DVD-RB and AutoQMatEnc

Not a problem at all, I will do clonedvd2 first and post the pics up very soon

 

Nice job pazzini. I agree with the order you think is best quality wise but I think I still have to go with cce only due to speed. I don't mind sacrificing time for quality but there's got to be a limit and I can't see where all the extra time for procoder or hc is that benefitial. They're all very close.

While you're at it, if you don't mind, throw one in done with dvd shrink (max smooth). I never use shrink anymore but would like to see how it compares. There's still a lot of gung ho shrink believers out there.

 

I have added the clonedvd2 images, even though the pictures dont look to bad it is quite the opposite when viewing the movie on my 52" HDTV.

51% (49%) compression

Hi mort I will add the shrink pictures for you very soon

 

I don't know that Clone one looks pretty nasty when compared to the encoders, got some artifacts in the faces. Tom's lip don't look too good

 

Hi pazzini,

Yuk, clone is awful. Major tiling. And I thought it was better than shrink. You may have to include a couple of shrink with no AEC.

Even toms chin and lips tiled a little with hc.

 

@Mort

I see we saw the same things at the same time, lol. Yeah, I saw the tiling in HC, but overall it is still better. Since I am loathe to give up my CCE I stick with this one.

 

I hear ya Pete. I don't use anything besides rb/cce anymore unless I run into a strange problem with it. I've had a couple backups out of about 100 that would not play on my set top player for some reason but funny thing is they would play on my neighbors. I ran those through clone (movie only) and they played ok on mine. Very rare indeed and it hasn't happened for a long time.

Depending on the results from pazzini, if it happens again I might have to use shrink or recode as opposed to clone. I don't foresee it hapening again though.

 

I will use Clone for some of the series I want to split, so there is no compression. But mainly I stick with Recode, everything comes out really well with it. It is the same as Shrink, just faster. Shrink is easier to get at the AEC settings, with Recode you got to change them in the registry, a drawback to me. Also, what I do like about Shrink though is that you can just rip a movie only with Decrypter and Shrink will open it and then create the missing BUP file for you, Nero and Clone spit on these files, saying the BUP is missing so they won't open.

Did you guys check out the new ripper in town, RipIt4Me. Seems to put old DVDD back in business. I would like to try it out, but got a problem, my router is blocking the dl site so I need someone to email it to me. Tried but DD puts out so many popups my tray is full, now got to do a spyware clean, and whatever site they are using for dl just can't get by, so I am in limbo.

 

You guys are correct after looking at them more closely clonedvd2 does not look good at all. I did not have a proper look before as I looked at them while uploading them.

I still only use clonedvd2 when no compression is needed (transcoder disabled) I use Recode2 at 80% (20%) compresson, everything else goes through Rebuilder with Procoder2.

 

Clone is good for a movie that only needs minor compression, it shines in reauthoring when you want to split and keep menus, but for higher compressed stuff it is not that good. Shrink will beat it out any day. The program may be old but it still works well. And of course we know that RB is the best, but too many do not want to invest the time in it, which is a shame. If you want to have backups that look good years from now then use RB. I don't like it as much for old black and white movies, I think it does not make them crisp enough, but that is just personal preference. Some of those old movies have not been taken care of too well.

 

Shrink has now been added.

51% (49%) compression

settings deep analysis, AEC max smooth

Enjoy

 

Thanks for adding Shrink, it looks about equal to HC judging by Tom's chin. Way better than Clone, but not as good as CCE and Procoder. These comparisons are really great.

 

Thanks pazzini. I agree with arniebear. Do you by chance know how long shrink took?

 

Hi

Clonedvd2 took 18 minutes while Shrink took 1 hour 10 minutes approx

1Click and 1Click Pro have been added by request of LP531

1Click dvd copy pro has been added it took 30 minutes same compression as Shrink and Clonedvd2.

1click has now been added it took 25 minutes compression same as the rest.

 

The 1click does not look bad, better than Clone but not quite as good as Shrink. But it is very close to Shrink and less time involved. In the transcoder dept I would rate Shrink first, then 1click and Clone is at the bottom. For encoders Procoder looks the best, then I will go with CCE, although I think they are pretty equal, and HC last, by virtue of the tiling in Tom's chin and lips.

 

After looking at them for some time this is the order I would put them in.

1st Shrink
2nd 1Click dvd copy pro
3rd 1Click
4th Clonedvd2

 

Well I think this is a good job, and I have posted on two threads if members want to see comparisons to come have a look, I hope they do. Again thanks pazzini for doing this

Now I am off to my RipIt4Me guide since this programs seems to be getting dissed and I think it is worth a look at it.

 

wow! i just finished reading this whole thread. my two cents. if one day i get myself a better and faster computer, i wouldn't use anything else but Rebuilder/procoder, but this is not the case, my computer is very slow and rebuilder/HC takes wayyy tooo much time(9 hours sometimes)so i stopped using is. so, there are three software installed in my PC. in order of qualityl, i use them all.
1-Recode2, one comment. WOW. great quality
2- shrink, much slower than recode2 but still pretty closed to quality to recode2.
3- dvd2one 152. this little old program is the fastest transcoder there is, and handles high levels of compression "almost" as good as shrink and recode2.
ps: if i have plenty of time, shrink it is.
if i don't have that much time, recode2.
and if i have very little time and still want good picture quality, dvd2one 152 is just it.

 

@pazini

Do you mean viewing the actual transcoded compressed video on your TV looks worse than the still image?

The value of comparing still images from various compressed video streams has been raised before. Even if the basics are covered such as ensuring the same I frame is compared it would be quite interesting if a few seconds clip of the various test results could be made available for a real world comparision.

Also, it would be a good idea if a few scenes and their start/end frames could be agreed upon to enable a more standardized approach to testing and comparing the various tests.

 

windtrade,

Take our word for it, the video quality using dvd-rb with cce or hc (I don't have procoder yet) will be better than the video quality of any transcoding software, especially when compression is over 30%. I also have a 52" hdtv.