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Discussion in 'Windows - Software discussion' started by floss313, Dec 14, 2006.

  1. floss313

    floss313 Regular member

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    I have a NEC 6500RW DVD writer. I don't have any problems burning -R and +R with Nero but when i tried +RW disc it did nothing nor could it format it. Any suggestions?
     
  2. bkf

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    Firmware of the burner up to date and what brand of RW disc are they. +RW is on the edge of being usless. I only get a max of 5 burns before the errors cause me to throw it away.
     
  3. floss313

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    Well, i also tried it in a new laptop (my mates') and it did the same. And surely his firmware is up to date, i hope.
     
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    Sorry, the disks i use are ritek and they are pretty decent, i heard.
     
  5. bkf

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    Floss: Get this free program and run it to find the media ID. Ritek makes discs for something like 22 others and there are a bunch of fakes out there to. Quality runs from ok to landfill use only.

    http://dvd.identifier.cdfreaks.com/

    Maybe the mods can move this to one of the media forums and we can talk about it in length. Your mate not being able to write to one is not a good sign of quality media. +rw media is spotty at best. Not something you want to use to keep important things for any length of time. I have extensive experience with burning discs and I think we can sort this out but it likley the madia or a brand of burner that just don't like it.

    Mods please move to correct forum
     
  6. floss313

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    Thanks man. i'll check it out.
     
  7. floss313

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    Allright mate. I installed it and here is what it says:

    Disc&book type: dvd+rw - not available
    Manufacturer name: Ritek corp
    Manufacturer id:RITEK
    Media type id:008
    Product revision: Not specified
    Blank disc capacity: 2,295,104 sectors = 4.70 gb (4.38gb)
    Recordind speeds: 3.3x-8x

    Additional information
    Status


    [17:51:12] DVD Identifier V5.0.1
    [17:51:12] Initializing Drive Interface [Auto-Select ASPI/SPTI]
    [17:51:12] SPTI Drive Interface Successfully Initialized
    [17:51:13] 1 Supported Drive Found (Out Of 1 Available Drive)
    [17:51:13] Manufacturer Database [08-OCT-06@727$93] Loaded From File : (@727$93) Entries Found
    [17:51:21] This Version Of 'DVD Identifier' Is Up-To-Date
    [17:51:21] The Manufacturer Database Is Up-To-Date
    [17:51:51] DVD+R/+RW Medium Detected. Starting Identification...
    [17:51:51] ** Initiating ADIP Retrieval Method 1 (Original ADIP)
    [17:51:51] ADIP Read Method 1 Completed Without Errors
    [17:51:51] Disc Identification Completed Successfully
    [17:52:34] DVD+R/+RW Medium Information Copied To Clipboard
    [18:02:05] DVD+R/+RW Medium Information Copied To Clipboard


    Drive capabilities on this disc


    ** INFO : Drive = _NEC DVD+-RW ND-6500A - [FW 2.24] - [ATAPI]
    ** INFO : Write Capabilities = DVD+R DVD+R-DL DVD+RW
    ** INFO : Write Capabilities = DVD-R DVD-RW
    ** INFO : Disc = [DVD+RW:RITEK-008-000]
    ** INFO : Reference Speed : 1x DVD = 1385 kBps
    ** INFO : An Writeable Disc Is Recommended For Accurate Results
    ** INFO : Write Speeds (Supported By This Drive On This Disc) Listed Below

    ** INFO : GET PERFORMANCE Write Speed Descriptor(s)
    ** WARNING : Drive Did Not Report Any Write Speed Descriptors

    ** INFO : MODE SENSE Write Speed Descriptor(s) [Legacy Command]
    ** WARNING : MODE SENSE Is Obsolete And Not Always Properly Supported
    Descriptor #1 = 4234 kBps ( 3.06x) - [Pure CAV]
    Descriptor #2 = 2822 kBps ( 2.04x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]
    Descriptor #3 = 1764 kBps ( 1.27x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]
    Descriptor #4 = 1411 kBps ( 1.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]
    Descriptor #5 = 706 kBps ( 0.51x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]


    Media code -Block...


