
Win98SE
MicroAdvantage dual-format 8x DVD burner
Some old Memorex CD burner I never use but is still hooked up....
I had only explorer and systray and one other thing going when I started.
I am connected to the internet all the time (but could hit the standby if it'll help)
And I checked to make sure my burner was set to DMA way ahead of time.
So like the other guys, what is it that's taking so long?

There was something about my ASPI (or whatever those are to go between your program and your hardware) that said mine is version one.... probably outdated hu? Probably a 98vsXP thing, hu? Any help...?

Thanks!

 

What should I select for DirectX video renderer (in preferences/preview)? I've read that this setting could affect the speed, and two things I read suggested the VMR9 setting (though I have no idea what that means).
Mine is set at "system default renderer".
Will I see improvement in speed if I change it to VMR9?
What does VMR9 mean anyway?

thanks! --told you I wanted to learn more

 

Pattykmn, I had that microadvantage burner and could't do a thing. I uninstalled it and bought a suggested burner (Plextor) using shrink and decrypter and have no problems. It takes shrink anywhere from 1 hour 20 minutes to 1 hour 41 minutes to rip depending on the movie. I did have a promblem backing up Legally Blonde 2. I wound up with 2 coasters but I wasn't going to give up. I knew everything was working but couldn't figure out what was going on. I had cleaned my original with alcohol but I could see something on it so I used the alcohol again any really cleaned it. PRESTO....it worked. By the way sometimes shrink finds an error when the dvd is dirty and sometimes it goes to all the way to decryper and it finds the error. I thought the software was too sophisticated for microadvantage. I did read that someone else was having the same problems with the microadvantage and he took his burner out, returned it too, and got a recommended brand ie. LiteOn, Nec or Plextor. Good Luck

 

pattykmn, i use the default setting in Direct x video renderer.

here's a couple of links on ASPI, check out the 2nd one 1st. AsPI layer can be confusing, even for oldtimers, this link does a fair job of explaining them.(The 1st link is here in AD)

http://www.afterdawn.com/guides/archive/aspisetup.cfm

http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~aa571/aspi.htm

This is a must for DVD burning. If you have Nero Ultra 6, open toolkit and click on the infotool, then on ASPI layers, this should tell you about your ASPI. There is a drop down menu for system(should be 4) and nero(should be 1) ASPI.

I use force aspi, there is a little tool called aspichk, it's free, and it will tell you if your aspi layer is working properly.

I am still not a fan of your burner, listen to nailedny, she had similar problems(among some others, right nailedny?, heh heh) and went to a plextor.



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I'm new to DVD burning!!! How new, I'm just starting today. I downloaded the newest DVD decryter and DVD Shrink. From reading msgs on this forum, that is what everyone recommends. I have read Scuba's articles on how to do things, but I get confused very easily. Can you please please break it down into simple english in and as few steps as possible using these 2 software programs to burn the movie Finding Nemo for my child who turns 5 in 1 wk. I mean I want it so simple like put dvd in now, then go this program to copy, etc. etc. Thank you very much. I am the clueless one here in this forum

 

I’ve tried using the guide and my dvd come out great with only one exception ill be watching the movie and all of a sudden it stop playing. When it gets stuck I can’t go forward, backward or chapter back or forth. I’ll have to restart the movie and fast forward past the spot. This doesn’t happened with every movie I copy but it dos seem to happen allot.
I was using dvdxcopy and I thought it was the problem but dvdshrink dos the same thing.

 

mtfred,

what kind of media are you using to burn your backups to? It sounds like this is your problem since it doesn't happen all the time. Try picking ups some branded Ritek g04 or g05 from newegg or meritline. These discs only cost about 50 cents each and work great. Read back through the forum and there will be some other types suggested and not suggested, but cheap media will cause a lot of problems when it comes to playback.

gimpie

 

I read the problems others had with the MicroAdvantage burner, but the thing is, mine worked great! I've had it for so long there's no option of returning it....
I don't "think" the burner was causing my slowness. It burned just like it should when the time came. I don't even really mind the two hour decoding time, but when I heard others are doing it faster I just thought I'd ask too

I may purchase a regular DVDROM for playing/inputting the movies, but buying another burner is simply out of the question at this time. Let's just hope my MicroAdvantage holds out long enough for me to do what I want to do for now -- so far so good (if this burner is considered "less sophisticated", maybe it's working for me because I'm still running Win98!?)

Oh yeah.. the ASPI layer -- In Decrypter I get a "!" telling me that I do have an ASPI layer but that it is version one. I suppose this is the standard stuff that came with Win98?
My basic question: would updating the ASPI layer make DVDShrink decode faster? Or should I leave it alone as it does work fine with no errors? (just slow).

 

I’ve been using Philips brand dvd+r. It seemed to be a good brand.
I think I'll try recording it at 1x and see that makes any difference

 

GBham, I have written a very basic and simple shrink 3.2 guide using nero or decrypter to burn. It's on page 13 of this thread about 2/3 of the way down :>)

 

mtfred,

While burning at slower speeds does reduce the chance for errors (i usually burn at 2.4x to 4x but no higher), listen to gimpie. Media makes a HUGE difference!

I don't understand why people will listen to us about software, methods, hardware, etc., but won't when it comes to media. This is not CD or VHS recording. It is a whole new ballgame and media is one of the largest factors there is! I can't count the problems I've solved just having people switch their media.

Trust me on this, it may not seem a big deal, you think; well the quality might not be as good but I can live with that. Well I'm here to say it can cause it not to work at all or even if it does work you could come back a year or two later and voila! it doesn't work at all.

