Coolsat 5000 Questions PART 2

Just scratching the tip of the info there, but it seems that you're right about the webloader thing. What takes a couple of minutes to do it straight to the box with a click of the remote, it seems that you can flash the box from your PC a lot faster - in a flash. So I think that means, flashing in a flash. Haha! Also, didn't know that IKS is owned by Match.... and crew and that they let Ipro and TesSat use their stuff or else they would be down. Now that's sharing if I ever seen it. Also, NorWest had something to say too. It looks like some of these amateur Coolsat programmers may be on the comeback. This is outstanding information about what's going on behind the scenes. Is it ok, to c/p that post here?

 

I see that many Nfusion owners are on tonight saying, on other sites, that the new bin killed their Nfusions. The instructions said that after installing the new bin that you must rescan the sats. For the newbies, what the instructions didn't say is that you must reconfigure the sats before rescanning. I guess that's why they are so confused. The instructions should have said, reconfigure the sat settings to get the signal again, then rescan.

 

I didn't get that far into it, but I am still on 1.42, which I assume will go away. I think when you put the new one in you will have to start from scratch, with sat settings, scan sats and what not. If you get the update thru IKS you don't. I can't connect to the server so I will have to do it the old way and start from scratch.

 

That could very well be true ojailbird, i dont particularly pay attention to CW and PS because i dont own them, I was referring to the fix on coolsats 4/5/6 before 61/7/71/8 and 81.

 

I was at work late today, i will check now bill

 

I haven't tried the new bin yet (seems I was one of the few people who actually read the release notes and decided instead of attempting this late at night I would wait till after work today so I could make note of all my important settings before wiping them out with the 1.44 bin) so this is just educated guessing.

First, you do not have to use the proxy, and I would STRONGLY ... no, make that VERY STRONGLY ... suggest that if you do not understand what a proxy is, then leave it set to off until you do, or find someone who does and is willing to help you and provide good advice specific to the nFusion and the use of a proxy.

That said, a proxy is a server that sits out there on the Internet, and its basic function is usually to provide you with the ability to set you web browser to securely connect to the proxy (ie. the connection from your browser to the proxy is encrypted .... no one can look inside your connection to see what kind of communication and data is being passed between you and the proxy,) and then the proxy server does the "insecure" web browsing for you, gets the web page, then passes it back to you over that same encrypted connection.

EXAMPLE: Let's say you want to look up information on how to build a dirty bomb.

Ok, you could just open your browser and go to google and do a search on "dirty bomb", find a site that provided building instructions and view the information.

The problem with that is that the authorities could be monitoring google, or the web site containing the information, for people who do searches on that subject or read about it on the web site.

If they are "sniffing the line", or get a warrant for the logs on google or the site in question, they will likely be able to see which IP address did the search or browsed to the site ... after that they can "easily" trace the ISP that owns that IP address and get a warrant for the ISPs logs to determine which customer had that address at the specific time the "dirty bombs" information was searched or viewed.

So, if the authorities are determined, and the legal system or country boundaries don't get in the way, you can be traced.

Now, let's look at what happens with a proxy server ... in this case if you have set your web browser to use a proxy, and the authorities are sniffing the line as before, the IP address they will see doing the google search or browsing the "dangerous" web site, will be the IP address of the proxy server, and NOT your IP address .... if they actually suspect that you are a threat and decide to get a warrant to sniff your network connection at the ISP's routers, all they will find is that you have a connection to a server, a connection which is encrypted and which they cannot see into.

Now, they could in theory go to the proxy server with a warrant for the logs, but if you are smart you will have picked a proxy server outside of any jurisdiction where your local legal authorities have any power. In addition, the whole purpose of many of these proxies are to allow anonymous browsing, so very few of them are configured to keep log information, so even if the authorities manage to serve a warrant, there is a pretty good chance that there will be no logs to use in their search.

Now, using a proxy for web browsing involves a couple of steps.

1st, you need to find yourself a proxy server. You can do this by googleing "public proxy servers" ... there are many lists available which provide IP addresses and port numbers of these servers.

2nd, once you find a list of proxy servers you need to make note of the IP address and port number given.

3rd, you go to your web browsers configuration (I use Firefox 2.0.0.12, and my proxy proxy setup is located at tools -> options -> advanced -> network -> Settings.

I would then select the "manual proxy configuration" and fill in the IP address and port number provided by whatever proxy server list I was able to find on the Internet.

Once I configured and saved this information I would then be "securely" browsing the Internet with my firefox browser (assuming the proxy server I selected was still on line, running the proxy daemon, and still allowing public connections ... these lists can at times be out of date.)

Now, I suspect that the nFusion proxy works almost exactly the same way ... find your proxy server list, get the IP address and port number of your preferred proxy server, input that IP and port number into the nFusion proxy settings, and that should have you securely running IKS.