    ** INFO : Hex Dump Of 'Media Code'-Block Listed Below
    ** INFO : 4-Byte Header Preceding 'Media Code'-Block Discarded
    ** INFO : Format 11h (Method 1) - ADIP Information
    0000 : 93 0f 04 00 00 03 00 00 00 26 05 3f 00 00 00 00 .........&.?....
    0010 : 00 00 03 52 49 54 45 4b 00 00 00 30 30 38 00 20 ...RITEK...008.
    0020 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
    0030 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
    0040 : 02 00 01 2e 70 54 00 5a 86 4a 03 30 00 52 a3 2c ....pT.Z.J.0.R.,
    0050 : 03 2c 00 55 9e 22 03 2c 00 00 04 0a 09 00 00 00 .,.U.".,........
    0060 : 82 00 04 04 00 ff 00 ff 01 ef ef ee 10 0f 02 01 ................
    0070 : 02 01 02 03 02 05 10 0b 02 01 02 01 00 05 05 08 ................
    0080 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
    0090 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
    00a0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
    00b0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
    00c0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
    00d0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
    00e0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
    00f0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........



    One question:

    I copied the information to clipboard. How da i access it?
     
  8. bkf

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    Just take the clipboard and copy it to an empty text file. Let me check out that media code 008.

    Is it one of these 3 brands?
    http://www.videohelp.com/dvdmedia.p...rder=Name&hits=50&search=Search+or+List+Media

    If you read the comments NEC drives don't like this media. Go get yourself a 0ne pack of some other brand and try that. Something like sony or Verbatim. I don't have a Ritek disc here to try but I do have a couple of Benq burners so it should work here. You might have got a bad batch. The 008 codes look rather marginal at best. Ill check you firmware revision next.

    Ok Firmware version 2.24 (what you have) is the latest so your ok there. Try a single different brand disc. Nec's can be fussy but they are good burners. Keep me informed
     
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    Thanks for your help man!
     
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    It's the second media - RiData

    Cheers
     
  11. bkf

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    One of the worst :-(

    Im going to download version 2.24 and run it through Media speed code edit to see where those stack up if even supported. It might be a generic supported disc. Go buy your self a disc tomorrow. Let me know.

    And no worries I like to help
     
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    BKF massive apologies. I had to leave for next sides and the situation did not allow me to post this message earlier. Sorry man.
     
  13. bkf

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    No problem. Let us know when you try another brand +RW disc.
    My Benq's like -RW discs better but they are very slow.


    Edit:
    I did run your 2.24 firmware through Media speed code edit. Ritek 008 is not supported which means the burner would be using some generic write sceme. Here is a list of +RW that it does support.

    DVD+RW supported media types: 26
    ------------------------------------------
    CMC MAG W01 2.4x
    CMC MAG W01 2.4x
    CMC MAG W02 4x,2.4x
    DAXON D42 2.4x
    INFODISC A01 2.4x
    INFODISC A10 4x,2.4x
    MBIPG101 W03 2.4x
    MBIPG101 W04 4x,2.4x
    MCC A01 2.4x
    MKM A02 4x,2.4x
    NANYA DRW 2.4x
    NANYASC DRW 2.4x
    OPTODISC OP1 2.4x
    OPTODISC OP4 2.4x
    PHILIPS 010 2.4x
    PHILIPS 041 4x,2.4x
    PRODISC W01 2.4x
    PRODISC W02 4x,2.4x
    RICOHJPN W01 2.4x
    RICOHJPN W11 4x,2.4x
    RITEK 001 2.4x
    RITEK 004 4x,2.4x
    SENTINEL W01 2.4x
    SENTINEL W02 2.4x
    SONY S11 4x,2.4x
    TDK t01 2.4x
     
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    Cheers man!
     

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