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DVD-RB and AutoQMatEnc

Discussion in 'DVD / BD-Rebuilder forum' started by ebega, May 16, 2006.

  1. pazzini

    pazzini Guest

    For me Procoder2 produces the better result.
     
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  2. Mort81

    Mort81 Senior member

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    they both make poor ole clone look pretty sad. i would probably pick procoder of the liter too.
     
  3. arniebear

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    That Clone pic is nasty, glad I did not use it on this movie. Definitely shows the difference, good example of how good RB is, as if those of us who use it haven't noticed. I think I will stick with CCE though as it is faster, but the procoder2 looks pretty good.
     
  4. ebega

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    @pazzini

    Sorry I never got back to you about including transcoders, just haven't had any time to include them lately. Very nice job on the comparison though, very helpful, and helps to justify the extra time that encoders take. Clone, Shrink, and Recode, while great programs, just cannot compare to encoders
     
  5. pazzini

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    Hi arniebear poor clonedvd2 did'nt stand a chance and as you can see it did not do very well, especially with my transcoder tests. I use to use just clonedvd2 for all my backups till I found dvd-rebuilder pro. I now do movies like this Clonedvd2 100% compression so no transcoder is needed, movies with compression of up to 85% gets Recode2 and everything else goes through Rebuilder pro with Procoder 2 or CCE depending on the movie.

    We all know how much you like CCE but give us some more time and we may convert you yet to the wonders of procoder 2.

    Hey ebega thats cool I know what it's like not having much spare time.

    Thanks for the positive feedback I just wish I could of gone into more detail, but like you there does not seem to be enough hours in the day to get everything done.

    alright Mort81 when ever I go to Encode a movie I always seem to pick procoder 2 I really do believe it gives the better picture not by much mind you but still better.
     
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  6. Mort81

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    pazzini,

    how much is procoder 2? like $59?
     
  7. pazzini

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    Hi Mort :) procoder 2 will cost you about $500 or £350-400.

    The express version will cost you about $60? The express version though is not very good by what I have read over at the doom9 forums.
     
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  8. ebega

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    Ok guys, I couldn't sleep last night so I figured I would play around with some transcoders. I tested Recode, DVD Shrink, Shrinkto5, DVD2one, and CloneDVD2. All previous comparison pages have been updated. Enjoy :)
     
  9. arniebear

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    Wow, ebega what a job. Actually, on the pic of Gandolf among the transcoders Shrinkto5 and DVD2one look the best, the others had some artifacts going on. This is one thread that other posters should look at to see the comparison. I have already recommended it once in a post today. I will definitely keep on telling people to take a look so they can see the difference for themselves. Good job to both you and pazzini for these comparisons. I am still a CCE person at heart, but if someone wants to offer ProCoder for the cheap then I will give a try :)
     
  10. pazzini

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    Great work ebega, excelent job :)

    I have added 2 more transcoders Nero recode2 and 1Click dvd copy pro. I added these because alot of people use Recode2 and 1click pro. If people want to see how DVDShrink came out let me know and I wil post a pic. I did'nt add shrink because it has a similar outcome to Recode2.

    EDIT: Recode2 is the clear winner for me out of the transcoders.
     
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  11. arniebear

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    @pazzini

    I think the Recode came out the best of the transcoders using the quality enhancements. I did this movie using Recode and the exact same settings you did and it looked pretty good on my 52 inch, of course not quite as good as RB but for a transcoding program it is good and as you said the quality will be the same as Shrink. The drawback with Shrink is that it is slower. Maybe if the comparisons keep up the thread will get a sticky as these are really great. Both you and ebega are to be complimented. I thank you as it is nice to see the difference. Posters are always asking, so here is the visual proof on what the programs can do, and how they handle the high compression. From what I see the default of Sharp for these higher compressed movies is just not that good.
     
  12. pazzini

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    Thanks arniebear but ebega deserves the credit he has done a superb job with his comparisons.

    I agree with you that max smooth is better than sharp, yes it take longer but you do notice the difference.

    If there is a movie that people would like me to do just name the film and I will see if I have it and I will gladly do it for you :)
     
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  13. pazzini

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    Hi all :)

    This film is Saving private ryan (full disc) the compression level for all encoders is 47.4% (52.6%) Bitrates: 3,386/1,962/2,394

    Encoders used Procoder2, CCE, HC18

    Settings:

    Procoder2 Mastering quality
    CCE all default apart from 3 passes
    HC18 Best

    Original
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    CCE
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    Procoder2
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    HC18
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    Clonedvd2
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    Shrink
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    1Click DVD copy pro
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    1Click
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  14. pazzini

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    Original
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    CCE
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    Procoder2
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    HC18
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    Clonedvd2
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    Shrink
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    1Click dvd copy pro
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    1Click
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  15. arniebear

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    Good pics, movie looks fantastic could not really tell the difference. I give procoder a minute edge but they all look equal, which to me looks perfect. Thanks again for the comparisons :)
     
  16. pazzini

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    Original
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    CCE
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    Procoder2
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    HC18
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    Clonedvd2
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    Shrink
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    1Click dvd copy pro
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    1click
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    Original
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    CCE
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    Procoder2
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    HC18
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    Clonedvd2
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    Shrink
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    1Clickdvdcopy pro
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    1click
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    Times:

    CCE 248 min
    Procoder2 320min
    HC18 388 min
     
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  17. pazzini

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    Procoder2 is the clear winner for me.

    Hc18 comes in second place

    CCE third place

    Tell me what you guys think :)
     
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  18. arniebear

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    I will go with your picks, although CCE is probably the faster which I wonder if that has anything to do with how they stack up. But they all are very close, and there is very little difference from the original, considering the massive compression on this.
     
  19. pazzini

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    Hi arniebear :)

    Yes CCE was faster the times are a couple of posts up but I will put them here aswell :)

    CCE 248 minutes
    Procoder2 320 minutes
    HC18 388 minutes

    Like you say with the amount of compression that was needed the Encoders tested have done a superb job.

    If you like I can add some transcoders like clonedvd2, Recode2, 1click dvd copy pro to see how they handle the massive amount of compression. If people would like me to do this just ask :)

     
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  20. arniebear

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    Well I would like to see it, but don't want to put you to any trouble. Would like to see the Clone output consering it does not have any advanced analysis or AEC.
     

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