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Configuring new build with Rebuilder/CCE focus

Discussion in 'PC hardware help' started by teflonmyk, Oct 4, 2007.

  1. phill2000

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    np's anytime. I know a bit about them components becuase I am in the process of building an identical system ;o)

    Will let you know how I get on!
     
  2. sammorris

    sammorris Senior member

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    With regard to the hard drives, the WD5000AAKS drives run cooler and quieter than the equivalent Seagate models, and they are blazing fast (72MB/s write when new). I use two of them in my server, and they perform brilliantly. A friend of mine uses the Seagate equivalents and they are also fast and relatively quiet, but they get quite hot!
     
  3. creaky

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    i'd recently bought a couple of WD5000AAKB's to replace the (you guessed it...WD drives, 250G) in my USB2.0 enclosures
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    ..one of the 250GB's is now earning it's keep an my main xbox, the other WD 250GB will probably end up in the other xbox, or i may just reuse an older machine as a file server with the USB2.0 enclosures attached (ie as opposed to hosting them all in the new Antec case), don't want this new monster PC on all the time, i'd rather leave a sub-200W machine on for file-serving than a 580W one!, though saying that, as i'll only have the various machines on when i'm at home (which isn't very often) i suppose i could justify leaving the Antec running when i'm at home... decisions, decisions :)

    ..think i'm going to plump for the WD5000AAKS's after all.. another cup of tea then some price tweaking i think, i'd like to get this stuff ordered, but suppose i'd better do some work too
     
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  4. sammorris

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    Well, you say 580W, my fileserver draws about 140W from the mains when it's on. Components:
    X2 4200+ SKT939, CNPS7000Alcu @ 4V
    Asus A8R-MVP
    2x1GB Corsair Value PC3200 CAS3
    Sapphire X1600 Pro Half-Height PCIe DDR2-64bit 256MB
    Hiper 580W Type-R Black
    WD2500x2
    WD5000AAKSx2
    LG 16x DVDROM
    Antec 900 case, 120mm fans @ 6Vlow (500rpm), 200mm fan @7VHigh(200rpm)
    OS: Ubuntu GutsyGibbon CLI
     
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  5. creaky

    creaky Moderator Staff Member

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    good point, i hadn't considered that the total load wouldn't necessarily be the full 580W; it's too early :)

    just costing any extra optical drives to add to this build then it's all spec'd out, can see i have 1 IDE controller to play with on the MSI board, might put a Benq DW1650 on there and keep any DVD ripping duties confined to one or more IDE DVD-Rom's (that already live in USB2.0 enclosures). Maybe i should be done with it buy 2 SATA burners to fill up the other 2 optical bays while i'm at it... just going to check if the PSU can cope, think it can
     
  6. sammorris

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    The PSU will certainly cope, I ran that PSU in my gaming PC for ages without issues.
     
  7. creaky

    creaky Moderator Staff Member

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    Right, finally made my mind up on the bits i want (apart from the Hiper PSU, the black ones are like gold dust, yet the blue ones are common as muck; don't like the bright blue meshed cables much though so picked a different PSU)..

    1 Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Energy Efficient 95W edition Socket 775 (2.40GHz) G0 Stepping L2 8MB Cache OEM CPU
    £153.99 inc VAT and FREE Delivery

    1 Zalman CNPS 9700 LED Socket 754, 940, 775, 939 & AM2 CPU Cooler
    £34.36 inc VAT and FREE Delivery

    1 Antec Nine Hundred Ultimate Gaming Case - no PSU
    £69.99 inc VAT and FREE Delivery

    1 Corsair HX Series 620W Modular PSU
    £88.93 inc VAT and FREE Delivery

    1 MSI P35 Platinum Socket 775 FSB1333 onboard 8 channel audio ATX Motherboard
    £97.99 inc VAT and FREE Delivery

    2 Crucial 2GB Kit (2x1GB) Ballistix Memory DDR2 PC2-8500 5-5-5-15 Unbuffered NON-ECC DDR2-1066MHz 2.2V 128Meg x 64
    £135.11 inc VAT and small Delivery charge

    4 Western Digital WD5000AAKS 500GB SATA II 7200RPM 16MB Cache - OEM
    £62.29 inc VAT and FREE Delivery, for each drive

    Grand total = £829.52 inc VAT and Delivery, a great bargain methinks
     
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  8. phill2000

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    Cool!

    What suppliers have you used?... Could do with using them myself when I get mine!
     
  9. creaky

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    Ebuyer for all except the memory, which was from Micro Direct as per your link (outstanding deal on the memory btw hence why i went for 4GB, much cheaper than anywhere else, even cheaper than Crucial themselves!); i wanted to order from just 1 place as delivery is always a problem for me as always on the move, but as it's just the RAM from the one place and it's small enough to post (well i hope it is) i shouldn't have any hassle with missed deliveries; kept adding more hard drives so had to force myself to stop at 4 as that's all i need for now, and have so far been unimpressed with reviews of any SATA optical drives, seems the only ones i could find are all noisy drives; don't mind things making some noise but there's no excuse in this day and age for noisy optical drives, reminds me of way back when 40x and 52x cd-rom drives came out and the cheapy ones always made far too much noise. Will just stick with all my various USB2.0 enclosures for dvd-rom and burners for now as i'm real happy with all of those (until such time that i can get decent quiet drives, am after a dvd-rom and 2 burners). I could've bought a PCI IDE controller card and thus re-used 3 existing optical drives internally but think an IDE controller will be overkill being as this motherboard has virtually everything catered for already)
     
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    Nice looking rig there creaky. ;) L@@KING to do something similar in the near future if the Christmas cash will come in. :D I've already got a few parts but need the main things for the enchilada to come together. lol.

