hey thanks for the help finaly got the parts and put it all together last friday, it was my first time swaping cases , and wiring up the components. and it went without a hitch, allthough it took me 2 hr. but im very happy with the results i can run nearly any game now at full settings. even crysis at max and still get 35- 40 fps. i also overclocked the graphics card a little bit. gpu clock 795MHz memory clock 915MHz average 45 degres at full load in ati ccc overdrive