Experiencing Difficulty Using DVD RB and CCE? If So, Then Ask Your Questions Here.

@Soph

I didn't receive an e-mail at all when registering at the doom9 forums, this is the 2nd time I tried in the past 2 months. 2 e-mail addys banned. ;-(

@jdobbs

This is disc one the feature disc, it has about 5-6 ILV sections altogether on the DVD I believe. I was browsing it with Vob Blanker, hoping I can actually edit out the different angles and make it easier on DVD-RB. The dvd structure is much more complicated than I had realized, been doing lots of reading on pgc edit, vob blanker and ifo editor. I'm hoping it has something to do with this as I'll be examing the encoded DVD itself to see if any of what is described below shows up. This bit of info taken from Pgcedit website.

"There can be gaps on a DVD. The most notable ones are those used to ensure that no ECC block contains any portion of an IFO file and its associated BUP file. Since ECC blocks are 16 sectors long (32K), the easiest way to accomplish this is to ensure that there are 16 sectors between the end of the IFO and the start of the BUP. With VIDEO_TS.VOB or VTS_xx_0.VOB files less that 32K (or absent) this means using a gap.



Burning programs handle this in one of three ways, two of which are correct.

· They can honour the authoring program's layout and place the data on the disk according to the pointers in the IFO files.

· They can make their own layout decisions and alter the pointers accordingly.

· They (notably Nero, at least in several past versions) pack the data as closely as possible and ignore the pointers."

I'm beginning to wonder if my burner is also at fault, it seems there is another problem on the DVD which is a freeze on 1:36:00. The freeze has also happened on movie only mode with DVD-RB 93.2, which shouldn't be happening at all because movie only mode is probably your safest bet on a secure backup. This also occured in full disc mode only blanking out the extras. My best guess is that during 1:32-1:36 it switches layers and my burner is handling it wrong. -_- There have been a few minor problems with my DVDs lately anywho I'll post my DVD info provided by DVD Identifier. Last time I purchase a 100-stack of DVD+Rs.

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I have a question. I have CCE SP 2.67, EclCCE, and RBv0.93. I set RB at 2 pass but for some reason during encoding, it is only doing 1 pass. What could be the problem?

Thanks.

 

sghrush


That's normal it always does that, you're two passes are working.

 

@HKT3020

"There can be gaps on a DVD. The most notable ones are those used to ensure that no ECC block contains any portion of an IFO file and its associated BUP file. Since ECC blocks are 16 sectors long (32K), the easiest way to accomplish this is to ensure that there are 16 sectors between the end of the IFO and the start of the BUP. With VIDEO_TS.VOB or VTS_xx_0.VOB files less that 32K (or absent) this means using a gap."

The only time this ever happens is when there is a disc that has no spacing between the IFO and the BUP -- and that is very rare. The VOBs for any VTS are placed between those files.

The reason it becomes important in DVD-R burning is that people now generate movie-only DVDs and leave no spacing between the VIDEO_TS.IFO and VIDEO_TS.BUP. DVD-RB does the padding as necessary when it outputs to an ISO image (many packages don't!! I won't mention one very popular one). It is done so that a single scratch that affects one ECC doesn't cause both the IFO and it's backup (BUP) to become bad.

ILVU can get very complex indeed if you try to navigate it at the binary level... you will get a few sectors of one cell, followed by a few sectors of another, maybe a third, and then another piece of the first one.

 

I thought RB is supposed to shrink a DVD 9 to a DVD 5? After using RB for "Dawn of the Dead", Decrypter states the files are too large for a DVD 5 (almost 8 GB). What could be the problem?

 

sghrush

After the encode is completed there are unneeded files still left in the folder. Go to the folder where your movie is and open it and you should see 3 folders inside of it(D2VAVS, Audio_TS, and Video_TS). Delete the D2VAVS folder and keep the Audio_TS folder (which is empty) and the Video_TS folder which contains your completed movie.

 

@Jdobbs

"ILVU can get very complex indeed if you try to navigate it at the binary level... you will get a few sectors of one cell, followed by a few sectors of another, maybe a third, and then another piece of the first one."