    Need P/S, CPU, MOBO, and RAM..... Yep the high dollar stuff. lol.

    ...gm
     
  11. sammorris

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    Just be aware Creaky, that while MicroDirect are very cheap, me and my friend have had serious issues with MD in the past. Items advertised as new turning out to be second hand, refusal for any sort of returns on any of our faulty products, and a general attitude of "who cares. If you're not happy, sue us". I've never bought anything from them for a long time, favouring their rival Aria, and large wholesalers ebuyer and scan. Maybe they've improved, but if I were you, I spend the extra couple of pounds and avoid the risk.
    The PSU you've gone with is better still than the Hiper unit, you'll be pleased with that. They are pin-drop silent compared to most power supplies out there.
     
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    cheers Sam; looking forward to starting building this monster on Monday; have nothing but praise for Ebuyer over the years; have no fear re Micro Direct or a.n.other supplier, it was worth the risk for the huge cost saving, though i take no prisoners when it comes to buying/deliveries & potential problems :)
    At worst i now have a SatNav so no supplier can escape a personal visit from me, sellers beware. In the immortal words of Mel Gibson "They can take our payment but they can never take our customer satisfaction" :p
     
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    Lol the man's up for a fight! To be fair, as long as nothing goes wrong with the RAM, you'll probably be alright.
     
  14. phill2000

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    Sam have you ever heard of the "long distance selling" legislation here in the UK? If you purchase ANY item over the internet from a retailer, you have 7 days in which to return it for a full money back refund. If the goods have been opened once you examine them, send them back!

    MD are close to myself and I have always walked in and purchased items there and then. I also have a trade account with them and have never had any problems. They have even gone so far as swapping a PSU out of a case for me when I returned a fully built system (that I built) for a customer. I got one of them Colors IT cases with the cheapo PSU's and it went POP on the first use ha ha. They had a guy with a screwdriver swapping it 20 mins after they closed as I rang them saying I was running late and they stayed behind for me.

    Don't know about you lot but I'd say that was very good customer service.

    And Creaky, just to let you know I have been researching the SATA DVD-RW and the Pioneer DVR-212 SATA 18x DVD±RW/RAM DL oem is a cracker. Always had the Pioneer 111/112's after a few Plextor, Sony's (re-badged Lite-On's), LG's and Lite-On's and not been let down. Excellent burn results, high media compatibilty, very VERY few coasters (out of about 300 discs think i have had 3, and they were cheap media).

    Just wanted to add a little more help lol!
     
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    I suppose different people have different experiences. I've had numerous problems with OverclockersUK whereas others swear by them, and I've not had many issues with Scan, yet others report serious trouble with them.
     
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    Nice build creaky. Just wondering, how do you know your getting G0 stepping?

    That PSU is great and if I remember right its modular so that means less cable mess too. :)
     
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    cheers, though i've got more than enough optical drives to use in the meantime, at £20 each for those drives i nearly just bought some on impulse but managed to restrain myself in the end; but all info is welcome as i know bugger all about SATA optical stuff. Doesn't seem like much choice in SATA opticals but i'll probably take your word for it and order a couple Pioneers then; just got to find a black IDE dvd-rom drive and i'm sorted (still using my old Beige LG dvd-rom, it's about 4years old and has ripped many, many 1000s of DVD's over it's life, still no sign of giving up the ghost yet), i'll use that for now via USB2.0. Am very fond of this LG drive, it's outlasted anything else, especially surprising since it's had such a hard life

    haven't used them (was troublefree for me) in quite some years, and stopped due to their steep prices (and their prices are still not very competitive to this day), but back then there weren't a fraction as many rival companies to get good stuff from; but yeah, each to their own

    yeah, the website is very specific about the G0 stepping; also i was pleased to find an OEM one as was buying a better cooler and the original cooler would've just sat in a draw forever with 6000 other old PC bits; the PSU does seem a good one, did quite a but of reading up on it last night; it pained me to spend so much on a PSU but as long as it lasts i'm happy enough, plus it's supposed to have a 5year warranty (good job as i keep PC's as long as i keep cars, ie way past their expected lifespan) :p

    Shouldn't really have bought a new case as have had a monster Supermicro case (£186 new back in the day!) sitting empty for a few years - http://www.virtual-hideout.net/reviews/supermicro_sc750a/02.jpg
    but it's still seeing some use as a table for a few bits of kit
     
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    Of course with cars, beyond their expected life you can part by part keep them up to scratch. With PCs it's not quite so easy.
     

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