copytodvd problem

Discussion in 'DVDR' started by dzuldare, Aug 8, 2005.

  1. cougar_ii

    cougar_ii Regular member

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    Hi there,

    You don't need to purchase it right away, this is why they offer a trial version.

    If your having issues with the Pattin Coffin Driver, I have a feeling you might be having other OS issues ?

    I had 0 problems since I've been using VSO Software and ßeta Testing DivxToDVD v2.00
     
  2. arniebear

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    I gotta agree, have never had a problem with VSO. In fact I have used Patin-Couffin as my interface with Decrypter and have had 0 trouble it works extremely well
     
  3. brobear

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    Arniebear,

    How did you manage that, mine automatically goes to the ATAPI interface?

    [bold]19:09:39 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...[/bold]
    That is from the opening of the Decrypter log.


     
  4. brobear

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    It installs and works well. You may have a problem. So, as mentioned, try the trial first. If you want check the burn capabilities, use the free Decrypter which uses the OS ATAPI interface. Another thing you can try is Nero. It has it's own ASPI interface. The Nero has a trial you can try. Using those apps, see if you're still having the same problems as with CopyToDVD. Normally if a system isn't having problems, CopyToDVD with the Patin-Couffin interface works well. I've had it for a long time and no problems.
     
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  5. arniebear

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    I chose it in the tools, I/O settings

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  6. brobear

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    Arniebear
    It has been a long time since I messed around with the I/O settings. I'd forgotten about the PC selection. I stuck with the Microsoft setting (SPTI) as it allows a broader interface capability. Afterall, most of the backup programs are running under Microsoft Windows. As necessary, a software uses the driver it is set up for. In the case of the VSO software it uses PC automatically. With the likes of Decrypter, it is a variable option that can be chosen. Operating in Windows, I've never had the need to change the I/O settings of Decrypter. Did you have problems using the SPTI interface or was PC just something you wanted to select for Decrypter? I also noticed the D partition is Fat32. What OS are you using? Fat32 isn't really a good choice for doing DVDs due to the file size limitations. NTFS is the better option.
     
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    OS is XP but that is my D drive, and a leftover from when I used 98, I just use if for junk files and music. LUK never had much regard for the SPTI and so I figured I would try the Patin-Couffin since it was used with XCopy and my only drive at that time was a NEC USB, I now have an internal and another Plexie USB, which seemed to like this interface it has worked out well for me I have never had a problem with ripping.
     
  8. brobear

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    Seems LUK wrote it so it works well with SPTI. I guess it just boils down to what works and one is happy with. Decrypter has always worked flawlessly with the Microsoft interface and I've never needed to change. If it works set to PC, no need to change that either. LUK liked having the app so it could work in a lot of different PC environments. I noticed tha ASPI and ASAPI interface options as well. Other than in programs like Nero, XP doesn't even have ASPI, unless it is loaded as a supplement.
     
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    My laptop works fine with the SPTI interface but my desktop Dell likes the Patin-Couffin, never get an I/O error since using it, something I did get with SPTI. As you say it is all in what works for your system. I am just glad that LUK made the program to give you options.
     
  10. brobear

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    Funny, my Dell desktop is the one that has been trouble free using SPTI. Go figure... ;)
     
  11. arniebear

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    I guess every comp likes what it likes and once you figure it out never change a thing, lol
     
  12. brobear

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    ;) Don't know as I'd go that far. I like tinkering and making improvements too much to leave things alone.
     
  13. dzuldare

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    hi again. i downloaded the free trail and tryed to install the couffin driver. it did not install. i then got an idea. i assume the pattin couffin driver is like a device that recignizes your dvd/cd rom devices. well i have had Incd 4. that one comes with nero. so i disabled it at start up and then tryed to install pattin-couffin. it installed!. but does this now mean that nero won't work? do all these different copying programs need different imageing drivers? can more than one run at the same time? copytodvd works fine now, except now when i go to nero. and i wanted to copy a cd onto a cdr. i got the blue screen of death error. the error was Page_fault_in_nonpaged_area. i am not sure if it has to do with pattin-couffin and i am not sure that incd4 is running or not. i have also recently gotten 2 other blue screens(but only once each, so maybe they are not a main problem) bad_pool_header and bad_pool_caller.
     
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    i was also told by a friend of mine that alot of the blue screens of death errors(inperticularly "page_fault_in_nonpaged_area") are a cause of not enough memory. i have 256 ram. is that not enough? i am not a pro at this stuff. is there a way to redirect more ram to certain programs or something like that? or should i buy more ram and all problems will be solved? of course he could be tottally wrong and ram has nothing to do with it. just my other 2 cents
     
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    Your programs will work without InCD starting up. It is still there but it is better if it is disabled in start up. InCD is packet writing software and allows you to format a disk and use it like a big floppy and to edit, it only uses re-writable format diks. You should be okay, barely, with 256 meg. as long as you free up as much memory as possible by shutting down as many background programs as you can while encoding. It would be a good thing to invest in more memory, it is cheap and everything will run better and faster. Make sure you also have enough hard drive space for ripping and encoding.