Also, good media doesn't mean you have to spend a ton of money. In fact some of the worse brands cost more than what I use. As gimpie mentioned use Ritek G04 4x -R or Ridata 4x +R. Make sure they are BRANDED! Costs a couple cents more, but it's well worth it to know what you're getting. You're still talking under .50 each w/free shipping!

A lot of brands farm out their media and one batch may be MCC or Ricoh(good) and the next may be CMC(bad). You want consistency, after buying all the hardware and software required to make DVD backup, why would anyone leave it to chance simply because they didn't buy reliable media?

The choice is up to you :>)

 

pattykmn,

Your burner wouldn't have anything to do with the program's slowness. Only with the burn itself. If it's working in that department there is no need to change.

Slowness problems are due to things like DMA settings, your processor, Ram, etc.

Did you go to those sites I told you about on ASPI?

They talk about windows 98 and what is needed. Also, did you DL ASPICHK and see what it said?

You must have a properly working ASPI layer. I use XP and am not as familiar with '98 but that site tells you exactly what to use on '98.

Before you try anything else, use ASPICHK and see if it tells you whether your ASPI is installed and working correctly. The latest drivers (version 4.72) from Adaptec are supposed to work under 98/ME/NT/2K/XP. The DL links are in that URL I gave you.

The four files needed for WinNT/2K/XP are the following:

WINNT\SYSTEM\WINASPI.DLL
WINNT\SYSTEM\WOWPOST.EXE
WINNT\SYSTEM32\WNASPI32.DLL
WINNT\SYSTEM32\DRIVERS\ASPI32.SYS

The four files needed for Win95/98/Me are the following:

WIN95\SYSTEM\IOSUBSYS\APIX.VXD
WIN95\SYSTEM\WINASPI.DLL
WIN95\SYSTEM\WNASPI32.DLL
and ONE of the following two files
WIN95\SYSTEM\ASPIENUM.VXD (this is the file that comes from Adaptec)
WIN95\ASPI2HLP.SYS (this is the file that comes with Win95)


As I said earlier I use Force ASPI and nero has it's own ASPI driver :>)

 

Try DVD43 instead its free and does the same job as anydvd does

 

[bold]Try DVD43 instead its free and does the same job as anydvd does[/bold]

Only version 1.4 is free and in order for it to work you must download patin couffin for it to work. Patin couffin has been known to cause problems in some peoples PC's.

Version 2.0 is standalone, but costs the same as anydvd, if you are gonna buy one, then anydvd's record is better than dvd43. It is constantly being updated and has recently just added a hard copy read error bypass which is recently being used to prevent DVD backup.

Anydvd's average is 20% higher than DVD43 as far as getting around DVD encryption :>)

 

I did go to those ASPI links Orange, Thanks.
I was leary because so much of it said 'this works with this OS but not that one and sometimes not this one either...' etc etc... and that if it didn't work to just use your windows install CD to go back to what you had -- except that my Windows CD has gone bad, so the last time I ever did a reformat and clean install was literally going to have to be my last time!

However, the more I read about it the less scary it seems. It's just like updating my drivers for a printer or anything else, ...isn't it?

p.s. I can't do the .exe right now cuz I'm at work (shhh, don't tell)

 

Getting to grips with this burning now and turning off anti virus speeded things up, good tip thanks.

It might appear a silly question, but once the ISO is on my Hard Drive, am I right in thinking that I can then just complete the burn process from this file each time???? without using encryptor again.

 

Howdy Tucksters,

Iffin you don't mind my friend, allow me to clarify your post for the many pple who are just now tuning in and haven't gone back to the beginning to see where your statement came from -.

You are speaking of the ISO image AFTER DVD Shrink is done with it. In this case you are in fact 100% correct. AFTER DVD Shrink has processed it you may burn it to disc when ever you wish. At one time I had 34 DVD's, most in ISO form, on my HD waiting for me to get around to ordering blank discs. I does get forgetful from time to time. (Good thing I've got me some super fine friends like the Big "O" guy who's doing such an excellent and commendable job helping you all so well – I'm going to nominate him for "Newbie God" of the year - Who's with me on this --

Ooohh, Back to my point - There are times when our "Hero" Mr. DVD Shrink just can't seem to get a handle on an encryption and so we ask DVD Decrypter to help out by ripping the DVD in the "File" Mode OR the "ISO", "Read", "Mode." It is in this latter mode that will find ourselves with an extremely HUGE (Lol) ISO image on our HD. Solely because of it's size we will then have an unburnable ISO image on our HD. We can feed this one to DVD Shrink using "File" then "Open image file" which will grab that image file and allow DVD Shrink to process it in the normal manner - At some time in the near future you'll need this piece on information so if you don't already have it, make a "Postie" of this so you'll be prepared.

Cheers,

Pete



To whomever wishes to know - - ,

I've just done a major re-write of my DVD Shrink / DVD Decrypter Guide located on page 1 of this thread. It includes updated settings and a section on DVD Shrink's Quality Enhancement settings. I was also aware of one or two small gaps which didn't seem to cause anyone here a problem BUT, looking for perfection they required patching. If you are using one of my guides located elsewhere PLEASE, PM me with it's address so that I can make sure it's "up-to-snuff" as well.

Thanks everyone for the kind words on my guides so far, hopefully, this one will be better.

and if anyone "catch's" some "Boo-Boo's in this one, step up and let me know, again, Thanks -

Pete


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[bold]I'm going to nominate him for "Newbie God" of the year - Who's with me on this -- [/bold]

Thanx for the high praise my good friend but that has already been taken by you by popular demand from who else? The newbies! ( and a lot of us others).

Keep up the good work Pete, you're the best :>)


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