I have been trying to rip Van Helsing onto my hdd but like some other dvds that I have tried I get the 'cyclical redundancy error'. The disk is brand new so there are no scratches, definitely not a bad disk issue. I have all the software programs that I know of including DVDRegion + CSS Free, AnyDVD4112, CloneDVD2, DVD Decrypter and DVD Shrink but nothing seems to work. I suspect it's the 'macrovision protection' on the dvd which I thought these programs were suppose to remove. Can someone out there help me with a definitive answer to this problem? Am I using the wrong tools?