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Custody battle begins!!!

Discussion in 'Safety valve' started by saugmon, Oct 16, 2008.

  1. saugmon

    saugmon Senior member

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    She's getting desparate. The paper's I got surved yesterday are the papers that can allow her to not let me see kinzie for 4-6 yrs in case I didn't do anything. I'll have to get a hold ,my attorney today,,so she'll be able to tell the judge that that the accusations are totally false,and she filed it well after I had her served. She has no proof. She said I was harassing her everyday by telephone,but I got quite a few of those on tape. Every time I called her,was because I wanted to know when to pick kinzie up. Everything is documented for the last 6 months. I haven't called her in over 2 weeks. She leaves messages at work on when I am and not allowed to have kinzie.She's a total control freak,meanwhile -not wanting anything to do with her other 3 kids.She's pretty pathetic.
     
  2. blivetNC

    blivetNC Regular member

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    Sounds like my ex has another previously unknown sibling. But seriously, when pushed and cornered, she has started to panic and doesn't know what to do, unlike you, who is remaining calm, level-headed and keeps in mind all the advice given to you by your attorney. Keep the faith and stay the course, it'll work out in the end.
     
  3. varnull

    varnull Guest

    Yup.. your cool headed approach is sounding good. Most people would try to start "neglect" proceedings.. that's probably what she was hoping for.

    Will be interesting when the school reports on the other children come up.. which they probably will as she tries to prove her fitness to have custody.

    All in all.. theres a Manchester saying that fits here "Nicely Nicely" :)
     
  4. saugmon

    saugmon Senior member

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    She can't get me for neglect,but her husband can get her. Only times I called her was to when to pick up my daughter and always around 3 pm. She'd tell me yes,then when I arrive,,she wouldn't let me have her.That's when I'd chew her out,but her husband chews her out on a daily basis.

    She's getting desperate. My ex wife said there could be some other stuff that wasn't listed on her explanation for temp restraint order. I plan on not communicating with her,which has been well over a week and a half. I did go through my tape recordings and got her cussing me out,trying to sick her husband on me,and a bunch of bill collectors that she gave my number out.Also 6 months of notes that I kept track of since a few weeks before she moved out.

    Jerry Springer would kill to have my story,LOL!!!!! So would the movie studios.















     
  5. saugmon

    saugmon Senior member

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    Spent 1hr at the cpo hearing. The ex gf filed it on me because of name calling. The magistrate who did the hearing,was pretty funny. My attorney is also down to earth and very funny. I brought my 3 witness,who happened to be my mom,dad,and ex wife-so they could testify how I took care of kinzie rayne. I spoke 1 on 1 with my attorney and played her a tape of her cussing me out and threatening to sic her husband on me to beat me up. The attorney said she's a nutcase.

    Anywho,they dragged the ex gf onto the stand.The ex didn't have a lawyer there. My attorney and magistrate asked her a ton of questions,and showed how I had kinzie more that she did,then she cut me off. They also told her the severity of the CPO that she had slapped on me and she could care less. She had no evidence.My attorney asked her about her boyfriend threatening me and she said it only happened once.She asked what the ex thought about her bf's criminal record. She said it happenened before they got together.Then my attorney told her about his latest theft last month.Then asked how many times the police came to my house,if I abused,hit,and had her in danger. She said no. I didn't lay a finger on her.

    Her reason for the CPO: "He had guns and I didn't know what he was capable of."he also called me every day and called me names.

    Now my turn. My attorney tore her up a new one and didn't think I'd have to defend myself.The magistrate wanted to hear me and I answered all questions cool as a cucumber. Every time I called her,was to pick up kinzie or drop her off.She'd give some lame excuse so I couldn't get her.

    She asked me about how often I had kinzie,dates,times. You should have seen the expression on her face when I told the truth about how she really was.Especially when I told the magistrate that he threatened me 3 times. I didn't have to use the home video dvd or cassette recordings,so that'll be in my arsenal. I told my attorney that if she wanted a good chckle,to watch that 12 min dvd of the ex gf cussing her kids out while she's being very loveable to kinzie-which she is holding the entire time.

    CPO should be dropped very soon,then to get my guns out. She probably got it so the cops got my guns,her boyfriend can come over and do whatever because I'm defenseless,except for a couple of wild outside cats, LOL!!

    We still have a hell of a long ways to go,but the ex is making easier for me everyday.Wish me luck!!!
     
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    The very best of luck, thinking of you and from what I've been reading over the last while the sooner the better you get your daughter back.
     
  7. creaky

    creaky Moderator Staff Member

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    Just keep playing it cool..
     
  8. blivetNC

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    You don't need luck, just keep on doing what you're doing, stay the course buddy. (Good Luck though, you said you needed it but you're good)
     
  9. saugmon

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    If you all could have seen her facial expressions,huffing,,and her other childlike behavior,you would have laughed your butts off. I was treated like a criminal from the time I walked into the courthouse,to the time I left. I was nothing but nice to this girl for 3+ yrs and also shared my house with her 3 other kids. I paid all house payments,rent,utilities,car insurance,and purchased her 2 cars in that span. I even gave her the $600 to file for dissolution,which didn't happen. Did I see a dollar of the $550 of the returned disolution money=NO!! She will never have it that good for the rest of her life. She worked for a total of 9 months out of that 3.5 yrs. She filed taxes jointly with her husband during the whole time. No taxes were taken out of his check,so she bailed his ass out from paying $5000 back to the government every year.

