well, actually, the disc doesn't work in my DVD-ROM at all. Audiocatalyst shows the disc as all data tracks when using the DVD drive. I also copied it direct to a CD-RW(by using disc-swapping in my CD-RW) using Nero and it worked great. It even copied the copy protection session and everything. I then tried copying just the audio tracks and that worked flawlessly. If there are drives that can rip the CD just fine like mine, what is the point of this "copy protection"? All it takes is one person, just one, to make mp3s and then get them on Kazaa or Mirc or whatever you want to use and the whole world can get the tracks for free. What exactly are they preventing?