Burning Videos Onto DVD

oh got it. the way the first line went, thought u were saying I was doing something wrong.

So it has something to do with codecs.

now we are getting into a really confusing area. Something I know nothing about.

I know I have KLite Mega on. should I remove it. Someone once told me, once u go with one you normally don't wanna remove it. right

and u never answered. U mentioned dual layer, I would clearly need that dual layer burner right??

and u never answered if it says super long play, would you go back to just splitting the files? (If I were to use Nero, Binkie) (Rotary, If I were to use DVD Flix it will do it for me)

 

Not really. I'll give a few examples using NeroVision Express 3.

I'll open NVE3 and manually set the Quality setting from Auto to Standard which assigns a video bitrate of 5073 kb/s. I'll also set the Audio Format to DD 2 (to eliminate any variance due to the audio format).

The first AVI (Xvid) I'll add is 699MB and has a running time of 1 hr 13 min. NVE shows the the final size will be 2.94GB.

Now I'll try a 699MB AVI (Xvid) with a running time of 1 hr 28 min. NVE now shows 3.37GB.

The next AVI (Divx5) is 1400MB and has a running time of 1 hr 53 min. NVE now shows 4.34GB.

The last one, a very high quality AVI (Xvid 1280x720) is 4.11GB with a running time of 1 hr 54 min. NVE now shows 4.37GB.

For NVE3's Standard Quality (5073kb/s), 1 hr and 54 min is the about the max (more or less depending on audio format) that will fit on a DVD-5 blank. For the last example, 4.37GB is a little too full so I'd change the video Quality from Standard to Custom and manually set the bitrate down to 5020 kb/s which will now show in NVE as 4.33GB for a final size.

For the last example if I wanted DD 5.1 sound (it takes up more room) I'd have to set the video bitrate to 4760 kb/s to get a final size of 4.33GB.

You can use this little app to get your bitrates (you might have to adjust the numbers a bit).

http://www.videohelp.com/calc.htm

Hope this helps and makes sense.

 

I have Phillips+-RW DVD8701 and Samsung DVD-ROM SD-616E

I have had them for 2 years and don't think the burner is dual layer. Because I was, in the past, recommended to get one to fit more onto the dvd.

 

Just a hint for one of the issues(if it was already suggested and I missed it I appologize for repeating)

It was said that the cheap players are not as picky as the upper class fancy brand fussy ones. Very true my Apex plays averything I throw at it, vs. my Sony that acted up with DVD-Rs. However, what I was trying to suggest was to use DVD+R instead of DVD-R and booktype them to DVD-ROM, if your burner supports that( mine didn't, I have a NEC, but I used modified firmware and I got it to booktype). With the DVDs booktyped to DVD-ROM, I have not had any playback issue on any players(mine, friends...etc). You were suggested to buy some other media, like Verbatim or TY. I would get the DVD+R format and booktype them to DVD-ROM.

P.S. I was looking through some threads and it looks like your Phillips supports booktyping, but I would double check.
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/292236

 

Hey cyprusrom, thanks for your input. so i will "booktype" the, which some way converts dvd+r to minus r but it will be on a dvd+r dvd and therefor may play on the dvd player that it formally would not

do I have that correct

Well, seems like a lot of work. the problems would come when I woudl use the DVD Flix. When I would be able to use Nero, WHICH I HAVE WITHOUT A FLAW since binkie gave me the link to the updates (thanks again bink) I have no problem at all

But just for shits and giggles do I have the gist of booktyping down

and Binkie , no the drives did not come with the computer, I had to get them replaced during the warranty. But it is nice to know that they are dual layer.

 

binkie7,
Yes, long time no see...life gets in the way of fun! And I see you got the power now, keeping the new people straight!Congrats!

Partly...Booktyping does not convert the +R to -R, it converts to ROM, your player will kinda think that you put in an original, pressed DVD

I am not sure what you mean about troubles with DVD Flix.

 

Well that is quite alright for not understanding , in fact please accept my apology. I always give 100% but my mind races and the fact that I am not up to par with you all makes it worse.

1. So it is like converting it to -R, but actually ROM you say. Well, here I will show you I am not up to snuff. I thought that all -R and +R and any DVD I would use, short of RW is a ROM. And what does pressed mean "original pressed" you mean right from the factory when they are recorded? the ones we make are not pressed?

2. Well, what I was saying with the DVD Flix was that when I used that to transcode and used Nero to burn, the cheaper DVD Player would play it but the good Denon would not. When I used Nero for everything after Binkie gave me a site to get the updates, it all worked perfectly in Nero...the transcoding, the burning, and BOTH players played the DVD To be honest, since Nero is fixed I prefer to use Nero

 

@eric
:~)No need to appologize my friend! Most of the time I don't understand things because my "scanner" is too fast, I am too impatient! And sometimes I don't understand myself if I dont take a deep breath!