Yes that is what happened, I knew it wouldn't be that easy so I have resorted to another method. What I'll be doing is ripping the Decrypted Backup with DVD Shrink using movie mode only. Then I'll replace the main movie VTS with the movie only in Vob Blanker and have it process it for me. Hopefully this will work as I am seeing 3 versions of the film in Shrink labeled as Angle 1, Angle 2 & Angle 3. Once that is done I'll just run it through DVD-RB with no extra modes enabled (movie only, movie & menu etc.) and will see if it was successful. I'll be sure to playback the DVD entirely before actually burning it this time. By the way you say when DVD-RB outputs it to ISO it does all the necessary padding on its own so does this mean that there can still be a few errors (on a edited DVD meaning with blanks & stills) if its output as files?

 

I want to encode a DVD in DVD-Rebuilder Pro 0.93.2b, but I'm very unsure about some of the settings. I'm using the Mode called "Movie and Menus Only (Blank Extras)" I'm using CCE SP and encoding at VBR_Passes 6. I'm only encoding PAL movies. I've tried to read a lot of posts and tutorials but I have problems finding some very short and specified answers. Hope you can help me.

[bold]Questions:

1.
If I want to create a fixed DVD-size should I then add "CCETargetSectors" or just "TargetSectors" to the .ini file?

2.
If I want a target DVD-size of 4,36 GB what should the "CCETargetSectors/TargetSectors" size be?

3.
Should AudioDub(BlankClip()) be turned ON or OFF?

4.
Should I use Disable "Interlaced" -> Apply To All?

5.
The default settings for VBR_Bias is 25 and Quality Prec is 16. Are these settings good or should I change them to something else?

6.
Are there any other settings that I should apply or change?[/bold]


[bold]Thanks alot for your help. )[/bold]


P.S. YES I have read these tutorials aswell:

High Quality DVD-9 Backups With DVD Rebuilder & CCE Basic
DVD Rebuilder Advanced Techniques

 

@Slipnikz

Addressing your questions:

1. TargetSectors applies to all encoders. CCETargetSectors will change the target for CCE but not affect any other encoders.

2. I would recommend you leave the TargetSize at the default. Encoders can be inaccurate and the default size will give you 4.32-4.33GB... but if you hit a movie that is high-action and many small segments (which can make hitting the target more difficult for the encoder) it will still stay under 4.37GB. You don't want to go over -- as it will force you to reencode completely. In addition, using the default keeps you out of trouble on the less-than-reliable outer surfaces sometimes seen on low-cost discs.

3. AudioDub(BlankClip()) actually makes no difference one way or another on most systems. It is there specifically to counter an bug in some early versions of CCE that would cause it to bomb out with AMD processors on video that had no audio.

4. No. Definitely not. There are a small number (very small) of poorly authored PAL discs that are flagged as interlaced but are actually progressive. That is meant to be used to force those discs back to progressive.

5. Those settings are best for almost all encodes. People who use CCE a lot, however, can sometimes squeeze a little better quality out of very long hard-to-encode movies by adjust these a little.

6. I've tried to balance DVD-RB so that it can be used by everyone -- but allow access to the settings that experts like to tweak. For most users the default settings will give you great results every time.

 

Hi all,

This question may have already been addressed and if so I apoligize. I am trying to open my personalized copy of DVD-RB Pro v1.00 RC1 and when I try to open it it says failed startup, REBUILDER.RBK is not present in the DVD-RB directory. I did copy my registration entries into this folder but that made no difference. Thanks for any help or suggestions.

 

mort

I had a similar problem and so I downloaded the registry file again, placed in the folder and then for good measure rebooted and it worked.

 

The only way you can get that message is if the file "REBUILDER.RBK" is not in the same directory with REBUILDER.EXE. Any other scenario (like the wrong e-mail address, or the wrong RBK file) will give a different message.

 

Sorry for the silly question but where do I go to redownload the registry file? I had been copying it from old versions to newer versions previously without any problems. I double checked and the registry shows to be in the same directory. I'll try a reboot in the meantime. Thanks guys.

 

It was included at the bottom of the email that jdobbs sent you, if you deleted the email check in trash to see if it's still there.

 

Got it. Thanks Sophocles and jdobbs. Looks quite a bit different. I'll give it a go later and probably have some more questions. Thanks again gents.

 

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jdobbs


Aw! Can't we see what you deleted. LOL

 

I was saying pretty much the same thing as you Sophocles -- no sense in repeating it.

 

I told you I would have more questions. Can I select the same folder for destination and work path or should I make a new folder for the work path somewhere else? Thanks.

 

Mort

I recommend that you use separate folders for both but they can be in the same area. Such as C:\source and C:\work.