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Dbox In Ireland

Discussion in 'Digital TV - United States & Canada' started by habcat, Oct 18, 2006.

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  1. Dsleeper

    Dsleeper Regular member

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    Yes but its manual. Which ones do you want?
     
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    I have a pace myself, can you tell me how to do it?

    I am thinking of just checking 1 or 2 to see if they match, e.g. rte1 or TV3, they usually give some trouble. The FTA channels are the only ones that totally freeze for me with gbox & blade. The group they are in did have a 5 in the frequency.
     
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    Power off the box, hold down the up and down buttons and power the box back on, keeping the two buttons pressed.

    This brings you into into the engineers menu.

    But... I think if you are watching a channel in the normal manner, you can just press the info button to get the frequency etc.
     
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    Hey folks,

    Just got a Sagem D-Box 2. 67 pages of stuff on this thread kinda hard to get the hang of all the various bits of advice.

    I have NTL Digital at home just looking for somepointers, got it connected up no prob but no channels at all, channel error etc coming up in screen etc
     
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    Gettin seriously technologly lost with talks of XML files and images etc, could be in over my head here me thinks,
     
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    read through...its worth it.
     
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    mate you should have read thoroughly before you bought it,anything you need to know is in this thread,finish it and you will know how to fix it.
     
  8. ruprect

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    I put on blade trinity V2, and it seemed OK. I got one or 2 stalls but it was while I was doing FTP stuff, rebooting etc.

    I put on the new services and it seemed OK. But when I checked the signal BER was 500-1000 on many, SIG 22000 SNR 62000. Channels that never changed frequency from my old one were BER 0-40 SIG 24000 SNR 64000.

    This was on a sagem 2x, I then manually changed the frequencies again, moving them up, to 363500000, was now 364000000, rather tahn 363000000.
    This brought the BER on them down to about 100.

    I put blade 3V2 on my 1x too and it seemed OK, it still has the frequencies that gave BER 1000 on the 2x, but it was BER 0-30 this morning.

    I will do more tests before posting or emailing it to anybody.

    If somebody is really missing the sports then I will email it but do not blame me if it is not perfect. Scans using CableUK sym6887 work best for me (ntl dublin).
    I have also made up my own cable provider, a trimmed down version of the UK one so it is a bit faster. Worked on my 1x, but keeps freezing half way on the 2x.

    What are the "flags" in the cables file for?
     
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    Yes it is all in here, and all worth reading. You could always pay somebody to come and do it, but if something is changed you need them out again, so best to buy the €5-10 cable yourself and learn it.
     
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    The flags are for enigma and dreambox.
    Simply use the latest irish cables.xml for scanning. You cannot change the frequencies which are in use with your tests.
     
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    If I do that I end up with lots of channels at BER 1000+, they still seem OK but I have not watched long enough.

    I cannot change the frequencies NTL broadcast at, but if I change my cables file or my services file I can get it to tune into the frequencies at a different one which lowers the BER. I rounded them all up to the nearest 5, e.g. 291, was 290, 368 was 370. some didnt work at all like this.

    I could not find the remote for my pace box, I will look again and see if it shows me what it the true frequency. Or could the pace box just pick up the first one it finds too?

    I made up a test cables file. it had every number scanning between the lowest and highest in the service. think it went from
    280000000
    281000000
    282000000
    .....
    ...
    39800000
    39900000
    40000000

    When I scanned with this it picked up all the channels, but it always went for the lower one, i.e. original 3555, would scan to 355, even though 356 would give a better BER rate.

    This was always my fear, it scans on the lower one, picks up a poor signal and goes with it, then doesnt even try 356 as it has it already. Or how does it work?

    Over at techno-source there is a recent enough cables.xml with the 3555 frequency. It is not one of mine, it could possibly be sadams with renamed channels, dont know what scan they were using.

    http://www.techno-source.co.uk/SMF2/index.php?topic=303.0
     
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    The real frequency is simply 355.500 mhz in your example.
    A BER with 1000 doesn't matter.
     
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    I still do not understand how you conclude that 355.5 is the real freqency. I understand it is what the dbox is tuned to, but NTL might be broadcasting differently

    In my current cables.xml I could never have 355.5 generated in the services file. If I edited the cable file I could change 355 to 355.5 and then it would be generated in services. If I changed 355 to 356 it would also generate it.
    But it seems if I had 355, 355.5 and 356 all in there that it will pick the first one it comes across- 355- even though 356 gives a lower BER, so I could be better only having 356 in my cables.xml.

    If you have any good links to info on all this stuff please let me know.
     
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    Hi all, I need some help. My sagem dbox is freezing really bad, I have to turn it off and on again to get it working. It used to freeze but not as bad as it is now, maybe 3 times every half hour. I am using the sportster 1.7 image. any help is grately appreciated.
     
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    @ruprect
    Maybe you should use a nokia for checking the real frequencies.
     
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    I do not understand what you mean by "real frequencies"

    If NTL broadcast at 355.123456 then the closest my cables file can get is 355.0

    If I edited the cables to have 355.0 and 355.123456 then I still think it will generate 355.0 in the service file, just because it is first.

    My nokias and sagems use the same cables.xml and so generate identical service.xml files too. I cannot see how the nokia would help.

    I could only imagine the pace could be of help. Do providers send frequency details to the box, or does it do a similar scan like a dbox and pick the first one it works well on?

    I figure the nokias have better tuners so cope with a poorly selected frequency better. I feel if my sagem was at the properly broadcasted frequency it would be perfect.

    On digitalworldz many are reporting perfect results in the UK when using blade with gbox, these people had sagems that were chirping very badly.
     
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    Hi Folks, I know a lot of you will be p off with this but there are over 68 pages which dont answser to my problem:
    Im in Dublin, NTel, I got my Dbox 2 sagem with sportster on it 1.18, I keep scanning bruteforce but when it starts, the scanning never seem to stop it goes on and on, I stopped after an hour.
    What do I need to do?
    To connect to the box what exactly do I enter in FlashFXP? an IP address? Which one exactly?
    txs in advance

    eddub
     
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    You have to define the IP's by yourself.
    Give the network card connected to the box a fixed IP 192.168.0.1 and the box in the network menue 192.168.0.23 for instance.
     
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