WARNING: I would pick a proxy not in your own country (don't be fooled by the domain name, it could have a domain name that suggested Iran and still have an IP address that resides in the USA or Canada (do a search for "whois" in google and find a whois search engine that will provide authoritative information as to the location and ownership of the IP address, and not just the domain name)

Also, before using an proxy on nFusion I would configure it on my browser and do a bit of browsing to see if it looks to be fast enough to be used for IKS ... I have no idea at the moment how fast that requirement might be, or how it looks in a browser, but if it takes a minute to load a page that normally loads in a couple of seconds in a non proxied browser, then I'd suggest the proxy is not the one you want to use.

Also be aware that public proxy servers have no guarantees ... they might be fast and stable one day, then the next day they may be slow, or not exist at all. You can do a search for a paid subscription proxy, which may provide better performance and stability, but "paid" means you have to spend money, and subscribe (which means giving someone your contact information, so this could be a matter of trust that you might not be willing to give?)

 

I've had a chance to do some testing and sniffing on the nFusion proxy setting, and I do have some updates to what I have already posted, although I suspect that this information will not do a whole lot to promote a lot of trust in the proxy itself, it is, I believe, fairly accurate and important for those concerned about protecting their anonymity.

What I found is that nFusion only seems to support what is called a "transparent proxy" ... essentially there are three major variations on a proxy.

The first, is what is called a "High Anonymity" proxy, and passes no information that might identify the user, it can also use ssl (encryption) between the client and the proxy to really protect the user, but it doesn't have to.

The next type of proxy is called an "Anonymous" proxy proxy, and while the connection between the client and proxy is not encrypted, it passes no identifying information onto the target server.

The last, and most common kind of proxy is called a "Transparent" proxy, which passes on all kinds of identifying information, including the originating IP address. Transparent proxies are used mostly for performance improvement purposes, which in this case is not really applicable to the purpose.

The nFusion proxy client seems to only connect to a Transparent proxy, and so passes along identifying information in the communications.

Does this mean that the nFusion proxy is useless? No, it still provides an extra level of security in that the most likely place any authority might be intercepting traffic where it would effect the nFusion user, would be in Canada or the USA ... and anyone trying to sniff traffic destined for the nFusion IKS server would not, for the most part, find the proxy traffic of much interest.

So, the best practice usage for the nFusion proxy would be to find a transparent proxy server with the necessary performance capability, and make sure it (the proxy server) resides in a country where Canadian and US authorities would have no access to a means of sniffing between the proxy server and the S. Korean IKS server.

So, to summarize, the nFusion proxy is not the answer that the truly paranoid were looking for, but that said, I wasn't worried about being tracked down via my IP address in the first place ... if the authorities wanted to spend the effort required to do this kind of high tech tracking they woul dbe better advised to sniff for kiddy pron files and trace those IP addresses.

These are preliminary test results, and I am more than happy to be corrected if someone has better information.

Additional information:

Where the UDP nFusion IKS exchange only exchanged a couple of hundred bytes every 20 seconds, the proxy client operates in TCP mode and exchanges about 3400 bytes every 20 seconds. Still not a whole lot of traffic, but still an order of magnitude more data

 

Anyway, congrts to jenni for becomming senior member...

It could have happen if the cs5k was up more than down...lol

 

Hey, You guys pissed and moaned about everyone hijacking the site!!! I suppose the thread turned into a lovely discussion on the miracle of NFUSION. Start a new thread!!!! This one is supposed to be on cs5's

 

You are right, i apologize

 

Thanks Blank, I have been reading over at the other place and it looks like I am going to have to update the bin, but proxy servers is Greek to me. I will just leave it alone until I figure it out. I hate to do the update, I am going t have to do it through the cable. This erases everything and I will have to stat all over.

Let me know how things come out. I will be over at the depot in the morning. Maybe you can write a how to.

 

I am going on vacation after Thursday... i will have some free time to research and I dont want to post opinion at the depot rather fact. Or you can e-mail me bill. After tommorow i will know more (more time) lol

 

Thanks Blnkstare. I have been learning and reading for a long time before I started posting anything. The site has been a great help and I don't want it to close. Thank-you

 

PM me your email addy

 

I agree harl, i remade this forum topic so its kind of my baby in a way. Sometimes when users ask for help we tend to get carried away about helping and forget where we are. I can speak for most of the everyday members in here that are multitasking in different forums as members or moderators or Admins or owners and we can very easily forget the thread we are in and just blurt out answers.. Point well taken though. =)

Blank

 

thankyou blank. i really thought that you would move up faster than i did. you cant be to far off

 

Your welcome, not when you have young children and 2 nF******...lol

 

Ccongrats on being a senior. Now you will get a discount at carl's junior.

 

wow do i suddenly feel OLD. ugg

 

lol i think it was all that bills garage talk that did it