Coolsat 5000 Questions PART 2

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  1. jhardy031

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    we have babyfirst tv on disk for the same reason. lol
     
  2. Blnkstare

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    I dont think DTV upgraded due to hacking maybe to offer better picture quality to its current members to charge more and to attract more new customers, but DTV is not hacked...
     
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    Hi blnk. I have found myself in the same problem. I went with the sw-21's One on each output of the dish pro lnb's. here are the settings.

    box #1 119 110
    diseq 1 comit 1 diseq 1 comit2
    sw-21 1 sw-21 1

    nimic 91
    diseq none
    sw-21 2
    box #2 the same

    Problem is the 119 110 drop off to 0 strength. It did work fine but do you think maybe the sw's went bad, they are the old one's I had around here. Any more suggestions? Someone where I live is telling me the dish pro lnb's are not going to work with the standard lnb off the B*V dish
     
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    looks like fixes are starting to come out.
     
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    Hey bud witch one's.
     
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    Yes the bins should start showing up soon, but we don't know how long it will last. The providers are trying a rolling or rotating map call. If it works , the ECM will change at will. The GOOD point is that it may disable the sub receivers also. It just may be too much for their own boxes. We have to wait and see what happens.

    Jerry
     
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    Sonicview files are starting to be posted. Viewsat should be out soon.

    Jerry
     
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    what about coolsat 5000
     
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    Hard to say but the bin write must not have been too hard for them to be out so fast. Files will be posted on Bindepot.ca as they are released.

    Jerry
     
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    You used sw21 or the Dp lnbs have the switch built in? I never said use double sw21 switches. I said use a DiSEqC switch and commit 119 to port 1 and 110 to port 2 then off the same 4x1 switch connect 91 to port 3 and choose 1.Standards lnb 22khz off committed 3, try that and you will be up and running, when the new bins come out.
     
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    I tried the diseq When I put the line 1 cable from the dish pro lnb to the diseq and the B*V to the diseq on #3. The diseq or the box drops off 110 sat. With out the direct 110 and 119 feed off the dish pro. other peoplr tell me it won't work?
     
  12. bill038

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    I am at a friends house and he has a dn sub. Every time he changes channels the screen goes blank and he gets the message that it is searching for satellite. He is screaming at it. I am laffing my azz off, knowing what is going on.

    He is about to throw it in the pool.
     
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    Didnt you say it worked? Were you watching TV? I am not sure what your saying please elaborate on what you did, when and if it worked and how long. also do you have 22khz on or off?
     
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    o.k Blnk I will elaborate. I tried the diseq but with 2 cables only out of the dish pro lnb. line 1 out of the dp lnb went to # 1 on the diseq. each box. 91 went to #3. the box or thr diseq won't accept 110. If I switch the input at the diseq to #2 then the diseq or the box drops 119. In turn someone told me about the sw-21, they worked for a day and now it don't work. We can get rid of the sw-21. sorry about that choice. The 22khz was on with the sw-21's.
     
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    Here's some info on LNBS: d*shpro vs non-d*shpro(Legacy)

    C&P

    d*shPro TWIN or QUAD LNBs have an internal DiSEq switch and use an LO of 11250
    For FTA receivers the switch settings are:
    DiSEq1(or A) for 119(echo7)
    DiSEq2(or B) for 110(echo6,8)

    Use no external switches unless you are adding a 3rd satellite/LNB to your system
    You will also need to use a DP channel list OR manually edit the H transponders

    LNBF
    1. Legacy:
    a. single: called single legacy, one output.
    b. dual: called dual legacy, 2 outputs.
    c. twin: big fat lnbf, 2 outputs, has 2 SW21 switch built-in.
    d. quad: big fat lnbf, 4 outputs, has 4 SW 21 switch built-in.

    2: d*shPro
    a. single: called single d*shPro, one ouput.
    b. dual: called dual d*shPro, 2 outputs.
    c. twin: big fat lnbf, 2 outputs, has 2 independent Diseqc switch built-in
    d. quad: big fat lnbf, 4 outputs, has 4 independent Diseqc switch built-in

    Switch
    1. Diseqc: 2 versions: 1.0 and 2.0. People having problem with 2.0 version
    a. 2 ways: 2 inputs, one output. Switch up to 2 lnbfs.
    b. 4 ways: 4 inputs, one output. Switch up to 4 lnbfs.
    2. 22khz switch: 2 inputs, one output. Switch up to 2 lnbfs.
    3. 0/12v switch: 2 inputs, one output. Switch up to 2 lnbfs. (Note: 0/12v switch needs to be installed close to the receiver, therefore 2 cables has be run into your house)
    4. There is no such thing as Diseqc 1.2 or 1.3 switch. The 1.2 and 1.3 (aka USALS) are for motorizing Diseqc h-h mount.
    5. DP34. 3 inputs, 4 outputs. Can be used to combine a 2nd (61W or 148W)d*sh with DP twin or quad, so receiver will get signal from 3 sats.

    Switch does not work well
    1. SW21
    2. Diseqc 2.0 version (either 2 ways or 4 ways).

    d*sh 500
    1. with 2 separate legacy single or dual lnbfs.
    2. with legacy twin or quads lnbf, no good.

    3. with d*shPro twin or quads lnbf, good. Need to use modified transponder list
     
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    o.k. Blnk I am slowly understanding. It sounds like I have the d*sh pro twin lnb. I only have 2 cables coming out of the dish. one to each box. When I take one of the cables and put it in the diseq on line 1 of the diseq it will not let 110 come thru. If I switch it to line 2 on the diseq it will not let 119 come thru
     
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    Ok harle try this:

    same setup 119/110 to port 1 on both DiSEqC switches
    91 to port 2 on both DiSEqC switches

    Setting on both boxes 119 AND 110 commit to 1
    " " " " 91 Commit to 2

    The DP lnb has a built in switch i dont own them but i have read conflicting reports of sw21 and now by that c/p DiSEqC switch. I dont know which one is correct but if they "piggy back" signals for 119/110 and its connected to port 1 then both must be committed there.

    Try this with 22khz OFF on both for port 2 (91)
    and try first On with port 1 , if no s &q turn off and see if that works, again by C/P DP lnbs dont care about voltage. Let me know how it goes Harle.
     
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    Thats really funny. I was informed that was a possibility but didn't think it was going to actually do that. We read all this stuff about FTA going black for good but in most cases the fta receivers are more powerful than the sub receivers, so I don't worry too much right now.

    Jerry
     
  19. robc3

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    what happen with coolsat 5000???
     
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    O.k. Blnk I will try tomorrow, it's late here and snowing like a bastard. I will write back tomorrow. Are you sure the viewsat diseq switche's will work. The box they came in said sw-41?
     
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