Cyprusrom In reference to your statement , I'm glad you noted [bold]I think[/bold], as I've had no fault with Nero's ability to read a file if the file is intact and compliant. But I agree DVD Decrypter is an excellent ripper and it is one of my tools of choice. I use the AnyDVD + DVD Decrypter on just about every DVD backup I make. I just never find it necessary to use DVD Decrypter for copy duties of already prepared files such as those on a backup DVD. That goes to personal preference and we're all allowed those of course. For those truly troublesome DVDs a person can try the rescue utilities. ISOBuster quickly comes to mind, as well as the older XRescue. The ISOBuster is readily available, but the older XRescue may not be. Some people may still have the XRescue lying around and it is handy when one wants to try to extract all the files they can from a flawed or damaged DVD.
:~) Well, yes, it is my thinking. I cannot generalize, but DVD Decrypter was succesfull for me where Nero failed to read. Like you said, no fault with Nero if the file is intact, but when is not, a better ripper might succeed. @2000neon And yes, ISOBuster is another application that can be used for recovering damaged files. You can have a look at how to use it: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/2/309173
I think most people say-" Well, it plays well, so it should be okay! So why can't I just copy it?!" Some people are just learning how to use DVD Shrink, how not to use Memorex, and not to burn at speed light:~)! For them, quality scans and CRC errors checks might be something yet to discover!
@brobear Although I don't use decrypter with anyDVD normally, it's the first thing I do when recode balks with anyDVD on some DRMs. And almost 100% it will rip the files!
Cyprusrom When emphasis is put on doing the read scan, it should be obvious it's something needed to quickly diagnose the problem. It's not as though it's something difficult to do. Must be noob thinking, "only do what I want to". Garmoon I realize that transcoders can "balk" when the read rate slows down, which some copyright protection and some poor quality (damaged?) discs can cause. Getting the files on the HD where they can be read smoothly by the recording software makes the process move along more smoothly. There's no disagreement that DVD Decrypter is good for ripping files to the HD. It's sort of a matter of preference how it's used sometimes. As I mentioned, I use AnyDVD + DVD Decrypter most of the time, I need as well as like using HD files. Ever try to encode a DVD with RB/CCE from an optical drive using AnyDVD? Think almost forever on that one. I've just never needed to use DVD Decrypter in the copy process of already processed files, such as those on a DVD backup. If I feel the need for retrieving files from a difficult disc, then there's always the rescue software which is superior to DVD Decrypter for that purpose. As far as discs with errors, I've had occasion when AnyDVD + DVD Decrypter wouldn't read them. The read errors would stop the read process. Even setting to ignore errors, the program would still stall out on a large block of errors. In some cases the data is no longer there, in which case nothing is going to read it. Some rescue software can bypass the damage and get all the available data. I opt for a new copy when things like that happen.
Sorry 200neon & brobear Brain fade is my only excuse, I did mean Dvd Shrink & I did not suggest 2000neon use clone , he said he did not know if he could change burning speed in clone. And of course he can . If there is a way to edit my thread I would as it is confusing to new users . 2000neon Newbie 25. March 2006 @ 22:02 yes the original backup plays perfect i used memorex DVD-R 8x {I'm not sure if i can change burn speed in clonedvd2? }
your suggestions paid off reburned with original at a slower speed and now am able to copy the copy thanks for all the help
No matter what problem you have, come to the AD forums and the problem can be solved. Some member just have more knowledge and experience than others, so hang around and it'll be fixed.
Seems a simple read scan would have shown the errors created on the first copy and there would have been no mystery. What you described is inducing errors by burning too fast for a particular media. Next time you run into a copy problem, check the source.
how do do a read scan to find the problem? i am using clonedvd2,nero to burn different types of media thannks again
Do the scan and note the bad sectors. An occasional error isn't going to cause a problem, but when you have a bunch of bad sectors together, you may have a disc that won't record, as they get worse, there may be play errors.
