true, but if you look at the damage capitalism is doing now too mate i dont think either can say it doesnt destroy the world! eg Wars over money etc
Abstract conversations about the values of any economic system are meaningless in a certain sense because they're not mutually exclusive. There is no "purely capitalist" society today - every state with capitalistic practices has to a certain extent accepted socialized practices such as social welfare. Most people have accepted that even with a globalized society, the world operates through a statist lens, which means that government, not the "free market," will make large decisions that affect people's lives. And while in theory capitalism produces winners, there must exist a certain group that loses. The notion that no one will be poor or suffer is as inane as the utopian claims that underpin socialism. The anarcho-capitalists who think that the state shouldn't protect rights seem to miss that even in free civil societies, the state is still the dominant actor. Every attempt to challenge "big government" a la Ronald Reagan has simply lead to the expansion of government influence at the expense of the market. Rant over.
The problem with Capitalism is that eventually the money and power are held by too few people. The system starts to break down when the people that hold the purse strings have too much influence in the government and decision making processes. Laws are then passed to their benefit, not the common man. Look at the intense lobbying that the RIAA, MPAA, Oil companies, and other special interests do to get laws passed that benefit them. Monopolies are allowed to run any competition into the ground, further strenghtening their hold. Convicted monopolists (Microsoft) get off with a slap on the wrist. The political process has been usurped since the politicians rely on the campaign contributions and have to be in bed with companies that are only looking out for their own interests, instead of the interests of their constituents. I don't know what the answer is to the above problem. Some steps have to be taken by the voters. If an elected official is voting in ways that are clearly against the majority of their citizen's wishes, vote them out. The problem with that is that more than likely the next politician has sold his soul to the same special interests for the same reasons; the campaign contributions and endorsments, backroom deals where promises are made "I will locate a factory that will create jobs in your district if you vote this way on this bill", and the like.
Corruption destroyed eastern-europe/communism. Greed will/has destory(ed) capitalism .... people just want so much... and there’s only so much to go around...someone somewhere is gonna get screwed Xian: well said all around...dunno if/when that kinda reform will come around though... it’s badly needed
Communism i like that one whats mine is yours n whats yours is mine... ^_^ gotta love that one "sharing is caring" lol the whole point of Communism ^_^
Free speech-if america was communist we probably wouldn't be debating this point, america may have it's flaws but I'd rather the american system over communism anyday, I'm not american but I still think it is way better than communism. Capitalism is better and if any may day protesters want to debate that, remember a few years ago when you destroyed london-if you were so anti-capitalist why were you smoking marlboros and drinking coca-cola?
Interesting debate. But are we talking Marksism or Comunism. Because Fundamental Marksism would work. But Comunisim never could, because it is based on taking advantage of the weak. Then there is is capitalism, which is screw the weak. So I would say the that truely neither work. Capitolism =bad and Comunism = bad What we need is a good dictatorship.
The may day protests in london were different man. Firstly those people you saw destroying stuff were just mostly people who dont care about capitalism going out to cause trouble! Those who really went to protest against capitalism had intended a peaceful protest!
Some of the major problems with communism and capitalism is money. What do you think would happen if it were removed. Switch to a complete barter system. that way you could get what you want and every one would have to produce something or would have nothing to trade. Any thoughts?
Thats a good way of putting things. Also when u concider the fact that u have to buy land when nobody owned it in the first place. What if that wasnt so? would it be every man for himself? hmm
Well if you did find land, then it would be yours. You could move in, just like the early american settlers. Just move across the country and find good land. Since noone has yet to really respond, I think most would agree it as a good idea. Too bad it could only work if the world was a unified power.
