This is really starting to annoy me (not you - the CCE's problem). I'm sure I wouldn't notice it on my TV, and maybe not on a friend's 56" widescreen (SDTV), but I'm equally sure it would stick out on another friend's HDTV. I may have to run my ROTK through DVD-RB just to see how the NTSC version comes out. I've already verified that the original has similar noise to the PAL version, but I don't think it's quite as bad. As much as I hate to say this, we may just be seeing that unless you can figure out the right combination of AviSynth filters (and that may take a real AviSynth expert), some poorly encoded sources (with the encoding artifacts in the original at a lower than optimal bitrate I have to consider it poorly encoded) DVD Shrink may be better in areas with artifacts. I'll get back to you later when I have some more time to work on it.