I have never said that Bear - I do contend that like everything else in the world, companies make different qualities of that product that they produce. For instance, Radio Shack makes 3 or 4 levels of VHS and DVD players. RCA does the same as does any one of the US or other auto manufacturers. Some are made by them i.e. Dodge makes their Viper BUT their Dodge Colt is made by Mitsubishi. Mitsubishi makes an excellent auto on their own BUT when they produced the Colt, made to Dodge's specifications, it SUCKED in the biggest of ways. I know because I was dumb enough to purchase one. When discs are made to meet Verbatim's specs and are "branded” as "Advanced Metal AZO" and their straight “branded” Verbatim they are an excellent disc as is the same with Datalife. Ridata could be made by George Washington Jr., but it's made to specs they are given. Quality control may be worse in one company than another and when that happens, they aren’t likely to win those big named contracts because the contracts are given to those who meet certain standards. “AZO” indicates a certain dye and an application of the same. - Now that Verbatim has released its rights to the name, anyone can make that disc that pays for it. Mitsubishi may well be the manufacture of Verbatim's discs but (yes, again that "But" word) it was made to standards given them by Verbatim. "Google" "Advanced Metal AZO" and you'll be taken to Verbatim's site. (Sorry I'm wandering again) AZO is currently being "touted" by a whole mess of manufacturers. Although the AZO dye is being used, and the appliacation standards are being met, the product, meaning the composite disc that it's applied too varies in quality. Not all discs are created equal. Those of inferior material do, in fact, chip at the edges and don't allow the dye to adhere as well as better quality disc. I've always said that one could "Feel the difference." Hold a “Great AZO” disc, made by 8 different companies, in 10 different plants, remember I said that different contracts are up for bid for the different products, some plants make the 25-cake box, and others make the bulk ? Well all these companies, all unknown by the way, manufacture “Great AZO” (as we discussed, a pretty good dye and application process, especially when made for Verbatim) and trust me on this, these discs are nothing at all when compared with the "Metal AZO" made by Verbatim. I've compared the 2 and you can literally "Feel" the difference. Same dye and application, it has to be to meet the specs, but an entirely different composite disc. There are companies like Ricoh that make excellent media but they also make some crap to specs for companies that order it. From lighting fixtures to paints, from cars to mink coats and from MP3 players to PC's (I love the latest, $499.99 for the PC, monitor and printer from Dell) there is a difference to what a company makes. High end to crap, the name stays the same, the manufacturer may even change, but things are made to specs. Sears and Wal-Mart are 2 fantastic examples, I should have thought of them before – They have made their reputation of ordering things made to their specs in extremely large quantities. When the plant they are ordering them from invests in the equipment to fill the order, the next order is withheld until the unit costs drop so, that a much higher profit margin is realized for the store OR the manufacturer goes “belly-up.” Yes, guess who buys the bankrupt company at a rock-bottom dollar. Everything is about specs and specialization – it’s what makes the world go around. The weekend has yet to arrive so haven't translated your site yet – Looking forward to it “P”
Like you Pete, I'm tired and I'll read your long post later. However, if you want to speak to the resident expert on media it will have to be someone other than me. I relinquished the crown you gave me to Londor. I was merely supplying some data I thought to be useful. Londor told me how wrong I was and proclaimed himself expert. ) Have a good weekend Pete. P.S. A lot of folks like to tell me I'm wrong. Guess that honorary crown you gave me was of brambles. That would have been Verbatim and Ritek, following this statement by me. CMC, Ricoh, Mitsubishi, Taiyo Yuden A disparity between MCC and CMC. I guess I wrongly assumed since you buy the -R Ritek that you would buy the -R Verbatim which is the format CMC produces for Verbatim. One shouldn't assume. I have a flogging coming and I have lost my crown to Londor. In the end I guess if Londor is correct, that just furthers what I said. I thanked him for his support. ;/ Good night Londor... _X_X_X_X_X_[small][bold]'brobear'[/bold] [bold]Et tu, Brute![/bold][/small]