    I got this error with a USB drive everytime I tried to safely uninstall it, the computer would crash and give me the BSOD. Had something to do with a driver trying to access an IRQ address. I finally junked the drive because of the chipset. You could try uninstalling Nero using the clean tool and then re-installing.
     
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  16. brobear

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    InCD is batch writing software. Programs similar to it are included in other recording suites. Sonic's Roxio has Drag to Disc and Pinnacle has InstantWrite. These programs keep a constant connection with the optical drive and interferes with the recording of DVD videos. [bold]It has long been known that InCD needs to be removed to keep it from interfering with doing DVD backups. It can be removed using the ADD Remove Software option in the Control Panel. Nero continues to function without a problem.[/bold] The last download I did of Nero no longer had InCD. Roxio's Drag to Disc can sometimes be turned off. Others have to reported having to remove all of Roxio due to interference. [bold]Just be aware that batch writing software can be a serious problem when doing DVD backups.[/bold]
     
  17. brobear

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    256MB RAM? Low but it should work as long as not to much is already allocated to other tasks. When you start up the PC, certain programs automatically grab a segment of memory. To many programs do that and you have problems. Check the amount of RAM not allocated to see if you have enough for the recording software's usage. SiSoft Sandra Lite is freeware that does a good job of testing a system; do the memory module if you use it. Your Taskmanager will also give some insight into the memory situation.

    Arniebear is right, you do need more RAM. 512MB is the norm with many opting for 1GB when working with DVDs and video authoring software. I have 1GB and often consider getting more.
     
  18. dzuldare

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    thankfully the blue screens of death errors went away(i hope). i did a reg clean up. everything is working good. the thing about incd4 is that when i first got my dvd burner and put it in. each time i started up i got a blue screen of death. i took it out and when i booted up. the microsoft "send error report" poped up. so for the hell of it i hit send. so it accually brought me to there site and they said the problem was solved. they said i NEEDED incd4 for everything to work. so i downloaded it and installed it. i then installed my dvd burner and had no problems. now on the subject of ram. i think i saw somewhere on my journeys though my pc, that i had 59% accualated or something like that. i am downloading that sandra progam anyway at this moment. when burning dvds i allways make sure mostly all background programs are shut down. i allways just step back and don't touch a thing while burning. i have about a 8 out of 10 success rate for burning. i have a dell with a p4 2.8 ght. and a 80gig hd. when i look at task manger the cpu usage is right at 100% when burning. so if i get more ram does that mean that the usage will drop a bit and the computer won't strain so hard? what about stuff like encodeing dvds. will that go faster. ram is not really all that cheap and i want to see a difference in proformce if i get more. oh and dose ram really have anything to do with some of the blue screens of death? like the "page_fault_in_nonpaged_area". in my dell dimension 4600 manual it says :memory type "pc2700 (333-mhz) or pc3200 (400-mhz) ddr sdram (non-ecc)" so is that the only types i can use? i take it that they are 184pin.
     
  19. brobear

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    Run the Sandra test module on the board and CPU and it'll give you all the info you need for ordering RAM. Dell had their RAM on sale, so when I got mine I opted for 1GB.

    Transcoding or encoding is very CPU intensive, so extra RAM may not improve your time that much. However, on tasks that do require RAM, it definitely speeds things up. Plus with additional RAM you don't have to worry about shutting everything you can down all the time.

    You'll notice that doing a backup also has more than just transcoding involved. So, the overall process should take a little bit less time. One of our AfterDawn Addicts recently upgraded his RAM, on a Dell, and he's very pleased with the results. You can ask Bigorange what he thinks about RAM upgrades.

    I don't know if you've been paying attention, but the prices on RAM are down drastically compared to what they used to be. Considering the fact that RAM is one of the lowest cost affective upgrades you can do on a PC, I don't understand why more people don't upgrade when they have a system with minimal resources. Builders often skimp on RAM so they can keep costs lower, but that's not doing the consumer any real favors in the end.

    An analogy I was given for a working PC was that the CPU can be looked at as how large a bite of an apple can be taken and the RAM dictates how fast it can be chewed.

    BTW, one of the things I've noticed is that some DVD recording software gives a minimum requirement of 256 MB RAM. For those that give a preferred requirement, they often go to 512MB. So, RAM does make a difference. Your choice on the upgrades. You might want to check out some of the tech forums. You'll see they agree with what has been said here.
     
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