ROM= read only memory.
+/- R are not read only, you can write on them. And by pressed, yes, I mean form the factory. The ones that we make are "burned", not pressed. The pressing and burning involves a diferent process. The pressed ones, are composed of several layers of molded polycarbonate plastic, an aluminum layer...The data is "pressed" onto those layers. Just do a google search.The burned DVD uses a layer of dye instead, an organic compound that can be modified by heat to store data. The laser heats the dye and burns it,(you can notice the difference in colour of the discs, before/after burn). That dye is degradable in time, so in case you were not aware, the burned DVD won't last as long as the originals, the life span is shorter(they say max.5 years);depends on the discs you buy, the burning process, storage conditions.... Some dont last even a year.
Anyway, it's all technical, and I am not a specialist! Just reproducing stuff here. I am just an aprentice trying to learn here on AD and other "sister" sites enough to play with my toys!

Glad you got Nero working and no more playback issues.

 

Ah thank you Cyprus. finally one where I don't have to ask anything back and can understand it all.

You are so nice. A lot of people say I apologize for things I shouldn't. I do have a fast mind. In fact that first sentence, I even understood that but last night I must have been in a not so rare revved up mood LOL When I read back what I wrote, "I thought -R [read/write -R] and +R [read/write +R], everything short of RW [read/write/re-write] was ROM. So I just said I thought Read AND write was READ ONLY. You get it. I was showing that I actually DID get it last night but my mind races

Thanks so much

I am gonna leave it alone for a day. When I get an email on my BB from Afterdawn, I cringe because I don't know how I'm gonna handle it.

You know when it isn't fun you gotta take a day or two off.

But I do enjoy the people. You are so understanding in the explanations AND so patient too

have a great holiday all.

Eric

 

I am having some more problems with this. I am really sorry, it is nothing to do with what you all have explained, or even probably what I have, just where I am in my life.

I may head to bed, I am not feeling that well, but it anyone willing to let me tell them what I want copied, the programs I have now and what I did and give me a little or a lot of instruction maybe thru PM's, or even in here if others don't mind.

So, if u are not able to, I understand, if so I may see you when I get up from a nap or tomorrow am

Thanks so much
Eric

 

I am posting back in here per your advice Binkie. thanks so much, yes I take everything so personal.

I don't even know if I should be posting--I got everything working. The point is, I don't know how or why or why I had to use multiple programs, and why 2 different mods, or any people for that matter, recommend doing it differently.

So as to not get confused, let me state that my main program I have and prefer to use is Nero (I see a bunch of Nero's under Programs) but I am told normally you use Startsmart or Nero Express. I was told a few days ago that I should have burned my image in Nero Express since I was getting that all to popular error missing Dolby 2 msg. Well I put it into Express as recommended and it had 3 filetypes it had to be, and it recommended none.

I have TYPE OF FILE: VIDEO CLIP so I put it in Dvd Flick, then it came out with an image, then I used ImageBurn. Worked great except it connected both episodes.

But the point is I don't even know what I am doing. I think I need to go back and read two links put in the closed thread

I don't know why some vids burn right away and why some need an image. Are they dictated by their extension?

I would like to simply take what file I had and put it into NeroStartSmart like I do every burned TV Program with my Tuner Card. Why doesn't that need an image first?

(* as an addendum, anyone see David Archuleta on Idol--The Guy Rocks INCREDIBLE *)

 

Binkie

Again, having help. Same topic so I did not start a new thread, right.

I am having a hard time with Nero. I just to to burn 5 vids I made with tuner card from American Idol of one person, go
David Archuleta, but some are Mpeg and some are flv. It did not burn flv, got an error, and I should have, right, but I converted the flv to avi and I still got the error. HOW COME. It said transcoding error. If I remember there were a couple of you, you advocated simply doing it all in Nero.

I did just make them all mpeg I will go see if it would work, but shouldn't it have worked as avi?

lemme know
thanks so much as always
Eric

 

aahhh Binkie, I think I got it, or rather you tell me

so it does not work with flv , and it does not work with the avi, and for that matter, would it not work with flv converted to mpeg with the program FREEZ flv to avi mpeg. Because when I do that, it turns out ok on the pc, but the burned version is choppy to say the least (cannot even understand or tolerate) Is that consistent with what you were saying?

Just try to burn the flv with the DVD flick and if so, great, if not, np