    1 small fight is all we had. That fight wasn't even a fight.I told her like it was. She said we didn't do anything or go anywhere.I told with having kids every weekend,how can we. I also told her since I was footing the bill for everything,that I didn't have the money to do much. Bad winter,no overtime,and second mortgage just placed on house for my garage to be built. Here's some of the other things that I said that I tolerated:

    1) Her mother constantly calling everyday to borrow money. She pays me back one day,next day she borrows it again. Her mom works,stepdad draws SSI,plus he works under the table for $15 an hour.They drink and smoke up all their money. I was also her laundromat.She'd bring her laundry over twice a week so it would save a couple bucks to buy smokes. I could tell because the disrespected bit@@ would smoke in my house and I'd smell it when I got off from work.

    2)Her sisterinlaw constantly wanting to borrow money and have me cosign for stuff.

    3)Ex gf cussing her kids out every other weekend.Calling the F'in retards,F'ing idiots,F'ing stupid. I was not allowed to yell.According to her,anything over a whisper is yelling.

    4)Her kids tearing the hell out of my house

    5)Her kids not brushing their teeth,not sleeping in the own beds,but usually all over the floor. Kids staying up late.

    6)Her kids constantly knock down,drag out fights. One would be bawling before the car/truck would be pulled out of the driveway.Couldn't take them anywhere and very embarrasing.

    7) Her bringing friends home to stay the night,without warning me.Her kids also bringing their friends over,without warning me.

    8) Very little work out of her,but she wouldn't help clean house. I did my share,so I wouldn't help.

    9)She used my house to babysit 2 kids for $40 a week. That was a slap in my face. Everyday,dirty diapers laying on the floor,kitchen table,end table. I got many pics of them a week before she left.

    10) She quit cooking for us and her kids. If she cooked,it was hotdogs. Usually it was picking up fastfood.I did majority of cooking,all dishes,and all laundry.

    11) Housekeeping: I got on her constantly.She had piles of clothes everywhere. I kept all mine picked up,and hung up.She had mounds and I had them numbered 1-6. Some of these mound/blobs were 6 months old. 95# of those mounds were unwearable. By the time it took a week to go through,I found 10 prs of my underwear that wes engulfed. I was nice enough to deliver 3 truckloads of her crap to her house,which $95 was junk.

    That is just a short sample of what I had to put up for 3 yrs, and she didn't like it when I told her like it was. 1st fight,only fight,and she still wanted to make it look like it was all my fault. The guilt that I felt the 1st month she was gone. The sleepless nights I had worrying ab0ut her and the kids.She acts like I am a horrible monster.

    I don't have to put up with it anymore.
     
  10. blivetNC

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    Get a copy of "Freebird" by Lynyrd Skynyrd. Crank it up. LOUD.
    Worked for me on the way from the court house the last time.

    Stay the course, keep your cool. trust me it is going your way.
     
  11. saugmon

    saugmon Senior member

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    That's a great song bliv.

    No news today about getting that cpo dropped. Hopefully tomorrow.Nobody should have the power to slap someone with a CPO unless it's a deadly situation. Name calling and I don't know how he'll react doesn't cut it.

    Sucks driving 25 mins away to shop and run errands. At least gas is under $2 a gallon.
     
  12. saugmon

    saugmon Senior member

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    Latest update after we crucified her at the CPO hearing:

    I did recieve a paper 2 weeks ago from the magistrate. He saw no reason why there should be a CPO placed on my because of no actual violence or history of violence.

    I'm a lover and not a fighter, LOL!!!!!

    On his magesty's request,there was a 14 day wait for either party to appeal his decision. That lapses today and as of yesterday,the ex hasn't filed a bogus appeal. I won't know for sure til monday,but my attorney already pencil'd in a hearing at the courthouse for my temporary custody around Dec 9.My attorney think's the ex won't make that hearing,so they'll turn over temp custody to me.

    I'll have to have a motion filed to get my hunting rifles and shotgun back before the sherrif's dept sells them and keeps the money. Total BS when $3000 of guns and scopes are involved.

    She screwed me out of my time to take kinzie trick-or-treating and most likely thanksgiving,but hopefully I'll have her for christmas.

    Meanwhile,she has nothing to do with her other 3 kids and blowing kinzie's childsupport money for her cellphones,nails, hair,and bars.

    I'm still cool as cucumber.Watching hours of judge judy,judge joe brown,and people's court are helping, LOL!!! I'd like to see what Judge judy would do to her.

    I'm still pretty bummed about the situation,but hopefully the tide will turn in my favor. I'm also on vacation next week,so I can try to get Kinzie her social security #.Her worthless mother won't..

    BTW: They're eliminating 54 employees at my factory. No layoffs,but basically terminating their employment. The global econonomy is in serious shape,so hope all the other AD members are doing ok.

    Happy Thanksgiving to all!!!!
     
  13. garmoon

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    @saugmon

    Sounds good so far my friend. Christmas will be a wonderful time and now you have something to look forward to. I hope your job is not in jeopardy, you didn't really indicate definitely. Happy Thanksgiving and hang in there.
     
  14. ddp

    ddp Moderator Staff Member

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    gobble, gobble, gobble!!!!
     
  15. LOCOENG

    LOCOENG Moderator Staff Member

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    We knew you were a turkey ddp
     
  16. varnull

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    ^^^ LMFAO.. has he been drinking?
     
  17. ddp

    ddp Moderator Staff Member

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    nope as i don't drink.
     
  18. varnull

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    make sure you save me some of that acid then eh?
     
  19. ddp

    ddp Moderator Staff Member

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    i don't do drugs or smoke either.
     
  20. LOCOENG

    LOCOENG Moderator Staff Member

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    not anymore
     

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